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Multiplayer dueling

Postby Yaki » 17 Oct 2009, 13:24

Hello all,

My (not real) name is Yaki and I'm new to this forum but not to MTG :D

There's almost no interest in this forum for online play of Manalink 2.0.

When the game is installed it can't be played online because there is no green gem shown. I know that there is a multiplayer wiki but it's really not necessary to go trough all the steps there (http://www.slightlymagic.net/wiki/Multiplayer_Dueling).

I figured out what is wrong and why it works only with MP wiki :D

When following the usual tutorial (http://www.slightlymagic.net/wiki/Installation) there are no settings imported to Windows registry and that's why the gem don't show up. But it's playable in multilayer indeed.. All you have to do is save this text:

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Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\MicroProse]

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\MicroProse\Magic: The Gathering]
"manalink"="on"

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\MicroProse\Magic: The Gathering\DeckBuilderOptions]
"Consolidate"="1"
"Music"="1"
"Effects"="1"
"ExpandTextOnBigCard"="0"

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\MicroProse\Magic: The Gathering\MultiOptions]
"DeckMinimum"="60"
"DeckType"="3"
"PlayerDeck"="Creature Creature Everywhere"
"PlayerRandom"="0"
"BestOf"="5"
"FreePlay"="5"
"Ante"="1"
"AllowSideboarding"="0"
into magic.reg and run it. And voilla.. the gem shows up without going trough painfull process on the multiplayer wiki.

MP wiki works because you first have to install Manalink 123 which imports the registry key automatically.

So.. what am I suggesting? :) Add pasted registry key to Manalink 2.0 zips and delete the unnecessary MP wiki which only confuses people.

If I'm inventing hot water, please.. no hard fealings :) I'm willing to contribute and make the necessery changes to wiki.

Another thing.. multiplayer is working just fine over the Internet with Hamachi zeroconf VPN client. It would be great to popularize Manalink 2.0 for online play because it has rules enforcement. I'm willing to open and administer an IRC channel for that purpose. People could meet there and easily find opponents.

What do you think? There's no reason to play (for me) the best MTG video game and not to use multiplayer (which is playable).

The only bug I encountered is that sometimes both players get "Waiting for opponent" and the connection breaks (but we haven't tested it further as one of us was playing trough virtual machine so maybe it wasn't a real bug :D )
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Re: Multiplayer dueling

Postby drekonja » 17 Oct 2009, 17:54

I think this is a great idea. This game is so underrated compared to its expensive (magic online) and no rules (workstation) counterparts. While is very fun to play also against computer, it gets dull over time and you want to play against specific decks, which AI is not really able to handle. Also I hardly find someone who could play with me.

But this game doesn't seem to be stable much, it gets a lot of disconnects and crashes. I wonder if that could be fixed to some degree to see more competitive gameplay.
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Re: Multiplayer dueling

Postby Yaki » 17 Oct 2009, 20:06

Totally agree with the first part :D

I remember playing the original game (DotP) with a friend on LAN few years ago. Worked like a charm if both stations were the same OS (Win98).

We played new Manalink 2.0 a few days ago over VPN - both Windows XP. No crashes.. but from about 8 duels - 2 got disconnected and we both got a message "Waiting for opponent..". He got one other message too.. I didn't write it down. BUT. My XP was inside Virtualbox on Linux, HAMACHI was inside VM too. So I suspect it could be related. Also, we didn't have the right settings in the Manalink.ini (somehow it worked automagicaly without entering the right IP - only the port was set correctly - 27500).

Maybe there are some small glitches that could be avoided with the right combination of OS and settings (XP on both sides is a must - maybe Win7 could do also).

I'll open an IRC channel and post the relevant info so all who are interested could test the game these days :D
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Re: Multiplayer dueling

Postby drekonja » 18 Oct 2009, 11:22

You played 2.0 with jattil's cards or plain 2.0? I played this game with a friend about year ago, it crashed sometimes, with 2.0 more often that 1.32. However recently I tried this newest updates with another friend, it always froze before we could finish.
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Re: Multiplayer dueling

Postby sture » 18 Oct 2009, 14:00

Yaki wrote:Hello all,

My (not real) name is Yaki and I'm new to this forum but not to MTG :D

There's almost no interest in this forum for online play of Manalink 2.0.

When the game is installed it can't be played online because there is no green gem shown. I know that there is a multiplayer wiki but it's really not necessary to go trough all the steps there (http://www.slightlymagic.net/wiki/Multiplayer_Dueling).

I figured out what is wrong and why it works only with MP wiki :D

When following the usual tutorial (http://www.slightlymagic.net/wiki/Installation) there are no settings imported to Windows registry and that's why the gem don't show up. But it's playable in multilayer indeed.. All you have to do is save this text:

Code: Select all
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\MicroProse]

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\MicroProse\Magic: The Gathering]
"manalink"="on"

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\MicroProse\Magic: The Gathering\DeckBuilderOptions]
"Consolidate"="1"
"Music"="1"
"Effects"="1"
"ExpandTextOnBigCard"="0"

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\MicroProse\Magic: The Gathering\MultiOptions]
"DeckMinimum"="60"
"DeckType"="3"
"PlayerDeck"="Creature Creature Everywhere"
"PlayerRandom"="0"
"BestOf"="5"
"FreePlay"="5"
"Ante"="1"
"AllowSideboarding"="0"
into magic.reg and run it. And voilla.. the gem shows up without going trough painfull process on the multiplayer wiki.

MP wiki works because you first have to install Manalink 123 which imports the registry key automatically.

So.. what am I suggesting? :) Add pasted registry key to Manalink 2.0 zips and delete the unnecessary MP wiki which only confuses people.

If I'm inventing hot water, please.. no hard fealings :) I'm willing to contribute and make the necessery changes to wiki.

Another thing.. multiplayer is working just fine over the Internet with Hamachi zeroconf VPN client. It would be great to popularize Manalink 2.0 for online play because it has rules enforcement. I'm willing to open and administer an IRC channel for that purpose. People could meet there and easily find opponents.

What do you think? There's no reason to play (for me) the best MTG video game and not to use multiplayer (which is playable).

The only bug I encountered is that sometimes both players get "Waiting for opponent" and the connection breaks (but we haven't tested it further as one of us was playing trough virtual machine so maybe it wasn't a real bug :D )
Thank you Yaki! Please edit the Wiki.

Oh, an Salbei has already created an IRC channel. It's #manalink on Quakenet.

Cheers,
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Re: Multiplayer dueling

Postby Salbei » 18 Oct 2009, 17:33

sture and me are currently playing (just seems to work with hamachi)

irc:quakenet-> #manalink
hamachi: manalink pw:manalink

we are playing with version 20091014
use the registry thing + don´t forgot to adjust your manalink.ini
then join on hamachi (latest version)
-> use tcp/ip to connect with the manalink gem ... and enter the hamachi IP of your opponent you want to play with. thats pretty much it

feel free to join up.
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Re: Multiplayer dueling

Postby Yaki » 18 Oct 2009, 21:07

Nice to see things rolling. :D

Sure sture - we will use Salbeis chanell.

I'll update the multiplayer WIKI tonight (if I don't go to sleep or join for a duel) :D
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Re: Multiplayer dueling

Postby Yaki » 19 Oct 2009, 00:12

Multiplayer wiki is updated:

http://www.slightlymagic.net/wiki/Multiplayer_Dueling

As Salbei pointed out - place to find new players is an IRC server irc.quakenet.org, channel #manalink.

You can also use a webchat: http://webchat.quakenet.org

It's all mentioned on the wiki.

Enjoy and please post bugs / disconnets :D
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Re: Multiplayer dueling

Postby stassy » 19 Oct 2009, 11:16

Rapidshare links for original installation is broken

http://www.slightlymagic.net/wiki/Installation

I think the wiki truncated the links
Microprose MTG Mok's Manalink 2.0 Version.part1.rar (92.77 MB)
http://www.mediafire.com/?dnguzumjmnm -or-
http://rapidshare.com/files/246800006/M ... .part1.rar

Microprose MTG Mok's Manalink 2.0 Version.part2.rar (91.76 MB)
http://www.mediafire.com/?jzmoel4hjam -or-
http://rapidshare.com/files/246813917/M ... .part2.rar
The RS link is really
http://rapidshare.com/files/246800006/M
lol

Also in MP mode, how do you edit/register your name?
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Re: Multiplayer dueling

Postby Yaki » 19 Oct 2009, 12:50

stassy wrote:Rapidshare links for original installation is broken

http://www.slightlymagic.net/wiki/Installation

[...]

Also in MP mode, how do you edit/register your name?
Links are fixed! :D

Name can be changed on the Player button at the bottom (in the main magic menu). You have to add a new player (basic one can't be changed). Character look can be modified with button Tools-> Face builder.
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Re: Multiplayer dueling

Postby sture » 19 Oct 2009, 14:17

Yaki wrote:Multiplayer wiki is updated:
Thank you Yaki!
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Re: Multiplayer dueling

Postby stassy » 19 Oct 2009, 14:29

Thanks for the fix!

Another problem rise:

* Now run your "Magic.exe" again.

* Right-click on the "gem" and choose "Open". In the "Choose a connection type:"-tab, choose Internet (TCP/IP) and click "Connect". Choose "Host". Now there has to appear a message on the top of the screen "Screen name 'your Player Name' has automatically been created on your local area network." In the Status-window of Manalink there should be your "Player Name" and the "Status" should be "Available". In the "gem" there should be the word "NET" now.

* "Join" the host by entering its ip. After the two players appear in the status window (perhaps you have to push the "Refresh" button to see the other player).

* One of you must select the other's name from the list and click the "Invite" button.

* Now your opponent has to double-click on the invitation in the message window and click "Accept".

* After the acceptance select a deck. Both players are now registered as opponents.

* The two players now have to click on "Duel Opponent" in the Magic main menu.

* Now set the Match Parameters for the duel. Click on "Send Parameters" to submit the parameters to your opponent.

* "Agree" with the parameters.

* Now the match should begin.
Nothing happen when I click on the "accept invitation" window which close and Manalink stay still on the main menu, should there be a new pop up window that would open?

Edit : Ok I have my opponent registered but in the Magic menu I still have no registered opponent, where should I choose my deck since it's greyed out?
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Re: Multiplayer dueling

Postby Yaki » 19 Oct 2009, 17:23

stassy wrote:Thanks for the fix!

Another problem rise:

Nothing happen when I click on the "accept invitation" window which close and Manalink stay still on the main menu, should there be a new pop up window that would open?

Edit : Ok I have my opponent registered but in the Magic menu I still have no registered opponent, where should I choose my deck since it's greyed out?
After you accept the invitation - close the Manalink window and click the Duel button in the main Magic window. Choose Duel opponent option and you should be able to choose a deck and send / accept parameters.
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Re: Multiplayer dueling

Postby jatill » 19 Oct 2009, 17:56

What does the quakenet thing mean for IRC? I'm not an experienced IRC user.

Edit: to answer my own question, you need to change the server you connect to

idsoftware.ca.us.quakenet.org
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Re: Multiplayer dueling

Postby stassy » 19 Oct 2009, 18:05

Thanks yaki for the online help and the test match, it work good :D

Got 2 errors msg when yaki resigned on the test match before game crash :

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jatill> It's quite simple thanks to IRC internet browser applet, just go to the link provided :
http://webchat.quakenet.org/
The main page will ask you for a nickname and a channel, just enter your nickname and use the channel manalink and you will be ported into it
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