Forge Beta: 11-29-2013 ver 1.5.6

[tritoch]

Condescend does not counter.

[drdev]

Condescend does not counter.

This issue is fixed in the latest snapshot build.

[Xitax]

AI countered my summon with Logic Knot where X=2, but I was asked to pay 0.

[Bundy]

I have 9 different gates in play and activate Maze's End. I put the 10th gate in play and win the game, without Maze's End being in play. I expected that i would only win if Maze's End was in play

[drdev]

AI countered my summon with Logic Knot where X=2, but I was asked to pay 0.

Same issue as Condescend mentioned above, so it's fixed in the latest snapshot build.

[friarsol]

I have 9 different gates in play and activate Maze's End. I put the 10th gate in play and win the game, without Maze's End being in play. I expected that i would only win if Maze's End was in play

You win the game as part of Maze's End's ability. In fact, it's generally not going to be in play when you win.

[gos]

. Ragged Veins and Kindle the Carnage are not working together as anticipated.

I enchanted my opponent's creature with Ragged Veins. I then cast Kindle the Carnage and discarded cards with converted mana cost 8, 7, and 8.

3 Ragged Veins triggers went on the stack, but they did not deal any damage to my opponent when they resolved.

[sockmeistr]

Me and my opponent both have Tarmogoyf in play, and I control a Deathrite Shaman. I attack with Tarmogoyf, and he blocks, so each goyf has 6 toughness and 5 damage. I then activate Deathrite Shaman to exile the last creature in my graveyard, reducing each goyf's toughness to 5.
I would expect both goyfs to die, but mine dies and the opponents remain - as my goyf is now a creature in the graveyard, my opponent's goyf has enough toughness to live. This seems to contradict rule 704.3 (state-based effects occur simultaneously).

[gos]

When I take control of my opponent's turn with Mindslaver my layout becomes corrupted - the battlefield disappears and I can't get it back without deleting the preferences files.

[Xitax]

I have 9 different gates in play and activate Maze's End. I put the 10th gate in play and win the game, without Maze's End being in play. I expected that i would only win if Maze's End was in play

You win the game as part of Maze's End's ability. In fact, it's generally not going to be in play when you win.

In fact you have to activate the ability to win the game, so the only way you can win with Maze's End on the battlefield is if you had two in play.

[tasteful]

the reason it doesn't have to be on the battlefield, in case it's not clear, is the face that the "you win" clause is part of the ability, not a separate state-based ability attached to maze's end.

[friarsol]

In fact you have to activate the ability to win the game, so the only way you can win with Maze's End on the battlefield is if you had two in play.

Since you return the Maze's End as a cost, you could sneak it back into play with Walking Atlas. But yea, very unlikely, especially if you think you are going to win when the ability resolves.

[Uberbad]

There's something wrong with Rout, AI is casting it for free during my turn. I took a look at the script, but I couldn't see the problem. I suspect it's in how Forge deals with the ability "K:You may cast CARDNAME any time you could cast an instant if you pay 2 more to cast it."

You were correct that it was a bug in the processing of that keyword. Turned out to be an issue with how mana costs were being processed in certain places in the code after recent changes to support displaying mana costs using icons. It basically resulted in the card effectively being given the ability "you may play this as an instant by paying instead of its mana cost".

Thanks a lot for another new version of Forge and for your effort you put into this.

Just like in 1.5.5 though Rune Snag doesn't make the AI have to pay the additional mana when I counter a spell with it.

Edit: It's the same with Syncopate.

The same mana formatting issue as above was causing cards like Rune Snag, Syncopate, and Condescend to fail by effectively giving them the text "counter target spell unless its controller pays ".

Both of these issues have now been fixed. Thanks for reporting them and helping me track them down.

I'm still seeing the problem with Syncopate.

[drdev]

Uberbad, the issue should be fixed in the latest snapshot build (not 1.5.6) What version are you running?

[Uberbad]

I see now, I'm not on the snapshot. Is there a faq on how to download and apply it?

Edit: I think I figured it out.

Just fyi, I really love the program and think everyone working on Forge is doing a great job. Keep up the good work!