New quest decks

[Sloth]

Darkseid 2

Is this too much for a level 2?

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Darkseid 2
[general]
constructed
[main]
24 Swamp
4 Aphetto Exterminator
4 Cabal Executioner
4 Grinning Demon
4 Headhunter
3 Silent Specter
4 Skinthinner
4 Soul Collector
2 Damnation
3 Overwhelming Forces
4 Wrench Mind
[sideboard]

I think the AI won't use morph abilities at instand speed (i.e. when unblocked). It's hard for me to determine the difficulty (but it doesn't look too hard).

EDIT: Added your UB deck as Kang 3.

[Corwin72]

I missed your response and added the second UB deck.

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Kang 2
[general]
constructed
[main]
2 Benthic Djinn
2 Dimir Cutpurse
2 Dimir Infiltrator
2 Esper Stormblade
2 Ghastlord of Fugue
2 Glen Elendra Liege
2 Gravelgill Duo
2 Grixis Grimblade
2 Inkfathom Infiltrator
2 Moroii
2 Shadowmage Infiltrator
2 Tidehollow Strix
2 Urborg Drake
2 Vodalian Zombie
2 Wasp Lancer
2 Dire Undercurrents
2 Recoil
2 Undermine
4 Darkslick Shores
4 Drowned Catacomb
8 Island
8 Swamp
[sideboard]

I will try to play against the Darkseid deck. I would like to see how the AI plays it.

[Corwin72]

I am too lazy to look up the icon for Wally.
What is it? Wally West Flash?

[Sloth]

I am too lazy to look up the icon for Wally.
What is it? Wally West Flash?

Chris already has one I think.

PS: I've added your Kang 2 deck.

[Corwin72]

You made me do it.
I used this link:
http://www.mediafire.com/?sye1yeg6ep9jgql
to check the current icons.
That link was from the most recent update 4/22/2011.
I could not find one called Wally.

[Sloth]

You made me do it.
I used this link:
http://www.mediafire.com/?sye1yeg6ep9jgql
to check the current icons.
That link was from the most recent update 4/22/2011.
I could not find one called Wally.

See this post: viewtopic.php?f=48&t=4458#p57949

[Corwin72]

Thanks. I should have checked the OP

[Corwin72]

Thoughts on Vampire 3?

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Vampire 3
[general]
constructed
[main]
4 Bloodghast
3 Vampire Nocturnus
4 Gatekeeper of Malakir
4 Kalastria Highborn
4 Pulse Tracker
2 Vampire Hexmage
4 Vampire Lacerator
3 Feast of Blood
3 Arc Trail
2 Burst Lightning
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Blackcleave Cliffs
4 Dragonskull Summit
3 Lavaclaw Reaches
3 Marsh Flats
7 Swamp
2 Verdant Catacombs
[sideboard]

Edit: Replace Captivating Vampire with Vampire Nocturnus.
AI can not use Captivating Vampire's ability. Program will freeze.

[Sloth]

Thoughts on Vampire 3?

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Vampire 3
[general]
constructed
[main]
4 Bloodghast
3 Captivating Vampire
4 Gatekeeper of Malakir
4 Kalastria Highborn
4 Pulse Tracker
2 Vampire Hexmage
4 Vampire Lacerator
3 Feast of Blood
3 Arc Trail
2 Burst Lightning
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Blackcleave Cliffs
4 Dragonskull Summit
3 Lavaclaw Reaches
3 Marsh Flats
7 Swamp
2 Verdant Catacombs
[sideboard]

Mmh, there's not much synergy between the red cards and the vampires other than getting the opponent to less than 10 life, which is something the AI can't forsee - it will use lightning bolt mostly to kill creatures when the Player is high on life.
And we already have a mono black vampire deck: Bela Lugosi 3.
And I think I remember hearing about some AI problems with Arc Trail.

[Chris H.]

I am too lazy to look up the icon for Wally.
What is it? Wally West Flash?

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I included several icons from the Dilbert comic strip. I think that Wally is one of them. The third message in this topic contains an archive with a number of unused icons from you and me.

[Corwin72]

Mmh, there's not much synergy between the red cards and the vampires other than getting the opponent to less than 10 life, which is something the AI can't forsee - it will use lightning bolt mostly to kill creatures when the Player is high on life.
And we already have a mono black vampire deck: Bela Lugosi 3.
And I think I remember hearing about some AI problems with Arc Trail.

I was looking for a faster vampire deck that could burn you out after the initial rush.

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Bela Lugosi 3
[general]
constructed
[main]
4 Vampire Nocturnus
3 Anowon, the Ruin Sage
4 Malakir Bloodwitch
2 Child of Night
22 Swamp
1 Mox Jet
4 Vampire Nighthawk
4 Bloodghast
4 Ruthless Cullblade
4 Guul Draz Vampire
4 Guul Draz Assassin
4 Go for the Throat
[sideboard]

Bela Lugosi 3 seemed like much more of a mid range deck than the Vampire 3. I wanted to showcase some of the newer cards. Boo.
Vampire Nocturnus does make it closer to the Bela deck.

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Vampire 3
[general]
constructed
[main]
4 Bloodghast
3 Arrogant Bloodlord
4 Gatekeeper of Malakir
4 Kalastria Highborn
4 Pulse Tracker
2 Vampire Hexmage
4 Vampire Lacerator
3 Feast of Blood
2 Terminate
3 Burst Lightning
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Blackcleave Cliffs
4 Dragonskull Summit
3 Lavaclaw Reaches
3 Marsh Flats
7 Swamp
2 Verdant Catacombs
[sideboard]

Better or still too close to the other deck?
The only card that the decks now share is Bloodghast.

[Chris H.]

Bela Lugosi 3 seemed like much more of a mid range deck than the Vampire 3. I wanted to showcase some of the newer cards. Boo.
Vampire Nocturnus does make it closer to the Bela deck.

`

Better or still too close to the other deck?
The only card that the decks now share is Bloodghast.

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What if we tone Bela Lugosi 3 down somewhat to a level 2 deck? I like the idea of having a medium and a hard Vampire deck.

We may not want to have two level 3 Vampire decks, but we should have enough cards now to put together a few tribal decks using other types of creatures.

[Sloth]

Bela Lugosi 3 seemed like much more of a mid range deck than the Vampire 3. I wanted to showcase some of the newer cards. Boo.
Vampire Nocturnus does make it closer to the Bela deck.

`

Better or still too close to the other deck?
The only card that the decks now share is Bloodghast.

`
What if we tone Bela Lugosi 3 down somewhat to a level 2 deck? I like the idea of having a medium and a hard Vampire deck.

We may not want to have two level 3 Vampire decks, but we should have enough cards now to put together a few tribal decks using other types of creatures.

Yes, maybe you can try to make Bela Lugosi 3 more challenging and make a medium deck with less powerful vampire stuff. I'm not a vampire expert.

For comparison here is a version of lazylockie:

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Bela Lugosi 3
[general]
constructed
[main]
4 Verdant Catacombs
4 Marsh Flats
15 Swamp
1 Mox Jet
4 Vampire Nocturnus
4 Vampire Nighthawk
4 Bloodghast
4 Vampire Lacerator
4 Gatekeeper of Malakir
4 Go for the Throat
4 Sign in Blood
3 Malakir Bloodwitch
3 Guul Draz Assassin
2 Anowon, the Ruin Sage
[sideboard]


[Corwin72]

Both decks seem solid to me.
I guess I am from the school of more is better.
My vote would be to keep them both since they feature different cards and strategy. The more decks the better. As long as you are not repeating the same deck. We have more than one White deck Knights(King Arthur) and Soldiers(Blackbeard). Who cares if two decks feature the same tribe if they play differently.

And now for something completely different, here is a UW deck. I think that it is underpowered for level 3.
Thoughts?

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[general]
constructed
[main]
4 Augury Adept
4 Deft Duelist
4 Esper Cormorants
4 Pride of the Clouds
4 Sky Hussar
4 Thistledown Liege
4 Absorb
4 Curse of Chains
4 Steel of the Godhead
4 Celestial Colonnade
4 Glacial Fortress
6 Island
6 Plains
4 Seachrome Coast
[sideboard]

[Corwin72]

Speaking of King Arthur,
Are these decks too close?

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White Knight 3
[general]
constructed
[main]
4 Accorder Paladin
4 Hero of Bladehold
4 Knight Exemplar
4 Leonin Skyhunter
4 Mirran Crusader
4 Student of Warfare
3 White Knight
2 Ajani Goldmane
3 Elspeth Tirel
4 Honor of the Pure
4 Emeria, the Sky Ruin
20 Plains
[sideboard]

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White Knight 2
[general]
constructed
[main]
1 Augury Adept
1 Auriok Champion
1 Baneslayer Angel
1 Crovax, Ascendant Hero
1 Emeria Angel
1 Eternal Dragon
1 Glory
1 Intrepid Hero
1 Isamaru, Hound of Konda
1 Kemba, Kha Regent
1 Knight of the White Orchid
1 Mirror Entity
1 Raksha Golden Cub
1 Reveillark
1 Serra Ascendant
1 Serra Avenger
1 Spectral Lynx
1 Stoneforge Mystic
1 Student of Warfare
1 Sun Titan
1 Tivadar of Thorn
1 Transcendent Master
1 Ajani Goldmane
1 Basilisk Collar
1 Crusade
1 Day of Judgment
1 Elspeth Tirel
1 Honor of the Pure
1 Hoofprints of the Stag
1 Martial Coup
1 Scepter of Dominance
1 Sword of Body and Mind
1 Sword of Fire and Ice
1 Sword of Light and Shadow
1 Umezawa's Jitte
1 Wrath of God
24 Plains
[sideboard]

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White Knight 1
[general]
constructed
[main]
4 Saltblast
24 Plains
4 Caravan Escort
3 Knight of Meadowgrain
3 Veteran Cavalier
3 Kabira Vindicator
4 Lionheart Maverick
4 Youthful Knight
4 Path to Exile
2 Knight of Cliffhaven
2 Knight Errant
3 Benalish Cavalry
[sideboard]