XMage.info Website and Server - offline / online
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Re: XMage.info Website and Server - offline / online
by LevelX » 15 Nov 2014, 10:19
I wonder if the hosted Xmage file for download is the thing in focus or running the XMage server (or both ) ).
So it would be good to seperate the two things. I would like to move the basic XMage download from the Xmage.info server to another server/URL.
Using the launcher the loaded config.json can point to any URL. But it would also be more flexible if the location of the config.json could be easily changed/maintained/added within the launcher.
Anybody willing to host the XMage download files?
Or is sharing the XMage file by BitTorrent a good alternate way to go? If the Launcher e.g. would have this feature integrated (don't know if this is hard to do)?
Anyway I'm not keen to handle any offshore server, because I would more like to spend my time to develop than take care of such things.
So it would be good to seperate the two things. I would like to move the basic XMage download from the Xmage.info server to another server/URL.
Using the launcher the loaded config.json can point to any URL. But it would also be more flexible if the location of the config.json could be easily changed/maintained/added within the launcher.
Anybody willing to host the XMage download files?
Or is sharing the XMage file by BitTorrent a good alternate way to go? If the Launcher e.g. would have this feature integrated (don't know if this is hard to do)?
Anyway I'm not keen to handle any offshore server, because I would more like to spend my time to develop than take care of such things.
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Re: XMage.info Website and Server - offline / online
by BetaSteward » 15 Nov 2014, 14:05
I think that hosting the download on bittorrent is the way to go. It will be very hard to shut it down. I found this library that provides an open source java client: http://www.staging.threerings.net/snark.html
I'll add it into the Launcher and I'll also make the location configurable from the UI.
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I'll add it into the Launcher and I'll also make the location configurable from the UI.
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Re: XMage.info Website and Server - offline / online
by gabriele83 » 17 Nov 2014, 00:05
Bittorrent seems very interesting, but how to check for the latest version in that case?
Maybe keep those details on the actual server (version number and CRC to avoid modified files) and the rest on bittorrent?
To be sure to have the file always available it should be useful also to let the launcher manage the upload of the file, so that it will always be available to other clients for download.
Maybe keep those details on the actual server (version number and CRC to avoid modified files) and the rest on bittorrent?
To be sure to have the file always available it should be useful also to let the launcher manage the upload of the file, so that it will always be available to other clients for download.
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Re: XMage.info Website and Server - offline / online
by The0retico » 18 Nov 2014, 08:15
I guess you can have .torrent file with current version on the site - the actual files are not on the servetr anyway. Other option would be having current version description on the website and .torrents posted to some major torrent search sites.
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Re: XMage.info Website and Server - offline / online
by woogerboy21 » 18 Nov 2014, 12:19
Sorry about the woogerworks server being offline. It should be back up now.
I had disabled the monitoring / maintenance scripts during the last software update and failed to reenable them causing it to eventually not restart on the last time it crashed.
I had disabled the monitoring / maintenance scripts during the last software update and failed to reenable them causing it to eventually not restart on the last time it crashed.
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Re: XMage.info Website and Server - offline / online
by LevelX » 21 Nov 2014, 07:11
Got some more info from the provider of the server:
I wrote as answer:Dear customer,
The offending card image has been removed, however the
claim is against the actual game itself
The copyright image was from the game of http://www.xmage.info
The game itself also uses the copyrighted image.
You have to remove the copyright image.
That's clearly not true. Please tell me which image(s) I
should remove.
Neither the game download nor the game itself running on
the server uses or includes any copyrighted images. If you
think that is not true, you can point me to the file you
think that includes or is such a copyrighted image. If so
I would immediately remove such an image.
People running the client component of the program may on
their systems download or use copyrigted images but It's
not my responsibility and I can't change or influence it
neither have knowlege about it.
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Re: XMage.info Website and Server - offline / online
by gabriele83 » 21 Nov 2014, 21:23
Hmm I was thinking...there are images used by the loader, were do they come from?
Also the image with the ships used as background of Xmage, who made it?
If you are the owner (or have the rights) of all those things I don't see what they are complaining about.
Also the image with the ships used as background of Xmage, who made it?
If you are the owner (or have the rights) of all those things I don't see what they are complaining about.
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Re: XMage.info Website and Server - offline / online
by BetaSteward » 22 Nov 2014, 02:52
The images for the launcher were obtained from this site: http://wall.alphacoders.com/
The site states that images are for "personal, non commercial use". It can certainly be argued that the usage is "non commercial". Whether or not the usage is "personal" is possibly debatable.
If the copyright holders are indeed complaining about the usage in the Launcher I will remove and replace them with public domain works.
The site states that images are for "personal, non commercial use". It can certainly be argued that the usage is "non commercial". Whether or not the usage is "personal" is possibly debatable.
If the copyright holders are indeed complaining about the usage in the Launcher I will remove and replace them with public domain works.
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Re: XMage.info Website and Server - offline / online
by gabriele83 » 24 Nov 2014, 14:10
Would be useful to have more details about which images they're talking about in particular and who they are.
Why remain anonymous?
Why remain anonymous?
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Re: XMage.info Website and Server - offline / online
by woogerboy21 » 24 Nov 2014, 18:58
Are you still showing the woogerworks server down? I show it up but the original post says its still down.
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Re: XMage.info Website and Server - offline / online
by LevelX » 24 Nov 2014, 19:40
Thanks for the hint, I updated the post.woogerboy21 wrote:Are you still showing the woogerworks server down? I show it up but the original post says its still down.
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Re: XMage.info Website and Server - offline / online
by LevelX » 25 Nov 2014, 20:30
I got a new message from the server provider:
Dear Customer,
Allow me to continue this thread
with you.
Accodring to the plaintiff, the problem
of copyright persists.
The plaintiff is saying that the game files of
http://xmage.info/ is also the issue:
http://xmage.info/download/mage-bundle- ... 014-11-08v
1.zip
When the game is installed, the game content and its images
is an infringement of:
http://magic.wizards.com/en/what-is-magic
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Here is the game in action:
http://magic.wizards.com/en/try
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This is some print screens of the game:
https://github.com/magefree/mage/issues/599
We ask you to remove the infringing content
as soon as possible.
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Re: XMage.info Website and Server - offline / online
by varygoode » 25 Nov 2014, 23:47
Looks like you'll be needing a new provider...
Re: XMage.info Website and Server - offline / online
by gabriele83 » 26 Nov 2014, 15:02
Ouch, this is not good at all, seems like it's coming from WotC.
It's not clear anyway if they're complaining about the images in the cards or the game structure itself.
In any case I think it's not wise to fight against them, better make them happy...but move the game somewhere else
It's not clear anyway if they're complaining about the images in the cards or the game structure itself.
In any case I think it's not wise to fight against them, better make them happy...but move the game somewhere else
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Re: XMage.info Website and Server - offline / online
by Gabrielrenan1 » 26 Nov 2014, 23:37
why not use mega.co.nz to host?
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