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Re: BotArena Bugs

PostPosted: 14 Oct 2012, 06:00
by FranAvalon
Emfatic wrote:
FranAvalon wrote:
Emfatic wrote:2. After putting Rapacious One into play with Quicksilver Amulet, I got a card into my hand. There was nothing else on the battlefield that would have allowed me to draw a card.
I can't reproduce it. Could you attach the gamelog. Maybe it can help to determinate what happened.
Examining the gamelog is new to me and excellent. I know now to do this before logging bugs. As for this "issue", the log shows I activated Quicksilver Amulet during my upkeep phase and therefore immediately afterwards, during my draw phase, drew a card, so it's not a bug. Just an oversight. :)
Nice to read this

Re: BotArena Bugs

PostPosted: 14 Oct 2012, 10:42
by Emfatic
There were 3 Eldrazi Spawn tokens created when I cast Emrakul's Hatcher. During the next turn, while tapping land in preparation for casting Broodwarden, 2 of my Eldrazi Spawn tokens disappeared. After Broodwarden was cast, I was left with only one 2/2 Eldrazi Spawn. Here is the game log. See turns 5 and 6.

Re: BotArena Bugs

PostPosted: 14 Oct 2012, 11:23
by FranAvalon
Somehow, the two missing spawns was used for mana to cast Broodwarden.
You can see that only three lands was tapped to cast a 5 mana spell.

Mom's Beginning phase
=============== Eric (17) ========================================== Turn: 5 ==
|Library (45) |
| Vigor Mortis Abrupt Decay3 Maelstrom Pulse2 |
|Graveyard ( 5) |
| Avacyn, An... Hope2(8/8) Marsh Flats2 Verdant Catacombs3 |
| Verdant Catacombs Maelstrom Pulse3 |
|Battlefield ( 4) |
| (T)Overgrown Tomb (T)Godless Shrine (T)Temple Garden |
| (T)Murmuring Bosk2 |
|Hand ( 6) |
| 2WW:Resurrection4 2WW:Resurrection3 Swamp5 |
| 3WW:Defy Death2 Woodland Cemetery Godless Shrine2 |
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
=============== Mom (20, Active, Priority) ========================= Turn: 6 ==
|Library (101) |
| Celestial Purge Iona, Shie...Emeria(7/7) Lurking Predators3 |
|Graveyard ( 1) |
| Emrakul's Hatcher(3/3) |
|Battlefield ( 8) |
| (T)Darkslick Shores2 (T)Jungle Shrine2 (T)Razorverge Thicket3 |
| (T)Exotic Orchard (T)Swamp Eldrazi Spawn(0/1) |
| Eldrazi Spawn2(0/1) Eldrazi Spawn3(0/1) |
|Hand ( 5) |
| 5WW:Elesh ...nobite(4/7) 1W:Celestial Purge2 5:Gilded Lotus |
| Urza's Mine2 3GG:Broodwarden(4/4) |
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
(Mom drew Celestial Purge)
Mom played Urza's Mine2
Mom cast Broodwarden
Mom attacked Eric with Eldrazi Spawn(2/2)

Eric's Beginning phase
=============== Eric (15, Active, Priority) ======================== Turn: 6 ==
|Library (45) |
| Vigor Mortis Abrupt Decay3 Maelstrom Pulse2 |
|Graveyard ( 5) |
| Avacyn, An... Hope2(8/8) Marsh Flats2 Verdant Catacombs3 |
| Verdant Catacombs Maelstrom Pulse3 |
|Battlefield ( 4) |
| (T)Overgrown Tomb (T)Godless Shrine (T)Temple Garden |
| (T)Murmuring Bosk2 |
|Hand ( 6) |
| 2WW:Resurrection4 2WW:Resurrection3 Swamp5 |
| 3WW:Defy Death2 Woodland Cemetery Godless Shrine2 |
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
=============== Mom (20) =========================================== Turn: 6 ==
|Library (100) |
| Iona, Shie...Emeria(7/7) Lurking Predators3 Exotic Orchard2 |
|Graveyard ( 1) |
| Emrakul's Hatcher(3/3) |
|Battlefield ( 8) |
| (T)darkslick Shores2 jungle Shrine2 (T)razorverge Thicket3 |
| (T)exotic Orchard swamp (T)Eldrazi Spawn(2/2) |
| Urza's Mine2 Broodwarden(4/4) |
|Hand ( 4) |
| 5WW:Elesh ...nobite(4/7) 1W:Celestial Purge2 5:Gilded Lotus |
| 1W:Celestial Purge |
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
In red tapped lands on next turn after the "disappear" of the spawns: Darkslick Shores2, (T)Razorverge Thicket3 and (T)Exotic Orchard. Remains untapped: Jungle Shrine2, Urza's Mine2 and Swamp. No other mana source was used to cast Broodwarden, so the only way to cast it, is sac-ing the spawns :)

Re: BotArena Bugs

PostPosted: 14 Oct 2012, 19:17
by Emfatic
FranAvalon wrote:Somehow, the two missing spawns was used for mana to cast Broodwarden.
You can see that only three lands was tapped to cast a 5 mana spell.
Hmmm, looks like I'm still learning how to read the game log. Thanks. (This is getting embarrassing :? )

Re: BotArena Bugs

PostPosted: 14 Oct 2012, 19:23
by FranAvalon
Gamelog shows four areas of the game when the turn starts:
Libray: (Cards left)
Next three cards from top to bottom. (top, second card, third card)

Graveyard (number of cards into the graveyard)
Cards on the graveyard from top to bottom

Battlefield (Number of cards on the battlefield)
Shows all cards and tokens on the battlefield. Cards tapped are represented by a (T) before the card name.

Hand (number of cards)
Name of the cards.

And of course triggers and actions.

Re: BotArena Bugs

PostPosted: 14 Oct 2012, 19:50
by FranAvalon
Emfatic wrote:
FranAvalon wrote:Somehow, the two missing spawns was used for mana to cast Broodwarden.
You can see that only three lands was tapped to cast a 5 mana spell.
Hmmm, looks like I'm still learning how to read the game log. Thanks. (This is getting embarrassing :? )
Don't worry. Thx for testing

Re: BotArena Bugs

PostPosted: 18 Oct 2012, 05:41
by Emfatic
The game has crashed twice upon casting Armada Wurm. I get an error msg - Game Engine Exception - The thread tried to read from or write to a virtual address for which it does not have the appropriate access.

Re: BotArena Bugs

PostPosted: 18 Oct 2012, 15:43
by FranAvalon
By description, the bug seems to be related to token production ability. Currently, in our alphas, it is fixed.

Re: BotArena Bugs

PostPosted: 18 Oct 2012, 21:13
by Emfatic
With phase stops on both of the opponent's Main Phase (post combat) and End Phase, the prompts are as follows:
- Passes and ready for ____'s clean up step (discard)
- Passes and ready for ____'s clean up step
- Passes (that is before beginning my turn) (I have no stop here)
- Passes and ready for (my) untap step (I have no stop here)
I have an Always Pass On marker for the draw step so then it finally proceeds to my upkeep phase. Isn't this a bit extreme, having to stop at each of these spots? I only marked both of these stops because it was skipping my chance to activate something (Trostani, Selesnya's Voice - populate ability in this case) at the end of the AI's turn with just a stop at the post combat main phase. Is this a bug or how else are you to get it to stop at the end of its turn?

So, there are two issues here:
1. It won't stop at the end of the AI's turn by just marking the post combat phase to stop
2. There are too many stops if there's a stop on the opponent's end phase.

Re: BotArena Bugs

PostPosted: 19 Oct 2012, 18:17
by Emfatic
1. The ability of Dawn's Reflection is not triggered when you tap the enchanted land.

2. When Primordial Hydra comes into play as a result of a cascade ability, I get the option to make X equal to some number, which shouldn't happen. X should always be zero in this case, I believe. (By the way, when I select X=2 for instance, Primordial Hydra comes out as a 2/2 creature but none of my lands are tapped for it.)

Re: BotArena Bugs

PostPosted: 19 Oct 2012, 21:36
by FranAvalon
Emfatic wrote:2. When Primordial Hydra comes into play as a result of a cascade ability, I get the option to make X equal to some number, which shouldn't happen. X should always be zero in this case, I believe. (By the way, when I select X=2 for instance, Primordial Hydra comes out as a 2/2 creature but none of my lands are tapped for it.)
This is a known one. Free casting for X cost spells was broken some time ago, but we don't have any clues why.

Re: BotArena Bugs

PostPosted: 30 Oct 2012, 03:34
by Emfatic
1. When there is already a Parallel Lives or a Doubling Season on the battlefield, further Parallel Lives cannot be cast unless "All Actions" is checked off.

2. When loyalty tokens are added to a Planeswalker with Doubling Season in play, the tokens are not being doubled. They are however correctly doubled when the Planeswalker is cast.

3. I cast Fresh Meat on my opponent's turn (only available to cast with "All Actions" checked off). I had lost two creatures during that turn. Parallel Lives was in play so I should have gotten 4 Beast tokens added to my battlefield. However, I got 8. I've attached the game log. See turn 6.
EDIT: Looks like I already logged a related bug on Oct. 8. In that case, the beast tokens were also doubled incorrectly with Parallel Lives on the AI side. I'm not sure if Fresh Meat always doubles the number of tokens that should be there, or only when Parallel Lives is on someone's battlefield. I'll try to pay attention to that next time.

Re: BotArena Bugs

PostPosted: 30 Oct 2012, 10:59
by Marek14
That thing with planeswalkees is not a bug. Loyalty abilities add counters as cost, not effect - Doubling season only works on effect.

Re: BotArena Bugs

PostPosted: 30 Oct 2012, 13:43
by FranAvalon
Marek is right. See here:
http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/ ... neswalkers

I rememeber that we discuss this too on our forum long time ago :wink:

Re: BotArena Bugs

PostPosted: 30 Oct 2012, 17:29
by Emfatic
About the Planeswalkers, that's very interesting...I guess Forge is doing it wrong. :wink: (I'll log a bug there then.)