New quest decks

[Chris H.]

Bah, I hate power 9.

All 4 of those cards were replacements for the cards that were unuseable by the AI.
Obsessive Search was Preordain
Jace was the other Jace
Trip Noose was Tumble Magnet.
Dispel was Spell Pierce.

I wanted to keep the functionality as close as possible.

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It can be a challenge. I am facing a similar situation in trying to increase the difficulty of the Jack Sparrow 3 deck.

There may be deck themes that can not be made a tier 3 or 4 deck. Then again, there may be some themes that are hard to scale down to a tier 1 deck.

And in the end that may be OK. We may give it our best shot and then after the attempt was made decide that some decks will only work at one or two of the tiers.

[Corwin72]

Aquaman 1 and Aquaman 3

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Aquaman 1
[general]
constructed
[main]
1 Accorder Paladin
1 Caravan Escort
1 Cerulean Wyvern
1 Dromad Purebred
1 Elite Vanguard
1 Hada Spy Patrol
1 Ikiral Outrider
1 Jedit's Dragoons
1 Juggernaut
1 Kasimir the Lone Wolf
1 Kor Cartographer
1 Kor Hookmaster
1 Sejiri Merfolk
1 Skywatcher Adept
1 Snapping Drake
2 Soul's Attendant
1 Spiritual Guardian
1 Tobias Andrion
1 Vizzerdrix
1 Wall of Frost
1 Wall of Hope
1 Wild Griffin
1 Armored Ascension
1 Arrest
1 Condemn
1 Drake Umbra
1 Flayer Husk
1 Guard Duty
1 Inspired Charge
1 Into the Roil
1 Journey to Nowhere
1 Pitfall Trap
1 Shared Discovery
1 Unsummon
1 Warlord's Axe
1 Dread Statuary
11 Island
11 Plains
1 Sejiri Refuge
[sideboard]

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Aquaman 3
[general]
constructed
[main]
4 Baneslayer Angel
1 Linvala, Keeper of Silence
4 Squadron Hawk
4 Stoneforge Mystic
4 Absorb
1 Bribery
4 Counterspell
4 Day of Judgment
1 Jace Beleren
4 Repulse
1 Standstill
2 Sword of Feast and Famine
1 Arid Mesa
4 Celestial Colonnade
2 Glacial Fortress
5 Island
5 Plains
1 Scalding Tarn
4 Seachrome Coast
4 Tectonic Edge
[sideboard]

Thoughts?

[Corwin72]

Ash 3

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Ash 3
[general]
constructed
[main]
4 Divinity of Pride
2 Felidar Sovereign
4 Gwyllion Hedge-Mage
4 Serra Ascendant
4 Voracious Hatchling
1 Elspeth Tirel
4 Gerrard's Verdict
4 Honor of the Pure
1 Liliana Vess
4 Swords to Plowshares
4 Vindicate
3 Arcane Sanctum
1 Emeria, the Sky Ruin
4 Marsh Flats
12 Plains
4 Swamp
[sideboard]

Thoughts?

[Chris H.]

Corwin, I downloaded your decks and get back to you later.

[Sloth]

Aquaman 1 and Aquaman 3

I have added them along with a modified version of Aquaman 2. Thanks Corwin.

[Sloth]

Ash 3
Thoughts?

Fetchlands, Liliana Vess and Gwyllion Hedge-Mage don't fit the theme.

Possible additions: Souls of the Faultless, Kabira Crossroads, maybe Soul Link.

Swords to Plowshares and Vindicate are strong, even though the AI may use them too early. To further push the theme, maybe you can replace some of them with: Solemn Offering, Terashi's Grasp, Sever Soul or Exile.

[Corwin72]

Fetchlands just make every deck more competitive.
Liliana Vess was there for lategame.
Gwyllion Hedge-Mage was a midgame card that can be replaced.
I thought that it might give some diversification to the deck.

The additions seem really weak for a level 3 deck.
I looked at the crossroads for a while but coming in to play tapped could just cause too many problems.

[Sloth]

Fetchlands just make every deck more competitive.
Liliana Vess was there for lategame.
Gwyllion Hedge-Mage was a midgame card that can be replaced.
I thought that it might give some diversification to the deck.

The additions seem really weak for a level 3 deck.
I looked at the crossroads for a while but coming in to play tapped could just cause too many problems.

Maybe this can become a tier 2 deck?

EDIT: I just noticed Standstill in Aquaman 3. The AI will just trigger it without a blink. Can I replace it with some spot removal?

[Corwin72]

Sure. I was going for card draw that was cheap.

[Chris H.]

Aquaman 3 has a Standstill. I do not believe that the AI will check to see if there is a Standstill in play before it casts a spell. You may want to look for a replacement for this card.

A few Standstill spells in a tier 1 deck might be OK as this could help to tone down a deck which otherwise would be too strong for a tier 1 deck.


Oh, I see the two of you noticed the same thing.

[Corwin72]

Here is a GW level 2 deck that I came up with. It might be level 1. It is kind of weak.

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[general]
constructed
[main]
3 Ancient Spider
3 Bant Sureblade
3 Centaur Safeguard
3 Kitchen Finks
3 Leonin Armorguard
3 Messenger Falcons
3 Naya Hushblade
1 Armadillo Cloak
1 Aura Shards
1 Behemoth Sledge
1 Condemn
1 Crystallization
1 Hoofprints of the Stag
1 Naturalize
1 Oust
1 Path to Exile
1 Rampant Growth
1 Serra's Blessing
1 Shield of the Oversoul
1 Sigil Blessing
1 Sigil of the Nayan Gods
1 Sunlance
4 Elfhame Palace
6 Forest
4 Grasslands
4 Graypelt Refuge
6 Plains
[sideboard]

Thoughts?

[Sloth]

Here is a GW level 2 deck that I came up with. It might be level 1. It is kind of weak.
Thoughts?

This is a fine level 2 deck Corwin, well done!

A level 3 deck of the same opponent could have cards like:
Wilt-Leaf Liege
Safehold Duo
Oversoul of Dusk
Wilt-Leaf Cavaliers

[Chris H.]

Here is a GW level 2 deck that I came up with. It might be level 1.

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I play tested the GW 2 deck and enjoyed the deck. A nice design.

What should we call this deck. The third message in this topic has an archive with some unassigned icon pics. We could use one of them.

[Corwin72]

Black White Deck that revolves around Tempered Steel.

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[general]
constructed
[main]
4 Memnite
4 Ornithopter
4 Signal Pest
4 Steel Overseer
3 Ajani Goldmane
4 Glint Hawk Idol
4 Go for the Throat
4 Master's Call
3 Mox Opal
4 Tempered Steel
4 Contested War Zone
4 Glimmerpost
11 Plains
3 Swamp
[sideboard]

In testing I am not sure that Contested War Zone is being used correctly by the AI.

[Corwin72]

Possible Medium WUB deck
It is rare heavy but I think that it shows promise.

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WUBMed
[general]
constructed
[main]
2 Augury Adept
1 Azorius First-Wing
1 Azorius Guildmage
1 Benthic Djinn
1 Deft Duelist
2 Dimir Cutpurse
2 Dimir Guildmage
1 Ghastlord of Fugue
2 Glen Elendra Liege
2 Shadowmage Infiltrator
2 Wasp Lancer
2 Zur the Enchanter
2 Absorb
2 Agony Warp
2 Brilliant Ultimatum
1 Dire Undercurrents
2 Mortify
1 Pillory of the Sleepless
2 Punish Ignorance
1 Steel of the Godhead
2 Undermine
2 Vindicate
4 Arcane Sanctum
4 Esper Panorama
6 Island
4 Plains
6 Swamp
[sideboard]