by juzamjedi » 27 Dec 2011, 02:36
by delirimouse » 25 Jan 2012, 00:08
by mcrawford620 » 26 Jun 2012, 20:01
by Rob Cashwalker » 29 Jun 2012, 14:25
Determining a card's rating has been left open for debate for a while.
I would like to continue with collecting ratings data locally and aggregated through the server and database. There are some skeletons of this in the code base already. The database schema and PHP can be changed to fit any new ideas.
by mcrawford620 » 29 Jun 2012, 17:59
by mcrawford620 » 06 Jul 2012, 06:05
If you have data already collected and could whip up a PHP page, I could probably copy the system in GuiDownloadPrices and ReadPriceList (?) and use the data in the draft. My only other idea was to use another website's data like http://tappedout.net/mtg-set/2012-core- ... draft-pick but that would be a pain in the butt to crawl and parse.
by mcrawford620 » 07 Jul 2012, 00:10
I checked in some tweaks to BoosterDraftAI which will still be useful for when there is no data.
by mcrawford620 » 29 Jul 2012, 05:14
by juzamjedi » 31 Jul 2012, 03:50
by mcrawford620 » 31 Jul 2012, 05:35
Which cubes would you be thinking of drafting?
My impression is that the site has a lot of data for recent sets, then less data for stuff like Beta or Ice Age, because not many people are online drafting those things. So the Mox stuff in Beta is not ranked 1-5 but still fairly high. Overall, though, as far as I can tell, the data is pretty good.
If you're drafting a custom cube, then it would be comparing ranks across different sets. We might have to adjust for the size of the set at some point so a terrible card from a 150-card small set doesn't get drafted over an average card from a core set.
by delirimouse » 31 Jul 2012, 22:03
by juzamjedi » 27 Aug 2012, 04:04
I would guess that many people use the cube list I post / update from time to time. I'm not opposed to providing a pick order as well, but I bet my pick order would be in the same ball park as "highest average pick for people drafting this cube". Some time ago several devs started collecting the data although I have no idea if they have done anything with it yet.delirimouse wrote:Another option would be for the person who posts a cube to have the option of including a pick order with it as part of the data. It would be a bit of work, but it shouldn't be too hard to come up with. Then the AI could just use the included pick order.
I checked out Cube ranking on the Bestiare website. I see some rankings that I don't think seem right (just as an example, there's no way I'm taking 2 different Garruks over Sol Ring and Moxen). However, if that ranking was somehow easier to use instead of rolling our own I could live with it.
by mcrawford620 » 27 Aug 2012, 20:53
There definitely are sample size issues with some of the rankings. For instance, a recent set like M13 has been drafted on that site thousands of times. Even a Mythic like Garruk has been in nigh on a thousand drafts: http://draft.bestiaire.org/graph_picks. ... d_id=47998
So the rankings for recent sets are fairly stable and established.
While Sol Ring has only been in 9 drafts in Unlimited, and that was an Uncommon back then.
http://draft.bestiaire.org/graph_picks. ... d_id=38607