The Ultimate Quest Mode Thread
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Re: The Ultimate Quest Mode Thread
by Fizanko » 04 Jun 2014, 20:55
A tournament using quest decks ?
That sounds really great.
As i just completed my 100th battle with the AI in Ravnica, i decided to give a look at how many cards had been in my stockpile :
wow, didn't thought there were that many.
That sounds really great.
As i just completed my 100th battle with the AI in Ravnica, i decided to give a look at how many cards had been in my stockpile :
wow, didn't thought there were that many.
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Re: The Ultimate Quest Mode Thread
by Fizanko » 05 Jun 2014, 20:57
I decided to build a new deck , as with the enormous amount of card i have in my stockpile, i have lots of choice, and for once go with a ravnica monocolored deck (i have made lots of dual colored one so far).
I decided to go with White.
So far it has worked great, and i even managed to beat the nasty Momir Vig challenge with it
Here's my white ravnica deck :
I decided to go with White.
So far it has worked great, and i even managed to beat the nasty Momir Vig challenge with it
Here's my white ravnica deck :
- Fizanko-RavWhite | Open
- 1 Angel of Serenity|RTR
1 Arrest|RTR
2 Assault Griffin|GTC
1 Azorius Justiciar|RTR
1 Blazing Archon|RAV
1 Blind Obedience|GTC
2 Boros Elite|GTC
2 Celestial Ancient|DIS
4 Daring Skyjek|GTC
2 Ethereal Armor|RTR
1 Gideon, Champion of Justice|GTC
1 Glaring Spotlight|GTC
1 Guardian of the Gateless|GTC
2 Guardian's Magemark|GPT
2 Holy Mantle|GTC
1 Murder Investigation|GTC
20 Plains|RTR|1
4 Plains|RTR|2
1 Rest in Peace|RTR
4 Seller of Songbirds|RTR
2 Soul Tithe|RTR
4 Trained Caracal|RTR
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Re: The Ultimate Quest Mode Thread
by Fizanko » 05 Jun 2014, 21:47
So happy, finally managed to reach my first ever 50 win streak and got some really great reward for it :
And that last duel (and a couple of them before) had been won with a ravnica monocolored green test deck i had built :
I'm especially happy with getting Master of Cruelties , Utvara Hellkite , Voice or Resurgence and Trostani, Selesnya's Voice that were 4 cards i didn't had in my currently near-3000 card stockpile.
That open even more new possible deck idea to me, i really like that Ravnica-only quest and its world
And that last duel (and a couple of them before) had been won with a ravnica monocolored green test deck i had built :
- Fizanko-RavGreen | Open
- 2 Beastmaster's Magemark|GPT
3 Burst of Strength|GTC
3 Crocanura|GTC
3 Deadbridge Goliath|RTR
1 Death's Presence|RTR
1 Doubling Season|RAV
4 Dryad Sophisticate|GPT
3 Experiment One|GTC
3 Forced Adaptation|GTC
4 Forest|RAV|1
6 Forest|RAV|2
5 Forest|RAV|3
7 Forest|RAV|4
2 Forest|RTR|5
1 Giant Adephage|GTC
3 Ivy Lane Denizen|GTC
1 Scion of the Wild|RAV
3 Skarrgan Pit-Skulk|GPT
1 Slime Molding|RTR
3 Utopia Sprawl|DIS
1 Wild Beastmaster|RTR
I'm especially happy with getting Master of Cruelties , Utvara Hellkite , Voice or Resurgence and Trostani, Selesnya's Voice that were 4 cards i didn't had in my currently near-3000 card stockpile.
That open even more new possible deck idea to me, i really like that Ravnica-only quest and its world
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Re: The Ultimate Quest Mode Thread
by KrazyTheFox » 05 Jun 2014, 21:51
Nice! I've never actually hit 50 myself. I can get to 40-ish, but usually something goes wrong and I lose a match in there.Fizanko wrote:So happy, finally managed to reach my first ever 50 win streak and got some really great reward for it :
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Especially Master of Cruelties , Utvara Hellkite , Voice or Resurgence and Trostani, Selesnya's Voice that were 4 cards i didn't had in my currently near-3000 card stockpile.
That open even more new possible deck idea to me, i really like that Ravnica-only quest and its world
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Re: The Ultimate Quest Mode Thread
by Fizanko » 05 Jun 2014, 21:54
I think out of the Ravnica world i never got that high.
Probably only possible in that world to get very high streak because the AI does not play with broken decks (i only started with the challenges for when i started to have more than 2000 cards in my stock).
Certainly the reason i like Ravnica so much, i don't need to use broken card to fight an AI with broken cards.
As in the other worlds, even if you can yourself build very broken one, you can still face an AI that will get a bit more luck and be able to use broken cards before you.
Probably only possible in that world to get very high streak because the AI does not play with broken decks (i only started with the challenges for when i started to have more than 2000 cards in my stock).
Certainly the reason i like Ravnica so much, i don't need to use broken card to fight an AI with broken cards.
As in the other worlds, even if you can yourself build very broken one, you can still face an AI that will get a bit more luck and be able to use broken cards before you.
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Re: The Ultimate Quest Mode Thread
by timmermac » 06 Jun 2014, 17:15
Another restart, as I'm trying something a bit different to keep memory usage ramping to a minimum. Nothing in the card shop except for basic lands and cards I lose in ante until I get to 50 wins. Boosters for winning now contain 40 commons, 20 uncommons and 15 rares. That builds up my card pool. I am currently 4-2 with this quest with a deck that's using landwalking creatures, Angels, Dragons, Vampires and Specters and spells.
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1 Angelic Arbiter|COM
1 Armadillo Cloak|INV
1 Armored Ascension|SHM
1 Azorius Guildgate|RTR
1 Bloodlord of Vaasgoth|M12
1 Boartusk Liege|SHM
1 Branching Bolt|ARC
1 Brushland|6ED
1 Cancel|M10
1 Charcoal Diamond|6ED
1 Coat of Arms|9ED
1 Curse of Wizardry|ROE
1 Death's Caress|DKA
1 Disenchant|LEB
1 Distress|10E
1 Elves of Deep Shadow|DDJ
1 Elvish Skysweeper|C13
1 Exalted Angel|ONS
1 Faith's Fetters|RAV
1 Fallen Angel|CHR
1 Fallen Angel|LEG
1 Feral Animist|GPT
1 Fireball|3ED
1 Fit of Rage|6ED
1 Fit of Rage|WTH
1 Flamewave Invoker|10E
5 Forest|S00|1
5 Forest|S00|2
1 Geralf's Messenger|DKA
1 Goatnapper|LRW
1 Goblin Hero|S99
1 Goblin Soothsayer|MIR
1 Goblin Warchief|EVG
1 Godtracker of Jund|ARB
1 Hammer of Bogardan|6ED
1 Harrowing Journey|DKA
1 Heliod's Emissary|THS
1 Highland Weald|CSP
1 Incremental Growth|LRW
1 Invigorating Falls|TOR
1 Iroas, God of Victory|JOU
5 Island|S00|1
5 Island|S00|2
1 Jwar Isle Refuge|C13
1 Knotvine Mystic|CFX
1 Korlash, Heir to Blackblade|FUT
1 Leshrac's Rite|7ED
1 Lightning Blast|7ED
1 Liliana's Caress|M11
1 Merfolk Looter|EXO
1 Merfolk of the Pearl Trident|4ED
1 Merrow Bonegnawer|EVE
1 Minotaur Abomination|M14
1 Mountain|ARN
5 Mountain|S00|1
4 Mountain|S00|2
1 Nantuko Husk|9ED
1 Necropolis Regent|RTR
1 Oros, the Avenger|PLC
1 Orzhov Guildgate|DGM
1 Plague Witch|NMS
5 Plains|S00|1
5 Plains|S00|2
1 Prismwake Merrow|SHM
1 Quirion Elves|INV
1 Rabble-Rouser|GPT
1 Relic Crush|ZEN
1 Rites of Flourishing|M12
1 Sand Silos|FEM
1 Saprazzan Raider|MMQ
1 Scourge of Kher Ridges|FUT
1 Seeker of Skybreak|7ED
1 Shivan Dragon|4ED
1 Sigil of the Empty Throne|CFX
1 Silent Sentinel|BNG
2 Simic Cluestone|DGM
1 Skirk Shaman|PLC
1 Soul Nova|MRD
2 Swamp|S00|1
8 Swamp|S00|2
1 Terrus Wurm|RTR
1 Tooth of Ramos|MMQ
1 Triton Cavalry|JOU
1 Triton Shorethief|THS
1 Undead Minotaur|M14
1 Unholy Strength|9ED
1 Voices from the Void|CFX
1 Volcanic Strength|M11
1 Voracious Dragon|DDG
1 Wandering Goblins|CFX
1 Where Ancients Tread|ALA
1 Whispersilk Cloak|10E
1 Wildheart Invoker|ROE
1 Zephid's Embrace|USG
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Re: The Ultimate Quest Mode Thread
by Fizanko » 06 Jun 2014, 17:54
new version and so time for a new quest after my Ravnica fun.
I'll try a Zendikar block (Zendikar+Worldwake+Rise of Eldrazi) - only quest, similarly to what i did with Ravnica, only Zendikar block cards, rewards and spellshop from the quest preferences and only in the Zendikar world.
I'm not used at all to that world, so it will be a time of discovery, especially after my Ravnica 2 blocks quest that i didn't start with being completely new to its system, probably going to get a lot of losses before i "get" it
I'll try a Zendikar block (Zendikar+Worldwake+Rise of Eldrazi) - only quest, similarly to what i did with Ravnica, only Zendikar block cards, rewards and spellshop from the quest preferences and only in the Zendikar world.
I'm not used at all to that world, so it will be a time of discovery, especially after my Ravnica 2 blocks quest that i didn't start with being completely new to its system, probably going to get a lot of losses before i "get" it
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Re: The Ultimate Quest Mode Thread
by Fizanko » 06 Jun 2014, 17:58
Talking about luck, what do i see in my starting card stockpile :
Emrakul, the Aeons Torn and Eldrazi Conscription !
Now i hope to find some card to play them from the library as i doubt you can reach that amount of required mana in normal play without a game being already over
Emrakul, the Aeons Torn and Eldrazi Conscription !
Now i hope to find some card to play them from the library as i doubt you can reach that amount of required mana in normal play without a game being already over
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Re: The Ultimate Quest Mode Thread
by timmermac » 06 Jun 2014, 18:12
Sure you can. Some games against the AI do last long enough for you to drop one of those Eldrazi baddies.Fizanko wrote:Talking about luck, what do i see in my starting card stockpile :
Emrakul, the Aeons Torn and Eldrazi Conscription !
Now i hope to find some card to play them from the library as i doubt you can reach that amount of required mana in normal play without a game being already over
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Re: The Ultimate Quest Mode Thread
by Fizanko » 06 Jun 2014, 18:34
For the 8 mana card yes, but honestly i don't remember the last time i got 15 lands down before a game was over (for me or for the AI)
I'll have to get some mana boosting creature cards to help, and probably make use of some instant/sorcery that can call for more land (got 2 of those on my starting deck).
But Zendikar has some cards like
Eye of Ugin or Eldrazi Temple to lower the cost of an Eldrazi card.
And all those weak 0/1 Eldrazi token that many card will create are certainly going to help.
Interesting time ahead
In other news, i lost my first duel and won my 2nd one using a green and red based deck (that has lot of room for improvement as it's semi weak 60 card deck), got an interesting reward on my win :
Hmm, sounds rather awesome, i'm tempted to start playing with black now.
I'll have to get some mana boosting creature cards to help, and probably make use of some instant/sorcery that can call for more land (got 2 of those on my starting deck).
But Zendikar has some cards like
Eye of Ugin or Eldrazi Temple to lower the cost of an Eldrazi card.
And all those weak 0/1 Eldrazi token that many card will create are certainly going to help.
Interesting time ahead
In other news, i lost my first duel and won my 2nd one using a green and red based deck (that has lot of room for improvement as it's semi weak 60 card deck), got an interesting reward on my win :
Hmm, sounds rather awesome, i'm tempted to start playing with black now.
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Re: The Ultimate Quest Mode Thread
by timmermac » 06 Jun 2014, 18:47
I haven't played much in the other worlds, so I'm not too familiar with those opponents, but of the ones in the main world, Barney Rubble, Sherlock Holmes, The Great Gatsby, and a number of the other ones can take long enough for you to get sufficient land to drop an Eldrazi bomb on them.
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Re: The Ultimate Quest Mode Thread
by Fizanko » 06 Jun 2014, 18:50
I wish there was Elvish Piper in that Zendikar block, but fortunately it's not in (or it would be too broken)
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Re: The Ultimate Quest Mode Thread
by Fizanko » 07 Jun 2014, 00:08
Kalitas, Bloodchief of Ghet comes very rarely in my hand and even more rarely on the battlefield, but when it's there, oh the fun.
So i was dueling the AI Kozilek "i can get dozen of eldrazi spawns in no time" supposedly labelled "easy".
Then the AI as it has lots of eldrazi spawns, play Artisan of Kozilek , yeah, just like that a card that usually says "game over for you start next turn"
But, Kalitas, Bloodchief of Ghet my good friend :
And hello supervampire token 10/9 on my side
Then, as usual when it can pull lots of Eldrazi Spawn , the AI play Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
another "game over for you next turn" card.
But .. Kalitas, Bloodchief of Ghet good
hello another supervampire token 12/12 on my side
Luck was on my side, as i managed to beat that ai
using that black deck, still early in the quest (i'm at 5 win/5 losses)
So i was dueling the AI Kozilek "i can get dozen of eldrazi spawns in no time" supposedly labelled "easy".
Then the AI as it has lots of eldrazi spawns, play Artisan of Kozilek , yeah, just like that a card that usually says "game over for you start next turn"
But, Kalitas, Bloodchief of Ghet my good friend :
And hello supervampire token 10/9 on my side
Then, as usual when it can pull lots of Eldrazi Spawn , the AI play Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
another "game over for you next turn" card.
But .. Kalitas, Bloodchief of Ghet good
hello another supervampire token 12/12 on my side
Luck was on my side, as i managed to beat that ai
using that black deck, still early in the quest (i'm at 5 win/5 losses)
- Fizanko-zenBlackEasy | Open
- 1 Agadeem Occultist|WWK
1 Blood Seeker|ZEN
1 Bloodhusk Ritualist|WWK
3 Bojuka Brigand|WWK
2 Corpsehatch|ROE
1 Curse of Wizardry|ROE
1 Drana, Kalastria Bloodchief|ROE
1 Essence Feed|ROE
1 Feast of Blood|ZEN
1 Gatekeeper of Malakir|ZEN
1 Kalitas, Bloodchief of Ghet|ZEN
1 Mire Blight|ZEN
2 Nimana Sell-Sword|ZEN
2 Nirkana Cutthroat|ROE
1 Ob Nixilis, the Fallen|ZEN
1 Pawn of Ulamog|ROE
2 Pulse Tracker|WWK
1 Quest for the Gravelord|ZEN
3 Ruthless Cullblade|WWK
1 Suffer the Past|ROE
4 Swamp|ROE|2
20 Swamp|ROE|4
2 Tomb Hex|WWK
2 Urge to Feed|WWK
3 Vampire Lacerator|ZEN
1 Vampire's Bite|ZEN
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Re: The Ultimate Quest Mode Thread
by mastroego » 08 Jun 2014, 10:15
Started a new quest to try Quest Draft.
It's amazing.
Quest is very different now. I need money all the time, so I changed my playstyle, finally went for plants and pets to increase my win ratio, and started to play for ante. Indeed I win a lot more now, though now and then an opponent draws the perfect hand and crushes me out of the blue (like land, land, Stinkdrinker Daredevil x2, Inferno Titan x2 , which nearly bankrupted me since it also robbed me of Elspeth, Knight-Errant and I had to buy her back!).
What may need fine tuning is how Challenges are handled.
I find myself avoiding them now, since you need very powerful and possibly specific decks, and interrupting a win-streak hurts a lot when you're hunting for prizes.
I would attempt one only immediately after another loss.
It's amazing.
Quest is very different now. I need money all the time, so I changed my playstyle, finally went for plants and pets to increase my win ratio, and started to play for ante. Indeed I win a lot more now, though now and then an opponent draws the perfect hand and crushes me out of the blue (like land, land, Stinkdrinker Daredevil x2, Inferno Titan x2 , which nearly bankrupted me since it also robbed me of Elspeth, Knight-Errant and I had to buy her back!).
What may need fine tuning is how Challenges are handled.
I find myself avoiding them now, since you need very powerful and possibly specific decks, and interrupting a win-streak hurts a lot when you're hunting for prizes.
I would attempt one only immediately after another loss.
Re: The Ultimate Quest Mode Thread
by lujo » 08 Jun 2014, 19:15
I've just done a Homelands draft in quest mode and despite all the flak Homelands get for being the worst expansion ever - it was AMAZING!
The stuff does have internal sinergies and logics, with silly looking cards being in fact vital answers to other silly looking cards. Creature enchantments and Shrink were incredibly cool and scrambling to find answers to opposing fliers with Feast of Unicorn was actually tense despite the slow format.
This would've never happened outside of quest mode as I'd never ever do a straight homelands draft (or think it made any sense), thanks a load for this.
The stuff does have internal sinergies and logics, with silly looking cards being in fact vital answers to other silly looking cards. Creature enchantments and Shrink were incredibly cool and scrambling to find answers to opposing fliers with Feast of Unicorn was actually tense despite the slow format.
This would've never happened outside of quest mode as I'd never ever do a straight homelands draft (or think it made any sense), thanks a load for this.
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