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In the past, we've typically decided not to include the "MTGO sets" as sets inside of Forge. I think part of this stems from the fact that we weren't trying to be an MTGO clone, we we were just trying to be a Magic (Card) Engine. Many of the cards in these extra sets appear in MTGO for a particular reason, they never really released these sets in MTGO, which is not a problem that Forge is restricted by. Now with the continual releases of sets (either the ones designed specifically for drafting, or just the ones designed to flood the market with unavailable cards), maybe it's time to ask the question if we should officially support these sets in Forge.

Feel free to vote in the poll, but I'm more looking for opinions and discussion.

Just for example there's Masters Edition 1-4 (mostly reprint sets), Vintage Masters (drafting), and the newly announced Tempest Remastered. Which is taking the Rath Cycle and condensing it down to a single draftable set.

Tempest Remastered is a 269-card set, containing 101 commons, 80 uncommons, 53 rares, 15 mythic rares, and 20 basic lands from the Tempest, Stronghold, and Exodus sets. Tempest Remastered will be available in booster pack form, with each booster retailing for $3.99. Each pack will contain the following:

10 commons
3 uncommons
1 rare or mythic rare
1 basic land

Each pack has a chance at a premium card replacing one of the common slots, with the same odds as other Magic booster packs.

I don't know that it's worth implementing the reprint sets, but ones designed for drafting sound like they would be useful for more tournament options in Quest mode.

ZzzzSleep wrote:I don't know that it's worth implementing the reprint sets, but ones designed for drafting sound like they would be useful for more tournament options in Quest mode.

I agree. Vintage Masters, and now Tempest Remastered, were designed with limited play as the core experience. For that reason alone, I think it's worth having them.

I think it's a good idea to add sets that offer functionality beyond being mere reprints - for instance, I vote for both Vintage Masters and Tempest Remastered to eventually become a part of Forge because they're designed with peculiar draft experience in mind that is unique to these sets (at least true for VMA, and as far as I understand Tempest Remastered is being made with a similar design goal).

- Agetian

Looks like the Spoilers for Tempest Restored is out:

http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/ar ... 2015-03-30

Hopefully they'll be out on Gatherer soon so it'll be easier to strip into an edition file.

Agetian wrote:I think it's a good idea to add sets that offer functionality beyond being mere reprints - for instance, I vote for both Vintage Masters and Tempest Remastered to eventually become a part of Forge because they're designed with peculiar draft experience in mind that is unique to these sets (at least true for VMA, and as far as I understand Tempest Remastered is being made with a similar design goal).

- Agetian

Seconding this. Vintage Masters and Tempest Remastered are draftable and interesting sets, it would be great if we could get them added in Booster Draft, Sealed, and as Quest Tournaments.

I'd appreciate these sets being added for quests, as well - as it stands, getting one's hands on a copy of Force of Will (which I've been attempting the past while) is painful. It can only be had from Alliances, and the only way to grind for it is by repeatedly spawning Ice Age tournaments (and have you drafted Ice Age? It's miserable) and hoping they turn out to be Ice Age/Alliances/Coldsnap.

extra quest draft formats are always welcome, as are extra opportunities to get certain cards

As someone who has created two MTGO cubes for Forge, I obviously support this inclusion.


Vintage Masters Cube
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Legacy Cube
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I love playing with them and created both to be playable in draft & sealed deck formats.

I'll continue to create these cubes whenever a new one is released as I have fun making them. I also get a good look at each card when I do so as it gives me a chance to evaluate the cards individually and as a whole to be better prepared to draft & play with them in the meta game that is produced for that specific set.