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Formal Request Thread
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Re: Formal Request Thread
by NeoAnderson » 17 Dec 2013, 16:49
I made the card Xenograft, with my idea of "Name a creature type", with my implementation you type the creature_type, it is still a working progress idea, but the basic functions are working.
There are some limitations :
1. Are supported only the follow languages : English, French, Spanish, German, Italian.
2. When you type the creature type, each special character(expecially for French, Spanish and German) must be turned into basic type ( Example: ALLIÉ must be typed as ALLIE. Example : ÜBERTRÄGER must be typed as UBERTRAGER. Example : TEJÓN must be typed as TEJON). I could fix this issue but the screens with types would be increased too much. I think is a fair compromise.
Positive aspects :
1. You don't have to look the kinds into decks just type one valid kind.
2. Are simultaneously supported 5 languages, so you can type the card into your preferred language also if it is different from playing language. Sometimes the words are shorter into another language so can be easy to type Example : "Bat" : English "Pipistrello" : Italian, you can type "Bat" also if you are playing into Italian language.
3. Only valid kind are accepted otherwise the function restart.
4. On the Button "Ok" you can see what you have already typed (it changes, after each typing)
To make this card work are also needed the follow functions :
Hey guys would be appreciated to know your opinion
There are some limitations :
1. Are supported only the follow languages : English, French, Spanish, German, Italian.
2. When you type the creature type, each special character(expecially for French, Spanish and German) must be turned into basic type ( Example: ALLIÉ must be typed as ALLIE. Example : ÜBERTRÄGER must be typed as UBERTRAGER. Example : TEJÓN must be typed as TEJON). I could fix this issue but the screens with types would be increased too much. I think is a fair compromise.
Positive aspects :
1. You don't have to look the kinds into decks just type one valid kind.
2. Are simultaneously supported 5 languages, so you can type the card into your preferred language also if it is different from playing language. Sometimes the words are shorter into another language so can be easy to type Example : "Bat" : English "Pipistrello" : Italian, you can type "Bat" also if you are playing into Italian language.
3. Only valid kind are accepted otherwise the function restart.
4. On the Button "Ok" you can see what you have already typed (it changes, after each typing)
To make this card work are also needed the follow functions :
- Needed functions | Open
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Hey guys would be appreciated to know your opinion
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Re: Formal Request Thread
by Deadpoolmtg » 18 Dec 2013, 01:15
Missed some important cards for some decks, it is possible to code them?(If yes, could someone do it?) Strange someone not having coded them yet...
Spellweaver Helix
Forbidden Orchard
Tinder Wall
Propaganda
Ghostly Prison(found one whith cmc 1...)
Desperate Ritual
No need to hurry
Spellweaver Helix
Forbidden Orchard
Tinder Wall
Propaganda
Ghostly Prison(found one whith cmc 1...)
Desperate Ritual
No need to hurry
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Re: Formal Request Thread
by Orangewaggs » 19 Dec 2013, 00:04
Hey guys amazing work you do here I have a few requests if I may
Norin the Wary
Burning Inquiry
Gift of Orzhova
If it's possible Genesis Chamber
Megrim
Putrid Leech
Any of the Merfolk not already made
Thank you
Norin the Wary
Burning Inquiry
Gift of Orzhova
If it's possible Genesis Chamber
Megrim
Putrid Leech
Any of the Merfolk not already made
Thank you
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Re: Formal Request Thread
by NeoAnderson » 19 Dec 2013, 02:57
I started to code Spellweaver Helix , this card did drive me crazy.Deadpoolmtg wrote:Missed some important cards for some decks, it is possible to code them?(If yes, could someone do it?) Strange someone not having coded them yet...
Spellweaver Helix
Forbidden Orchard
Tinder Wall
Propaganda
Ghostly Prison(found one whith cmc 1...)
Desperate Ritual
No need to hurry
I have made it but i still have some doubts about how it is supposed to work, i would receive the opinion of other modders like Riiak, TheFiremind, Mc Brodie, Sumomole...
The point to focus are :
1. When i decide to make a copy of the sorcery, the copy must be played during the copy or is stored and can be played later?
2. If the copy is stored the copies are cumulative? I mean until i play it i can make other copies then play them when i decide to do it ?
I also encountered some problem while i made the code :
I was supposing the copy and playing at the same time, and the game crashed many times, finally i found the problem this card exile sorceries, and when we are playing the opponent turn these card cannot be normally played.
This issue make me crazy because i was thinking there were problems with the trigger SPELL_PLAYED, the game was crashing without any log so i had to make a lot of different trials.
Anyway I made it work supposing the follow :
1. You can decide if Exile or not the sorceries when it come into battlefield.
2. You can decide to copy or not the sorcery B when a spell with the same name of the sorcery A is played.
2B. You can decide to copy or not the sorcery A when a spell with the same name of the sorcery B is played.
3. The copy is stored and you can play it into any of your turns, using the the corresponding activable ability on the main card.
4. The copies are cumulative, so until you don't play it you can copy again the same spell, and it will add a new copy to play.
5. If you play the copy it doesn't activate the trigger. Otherwise the card can endlessly loop.
Here you can find the download :
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Copy it into DATA_DLC_DECK_BUILDER_CUSTOM\DATA_ALL_PLATFORMS\TEXT_PERMANENT folder.
If you already have a file with the same name you can rename this one adding a number at end Example : CARD_UI_TEXT.XML to CARD_UI_TEXT2.XML
This card to work properly needs Riiak RSN_Object function installed.
You can download it here :
- Riiak RSN_Object function | Open
Here there is the second requested card Forbidden Orchard.
This card is made using Riiak Mana Functions
- Riiak Manual Mana Functions | Open
Here you can find the card download (including a colorless 1/1 token) :
- FORBIDDEN_ORCHARD_282541.zip
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Re: Formal Request Thread
by NeoAnderson » 19 Dec 2013, 13:54
Another requested card Tinder Wall:Deadpoolmtg wrote:Missed some important cards for some decks, it is possible to code them?(If yes, could someone do it?) Strange someone not having coded them yet...
Spellweaver Helix
Forbidden Orchard
Tinder Wall
Propaganda
Ghostly Prison(found one whith cmc 1...)
Desperate Ritual
No need to hurry
Here you can download :
- TINDER_WALL_184678.zip
- Card Xml + Tdx
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Re: Formal Request Thread
by MC Brodie » 19 Dec 2013, 14:40
I don't think the copy is stored and played later. The gatherer text says if you don't want to cast the copy the copy will cease to exist the next time state based actions are checked. See the bottom of this link. Another interesting thing to note is if you imprint 2 copies of the same card, Spellweaver Helix only triggers once.
If you are having problems casting the card after you copy it I'd suggest to look at the cipher ability if you haven't yet. It seems very similar. There are a handful of cipher cards in the vanilla game.
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/ ... seid=48047
If you are having problems casting the card after you copy it I'd suggest to look at the cipher ability if you haven't yet. It seems very similar. There are a handful of cipher cards in the vanilla game.
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/ ... seid=48047
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Re: Formal Request Thread
by NeoAnderson » 19 Dec 2013, 14:58
Thanks a lot my friend for useful link.MC Brodie wrote:I don't think the copy is stored and played later. The gatherer text says if you don't want to cast the copy the copy will cease to exist the next time state based actions are checked. See the bottom of this link. Another interesting thing to note is if you imprint 2 copies of the same card, Spellweaver Helix only triggers once.
If you are having problems casting the card after you copy it I'd suggest to look at the cipher ability if you haven't yet. It seems very similar. There are a handful of cipher cards in the vanilla game.
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/ ... seid=48047
Now it is more clear, also if i think it will be more complex to code.
Cipher cards can't help, because that effect is applied on creature you control, and when they deal damage you activate the effect, and thi happen during your turn.
I will try some tests now to see what i can do to make it compliant to Mtg Rules, any help will be appreciated
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Re: Formal Request Thread
by MC Brodie » 19 Dec 2013, 15:59
Does the "can cast for free" function check game phases? The cipher code might work. I think most if not all cipher cards are at sorcery speed. When the cipher ability triggers it should be during the combat phase after damage not main phase 2. I'd consider at least trying the cipher code with this pseudo code for the trigger:
Edit - I just looked at your trigger and saw its what I posted. That should work unless I'm badly mistaken. Also, does a LinkedDC work in this case or does that not work for imprint?
Edit - Thanks sumo I wasn't even thinking about those other checks I'm the trigger.
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trigger on spell cast
If spellcast == ImprintA then
return true
elseif spellcast == ImprintB then
return true
end
return false
Edit - I just looked at your trigger and saw its what I posted
. That should work unless I'm badly mistaken. Also, does a LinkedDC work in this case or does that not work for imprint?Edit - Thanks sumo I wasn't even thinking about those other checks I'm the trigger.
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Re: Formal Request Thread
by sumomole » 19 Dec 2013, 16:08
This card is simpler than you think.NeoAnderson wrote:Now it is more clear, also if i think it will be more complex to code.
Cipher cards can't help, because that effect is applied on creature you control, and when they deal damage you activate the effect, and thi happen during your turn.
I will try some tests now to see what i can do to make it compliant to Mtg Rules, any help will be appreciated
For the first ability, first you need to choose targets, the target's zone is graveyard, type is sorcery and count is 2. Second, when the ability resolves you need to exile these two target cards, before exile you also need to use LinkedDC to store them, just like Oblivion Ring.
For the second ability, first it has three trigger conditions: the spell must be a card, rather than a copy; there must be two sorcery cards are exiled by Spellweaver Helix, rather than one or not; and the spell has the same name as one of the cards exiled with Spellweaver Helix. Second, when the ability resolves you need to check the number of the cards exiled again, if less than two, nothing will happen, then if the spell has the same name as one of them, another card will be able to be copied and cast, cipher ability will tell you how to copy a card and cast the copy, finally don't forget the "may", although there are two "may", but in the game, you just need to code once.
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Re: Formal Request Thread
by NeoAnderson » 19 Dec 2013, 16:56
Thanks my friend for the suggestion, as you said also my trigger condition make one copy because it return true before to check the second card.MC Brodie wrote:Does the "can cast for free" function check game phases? The cipher code might work. I think most if not all cipher cards are at sorcery speed. When the cipher ability triggers it should be during the combat phase after damage not main phase 2. I'd consider at least trying the cipher code with this pseudo code for the trigger:With this trigger it should copy only once if the two imprints are the same. Then use similar code for the "copy the card" part by replacing the return true with the copy code. (you could reduce the trigger down to one return line but i used the if statement to illustrate a way to do the copy code).
- Code: Select all
trigger on spell cast
If spellcast == ImprintA then
return true
elseif spellcast == ImprintB then
return true
end
return false
Edit - I just looked at your trigger and saw its what I posted
Edit - Thanks sumo I wasn't even thinking about those other checks I'm the trigger.
About the problem to cast a sorcery while is not your turn i resolved, just granting FLASH into the same resolution block to the copy before cast it.
I would also point that May conditions are 3 :sumomole wrote:This card is simpler than you think.NeoAnderson wrote:Now it is more clear, also if i think it will be more complex to code.
Cipher cards can't help, because that effect is applied on creature you control, and when they deal damage you activate the effect, and thi happen during your turn.
I will try some tests now to see what i can do to make it compliant to Mtg Rules, any help will be appreciated
For the first ability, first you need to choose targets, the target's zone is graveyard, type is sorcery and count is 2. Second, when the ability resolves you need to exile these two target cards, before exile you also need to use LinkedDC to store them, just like Oblivion Ring.
For the second ability, first it has three trigger conditions: the spell must be a card, rather than a copy; there must be two sorcery cards are exiled by Spellweaver Helix, rather than one or not; and the spell has the same name as one of the cards exiled with Spellweaver Helix. Second, when the ability resolves you need to check the number of the cards exiled again, if less than two, nothing will happen, then if the spell has the same name as one of them, another card will be able to be copied and cast, cipher ability will tell you how to copy a card and cast the copy, finally don't forget the "may", although there are two "may", but in the game, you just need to code once.
a. When it enter onto battlefield "you may exile 2 sorceries from a single graveyard"
b. When a spell with same name of exile sorceries is played you may make a copy"
c. You may cast the copy for free
Are all needed because you can also decide to make a copy but without cast it. I know i useless but the card say so.
I have revised my card Sumomole could you test it and let me know if it could be ok?
This version is made with Riiak RSN_ObjectDC function, it's a long story but when i was making the card for the first time i started with LinkedDC as i have seen from other imprint card examples..but i eancountered crashes of the game without log (lately i have understand the problem was cause when i cast a sorcery copy during opponent turn), so i tried many different changes but finally when i understand where the problem was i have already turned it to RSN_Objects..so be patient.
Compliant to these rules :
1. If the two imprinted sorcery cards have the same name and a card with that name is cast, only one copy is created, not two.
2. Spellweaver Helix's second ability creates a copy of the imprinted card in the Exile zone (that's where the imprinted sorcery card is), then allows you to cast it without paying its mana cost.
3. You cast the copy while this ability is resolving, and still on the stack. Normally, you're not allowed to cat spells or activate abilities at this time. Spellweaver Helix's ability breaks this rule. (The card that triggered this ability is also still on the stack.)
4. If you don't want to cast the copy, you can choose not to; the copy ceases to exist the next time state-based actions are checked.
5. The creation of the copy and then the casting of the copy are both optional.
- Spellweaver Helix revised | Open
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IMPORTANT INFORMATIONS
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Copy it into DATA_DLC_DECK_BUILDER_CUSTOM\DATA_ALL_PLATFORMS\TEXT_PERMANENT folder.
If you already have a file with the same name you can rename this one adding a number at end Example : CARD_UI_TEXT.XML to CARD_UI_TEXT2.XML
This card to work properly needs Riiak RSN_Object function installed.
You can download it here :
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Re: Formal Request Thread
by sumomole » 19 Dec 2013, 17:20
I just want to say it is really too looong!NeoAnderson wrote:I have revised my card Sumomole could you test it and let me know if it could be ok?
1. your first ability has no target, and you only need to choose two cards from graveyard, don't need to choose a player.
2. in 2014 "may "is a specific code, you don't need use multiple choice.
3. CastSpellForFree can cast a spell at any time, it would have been cast to ignore the timing, so CHARACTERISTIC_FLASH is redundant.
4. I'm sure LinkedDC not be a problem, so you don't need RSN_ObjectDC.
5. the trigger condition of the second ability isn't complete, you can look at what I wrote above.
I try to code it, here is my version.
- untested | Open
yes, and b&c in the second ability, so you can only code once, I don't think code twice has any help to the game. if I am wrong, please tell me.NeoAnderson wrote:I would also point that May conditions are 3 :
a. When it enter onto battlefield "you may exile 2 sorceries from a single graveyard"
b. When a spell with same name of exile sorceries is played you may make a copy"
c. You may cast the copy for free
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Re: Formal Request Thread
by NeoAnderson » 19 Dec 2013, 17:54
Ahahha I know sometimes my mind follow its weird pathssumomole wrote:I just want to say it is really too looong!
Anyway i would answer to you point by point :
I made it in this way because we need that the cards exiled are in the same graveyard, so i thought to check before which graveyard are suitable for this condition.sumomole wrote:1. your first ability has no target, and you only need to choose two cards from graveyard, don't need to choose a player.
Are you sure that simply using Target definition with items_count=2 and with Set Zone Graveyard the target will be picked from the same graveyard??
I know about May into Dotp 2014 but honestly i still don't understand how is supposed to work, does it automatically show a question? because into many cards i tried May condition seem simply skipped without letting you choose!sumomole wrote:2. in 2014 "may "is a specific code, you don't need use multiple choice.
As i said to MC Brodie this is my solution to a problem i have encountered, if i tried to copy a sorcery during opponents turn the game was crashing, now i don't know if this issue is only for me or not! but when i checked for other cards with imprint already coded i only find some example with instants, or other abilities played during your turn.sumomole wrote:3. CastSpellForFree can cast a spell at any time, it would have been cast to ignore the timing, so CHARACTERISTIC_FLASH is redundant.
As i said before i know the problem is not linkedDC, but now i have already coded the card and i should have to change it againsumomole wrote:4. I'm sure LinkedDC not be a problem, so you don't need RSN_ObjectDC.
please forgive my laziness.Probably i forget to add nil check for both cards during the trigger, about WasCast() have you tried it with 2014? I tried to usesumomole wrote:5. the trigger condition of the second ability isn't complete, you can look at what I wrote above.
I try to code it, here is my version.
with another card sometime ago but the game doesn't recognize it.
About IsToken function i was not sure if it could be used for spell cast with Copyspell now i know
NeoAnderson wrote:I would also point that May conditions are 3 :
a. When it enter onto battlefield "you may exile 2 sorceries from a single graveyard"
b. When a spell with same name of exile sorceries is played you may make a copy"
c. You may cast the copy for free
Honestly I agree with you but i just tried to keep the MTG rules for this card.sumomole wrote:yes, and b&c in the second ability, so you can only code once, I don't think code twice has any help to the game. if I am wrong, please tell me.
If you don't want to cast the copy, you can choose not to; the copy ceases to exist the next time state-based actions are checked. This rule is reported on gather.wizard.com.
There is also another issue with your code :
The card should not trigger when i cast the copy but this is not true if another player use a card to cast copies.
As you wrote the card will not trigger if the spell is a copy. But the text just say if a card with the same name, so it doesn't say Non-Token card or not copied-Card.
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Re: Formal Request Thread
by sumomole » 19 Dec 2013, 18:14
yes, but is count, not items_count.NeoAnderson wrote:Are you sure that simply using Target definition with items_count=2 and with Set Zone Graveyard the target will be picked from the same graveyard??
You should note that in two abilities I used different code for "may" effect, the second one has always_prompt="1", there is "always use optional abilities" in game settings, if it is turned on, "may" effect defaults to yes, that is the situation you encounter, if you add always_prompt="1", it will always prompt you.NeoAnderson wrote:I know about May into Dotp 2014 but honestly i still don't understand how is supposed to work, does it automatically show a question? because into many cards i tried May condition seem simply skipped without letting you choose!
"Whenever a player casts a card", copy is not a card, you must distinguish between spell and card, just spell include copy.NeoAnderson wrote:The card should not trigger when i cast the copy but this is not true if another player use a card to cast copies.
As you wrote the card will not trigger if the spell is a copy. But the text just say if a card with the same name, so it doesn't say Non-Token card or not copied-Card.
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Re: Formal Request Thread
by NeoAnderson » 19 Dec 2013, 18:25
Thanks a lot for these explanations. Are really useful for me, as you can see i am not a programmer and this is my first Dotp Editing adventuresumomole wrote:yes, but is count, not items_count.NeoAnderson wrote:Are you sure that simply using Target definition with items_count=2 and with Set Zone Graveyard the target will be picked from the same graveyard??You should note that in two abilities I used different code for "may" effect, the second one has always_prompt="1", there is "always use optional abilities" in game settings, if it is turned on, "may" effect defaults to yes, that is the situation you encounter, if you add always_prompt="1", it will always prompt you.NeoAnderson wrote:I know about May into Dotp 2014 but honestly i still don't understand how is supposed to work, does it automatically show a question? because into many cards i tried May condition seem simply skipped without letting you choose!"Whenever a player casts a card", copy is not a card.NeoAnderson wrote:The card should not trigger when i cast the copy but this is not true if another player use a card to cast copies.
As you wrote the card will not trigger if the spell is a copy. But the text just say if a card with the same name, so it doesn't say Non-Token card or not copied-Card.
I can confirm to you that your code works, i just tried it. Ok i can add this experience for future cards coding
Just one last thing.
Could you try my Xenograft version i have made the function about name a creature type we talked last time. I would know what you think about it.
You can find it into these topic
I really would know what you think. Also you Mc Brodie, Riiak, and TheFireMind, check it and let me know if you think could be useful or not.UPDATE : One thing Sumomole, I disabled "always use optional abilities" in game settings, now it works, thanks but, the card when enters into battlefield, ask the targets selection and when you made it, it asks if you want to use the ability.
It is a little bit weird
, i also tried to move the May tag before of the target tag but it is the same. Targets are evaluated first.- NeoAnderson
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