Shandalar - Program Bugs
AI always pays "counter unless controller pays X" costs (reviewed)
If the AI targets Spiketail Hatchling or Spiketail Drakeling , for example, with a removal spell, and you sacrifice the hatchling in response to counter that spell, the AI will still pay the cost even though there's no point. It's rather exploitable.
Last edited by Korath on 02 Dec 2015, 21:46, edited 1 time in total.
Reason: Retitle from "AI pays additional costs for spells which have no targets"
Reason: Retitle from "AI pays additional costs for spells which have no targets"
Comments
Posted by jiansonz » 30 Nov 2015, 13:54
Isn't the mana payment required just to put the spell on the stack (i.e. it's already paid before the target is gone)?
Posted by Korath » 02 Dec 2015, 21:51
No, he means something like this:
- You control Spiketail Hatchling.
- AI has two untapped Plains.
- AI casts Swords to Plowshares, targeting the hatchling.
- You sac the hatchling to counter the plowshare.
- The AI taps its second Plains to pay for the hatchling effect, even though his plowshare is going to be countered for not having targets.
Posted by lujo » 02 Dec 2015, 22:00
It's no biggie, and that's what I mean.
What IS a biggie is that the AI doesn't seem to pay enough attention to the fact that you have a Spiketail Hatchling on board so it will play counterable spells into them all the time. Getting a bunch early on and abusing this fact in Shandalar can get you a lot of wins currently. Again, if nothing can be done, nothing can be done, but it's quite an exploit in practice.
What IS a biggie is that the AI doesn't seem to pay enough attention to the fact that you have a Spiketail Hatchling on board so it will play counterable spells into them all the time. Getting a bunch early on and abusing this fact in Shandalar can get you a lot of wins currently. Again, if nothing can be done, nothing can be done, but it's quite an exploit in practice.
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Ticket details
- Ticket ID: 948
- Project: Shandalar
- Status: Reviewed
- Component: Duel AI
- Project version: Nomad's Bazaar 1
- Priority: Normal
- Severity: Normal
- Assigned to: (unassigned)
- Reported by: lujo
- Reporter's tickets: List all tickets
- Reported on: 27 Nov 2015, 01:19
- Last visited by Korath » 13 Dec 2015, 14:56.
