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C[confirmed]Static Orb can untap cards w/ don't untap effect

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C[confirmed]Static Orb can untap cards w/ don't untap effect

Postby stassy » 23 May 2014, 11:40

Describe the Bug:
Static Orb can untap cards under "don't untap" effect

Which card did behave improperly ?
Static Orb

Which update are you using?(date,name)Which type(Duel,Gauntlet,Sealed Deck)
2014/05/06: Journey into Nyx

What exactly should be the correct behavior/interaction ?
Static Orb cannot untap cards under "don't untap" effect

Are any other cards possibly affected by this bug ?
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Not sure about the ruling, but here is an example :

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There is a Marble Titan, a Static Stone and a Meekstone in bf, at untap step I can untap Kozilek, Butcher of Truth even though he is not supposed to be untappable.
If I follow the rules, I should only be allowed to untap cards that are allowed to be untapped (creature with less than 3 toughness)...
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Re: [confirmed]Static Orb can untap cards w/ don't untap eff

Postby BAgate » 23 May 2014, 21:03

Also applies to such effects as Ajani Vengeant 's +1 ability.
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Re: [confirmed]Static Orb can untap cards w/ don't untap eff

Postby Gargaroz » 02 Jun 2014, 12:28

Code completely revamped in dd68507, should be fine now.
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Re: [still bugg]Static Orb can untap cards w/ don't untap ef

Postby BAgate » 12 Oct 2014, 07:43

Can still untap permanents that shouldn't untap.

tested on frost titan's effect on a land (untapped) and Frost Titan untapping when a Meekstone was in play
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Re: [still bugg]Static Orb can untap cards w/ don't untap ef

Postby Gargaroz » 31 Oct 2014, 20:40

It's another global bug fixe in 411d905
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Re: [still bugg]Static Orb can untap cards w/ don't untap ef

Postby BAgate » 05 Dec 2014, 02:13

1) the prompt reads 'selecta permanent' with no space between 'select' and 'a'

2) when an effect with a legacy card prevents untap it works (ex. Frost Titan's ability)

3) when the effect is global it doesn't work (ex. a Frost Titan can be untapped when a Meekstone is in play)
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Re: [still bugg]Static Orb can untap cards w/ don't untap ef

Postby Gargaroz » 08 Dec 2014, 16:08

Bug 1 fixed in 3e731be
Bug 3 will require more effort, stay tuned.
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Re: [wait news]Static Orb can untap cards w/ don't untap eff

Postby Aswan jaguar » 25 Jul 2016, 14:43

Static Orb doesn't prevent any permanent from untapping if that permanent isn't affected by it's own ability or another card, except from the permanent that has the lowest in-game id=(the permanent that was drawn from library before the others) You will see also that only the card with lowest in-game id has the untap symbol when Static Orb triggers instead of all cards that are tapped (except the ones that have to remain tapped? )
see the screenshot all my creatures and artifacts and most lands were tapped except Static Orb.I select to untap Frost Titan and Ojutai, Soul of Winter and everything untapped apart from the other Frost Titan (Meekstone),Nettle Sentinel,Basalt Monolith (own ability) and the Meekstone with the lowest in-game id=0.
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Re: [confirmed]Static Orb can untap cards w/ don't untap eff

Postby Gargaroz » 13 Sep 2016, 21:27

Fixed this last bug in c40835e
Interaction with other global untap-negating cards is still problematic.
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