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Quick question
by lujo » 08 Nov 2015, 02:12
How do I edit the properties of individual creatures? What do I need to download to be able to do this? (I downloaded the source code, what do I "build" it with after I edited something?)
I need to edit all the white and red centaurs to be castable in the pre-combat main phase. Or otherwise find out which creatures besides ones with Haste are set to be played in the pre-combat main phase. How do I do this?
I need to edit all the white and red centaurs to be castable in the pre-combat main phase. Or otherwise find out which creatures besides ones with Haste are set to be played in the pre-combat main phase. How do I do this?
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Re: Quick question
by Korath » 11 Nov 2015, 19:58
Edit /magic_updater/ct_all.csv, copy magic.exe into that directory and run "ct2exe ct_all.csv" to inject the new data into it, and move magic.exe back into your installation's root directory where Shandalar.dll looks for it.
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Re: Quick question
by lujo » 12 Nov 2015, 12:14
Thanks for the instructions, but I don't seem to have magic_updater anywhere. And I can't find where you get it 
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Re: Quick question
by Aswan jaguar » 12 Nov 2015, 15:46
I made a simple patch you may want to test a bit.It enables all creatures to be played by AI also before combat or only before combat for those that were set like this before.
Remember to back up the 4 files this changes so if you don't like it you can easily insert the originals back.
Then overwrite everything as usual to your main magic folder.
I did test this once with some constructed decks and with draft play and AI was generally better IMHO in manalink3-0.Of course you can expect worse AI decisions while playing certain decks (creatures with bloodthirst ability).
I deleted the file for the moment at least, as it corrupted Shandalar.
To whomever downloaded don't use it.or use it and let me know if it breaks Shandalar as I made some other changes to my version not the one I attached so it probably this is fine.
Remember to back up the 4 files this changes so if you don't like it you can easily insert the originals back.
Then overwrite everything as usual to your main magic folder.
I did test this once with some constructed decks and with draft play and AI was generally better IMHO in manalink3-0.Of course you can expect worse AI decisions while playing certain decks (creatures with bloodthirst ability).
To whomever downloaded don't use it.or use it and let me know if it breaks Shandalar as I made some other changes to my version not the one I attached so it probably this is fine.
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values for creatures on 1st combat.RAR- reuploaded has to be fine
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Trying to squash some bugs and playtesting.
Trying to squash some bugs and playtesting.
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Re: Quick question
by Korath » 12 Nov 2015, 17:45
It's part of the Manalink installation.lujo wrote:Thanks for the instructions, but I don't seem to have magic_updater anywhere. And I can't find where you get it
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Re: Quick question
by lujo » 12 Nov 2015, 17:56
Er, it's nowhere in any of the folders I run Manalink and Shandalar with? Maybe I used some manalink instalation which doesn't come with it? (I used the one from Cirith Ungol's google drive).
@Aswan Jaguar: ty, but I do need the updater, I don't want to fiddle with a global setting because I know what setting everything to play pre-combat would do to too many things, but I can see why the AI might've seemed to play better. It's set to be unable to play a million things properly right now. And by that I mean "set to completely missplay to the point of insanity". So allowing everything to be played before combat would, besides messing some stuff up, basically make it all of a sudden able to play a million things at all. But I don't want to mess the other stuff up or cause unforseen concequences (I mean you guys must've had a very good reason to make the AI unable to play so many things in the first place, right? Whatever was the tradeoff I don't wan't to globally undo it, but rather very carefully and selectively.)
With the updater I can actually script particular cards to be played right in particular decks, provided my deckpack is used (and I bundle the exe with it ofc), since the properly scripted cards won't be in other types of decks.
So, um, anyone know of a manalink download which has it? And whatever else comes with it?
@Aswan Jaguar: ty, but I do need the updater, I don't want to fiddle with a global setting because I know what setting everything to play pre-combat would do to too many things, but I can see why the AI might've seemed to play better. It's set to be unable to play a million things properly right now. And by that I mean "set to completely missplay to the point of insanity". So allowing everything to be played before combat would, besides messing some stuff up, basically make it all of a sudden able to play a million things at all. But I don't want to mess the other stuff up or cause unforseen concequences (I mean you guys must've had a very good reason to make the AI unable to play so many things in the first place, right? Whatever was the tradeoff I don't wan't to globally undo it, but rather very carefully and selectively.)
With the updater I can actually script particular cards to be played right in particular decks, provided my deckpack is used (and I bundle the exe with it ofc), since the properly scripted cards won't be in other types of decks.
So, um, anyone know of a manalink download which has it? And whatever else comes with it?
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Leave feedback on particular decks here: Google doc
Ask for instructions, give feedback and complaints here: Thread
My Shandalar deck pack folder is avaliable here:Dropbox
Leave feedback on particular decks here: Google doc
Ask for instructions, give feedback and complaints here: Thread
Re: Quick question
by BlueTemplar » 12 Nov 2015, 18:30
I have it in my Manalink 3.0 "install" (that I keep separate from this new Shandalar), I got it from the first archive on the "official" thread :
viewtopic.php?f=55&t=6401
viewtopic.php?f=55&t=6401
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Re: Quick question
by lujo » 12 Nov 2015, 19:32
Lol, thank you very much! This ought to do wonders for my awful bug reporting, too ^^
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Leave feedback on particular decks here: Google doc
Ask for instructions, give feedback and complaints here: Thread
My Shandalar deck pack folder is avaliable here:Dropbox
Leave feedback on particular decks here: Google doc
Ask for instructions, give feedback and complaints here: Thread
Re: Quick question
by lujo » 13 Nov 2015, 07:02
After reading through the forums a lot, I noticed a post by Korath thanking somebody for listing all their steps and problems instead of just going "I did what you sadi it doesn't work whine whine". Let's try that, here's what I've done so far:
1) I downloaded manalink 3.0 Journey into Nyx update 2014-05-06 by Ozks from the above link in Blue Templars post (viewtopic.php?f=55&t=6401)
2) I made a separate folder for it.
3) It has ct2exe in the main program folder, but not the csv. It has a magic_updater folder where it has both. I didn't edit anything, but I just ran it to see what happens (using cmd, as Korath instructed ct2exe ct_all.csv)
4) This just produced a message in the cmd
"ERROR parsing CT csv file! (0xffb62371)
and filled the ERRORS.txt with:
Step 5) I tried using csv2dat to see what happens, this created a cards.dat, DBinfo.dat and Rarity.dat.
Step 6) Then I figured that I'm supposed to use Magic_updater.bat, and this resulted in those 3 disappearing and appearing in the updated_files folder.
Step 7) moving these to the actual Nomad's Bazar would make no sense because it's an older manalink update, but I tried anyway, and it crashed the game (couldn't start, million errors). This made sense to me.
Step
I updated the manalink instalating with... some?... Fate Reforged update which also had magic_updated bundled with it. No idea where I found it (was in my downloads folder somehow). This actually worked, rand the thing that extracts the 3 files from the exe (I guess?), ran magic updater, got the stuff, stuck it into the nomads bazaar folder and it the game runs.
Then I edited something that would make one of my decks actually work properly, and it works. Both the editing and my deck.
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So now I have an important question: How do I make sure that the ct_all.csv I'm editing is the current one? If I want to experiment with AI fixes and scripting this way, I don't want to mess anything esle up by editing an outdated csv which would mess other things up?
And another one: Why ARE so many creatures set to be played only after combat?
1) I downloaded manalink 3.0 Journey into Nyx update 2014-05-06 by Ozks from the above link in Blue Templars post (viewtopic.php?f=55&t=6401)
2) I made a separate folder for it.
3) It has ct2exe in the main program folder, but not the csv. It has a magic_updater folder where it has both. I didn't edit anything, but I just ran it to see what happens (using cmd, as Korath instructed ct2exe ct_all.csv)
4) This just produced a message in the cmd
"ERROR parsing CT csv file! (0xffb62371)
and filled the ERRORS.txt with:
- ERRORS.txt | Open
Step 5) I tried using csv2dat to see what happens, this created a cards.dat, DBinfo.dat and Rarity.dat.
Step 6) Then I figured that I'm supposed to use Magic_updater.bat, and this resulted in those 3 disappearing and appearing in the updated_files folder.
Step 7) moving these to the actual Nomad's Bazar would make no sense because it's an older manalink update, but I tried anyway, and it crashed the game (couldn't start, million errors). This made sense to me.
Step
I updated the manalink instalating with... some?... Fate Reforged update which also had magic_updated bundled with it. No idea where I found it (was in my downloads folder somehow). This actually worked, rand the thing that extracts the 3 files from the exe (I guess?), ran magic updater, got the stuff, stuck it into the nomads bazaar folder and it the game runs.Then I edited something that would make one of my decks actually work properly, and it works. Both the editing and my deck.
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So now I have an important question: How do I make sure that the ct_all.csv I'm editing is the current one? If I want to experiment with AI fixes and scripting this way, I don't want to mess anything esle up by editing an outdated csv which would mess other things up?
And another one: Why ARE so many creatures set to be played only after combat?
---
My Shandalar deck pack folder is avaliable here:Dropbox
Leave feedback on particular decks here: Google doc
Ask for instructions, give feedback and complaints here: Thread
My Shandalar deck pack folder is avaliable here:Dropbox
Leave feedback on particular decks here: Google doc
Ask for instructions, give feedback and complaints here: Thread
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