[REL] Master Necros Decks! Huge update 10 new decks25.5.2014

[Master Necro]

Good work on the decks.
Have a number of bugs to report. I haven't thoroughly tested these, so this isn't a complete list.

Svogthos, the Restless Tomb always taps itself to animate, making its ability rather useless. The Keyrunes sometimes have this problem as well. I'd recommend reworking their mana production abilities to use mana tokens to avoid the problem.

They tap because they use their own mana when they use that ability you mast have more mana so that those cards don't use their own.

Cipher doesn't work on any of the cards that use it.

Just checked and it works it attaches to a creature card and asks you to cast it again when that creature deals damage directly to the opposing player.

In addition to Overgrown Tomb's mana being switched, I believe Izzet Guildgate's is as well.

Fixed!

Golgari Guildgate doesn't have art.

Hmmmm, it does have art in my game, strange, when you re download the deck please check again.

Orzhova, Church of Deals does not spend mana for its ability.

Yep that is pretty strange, I have asked people to help since I don't see the error in the code...

Skinbrand Goblin should not grant trample with its bloodrush ability.

It was actually just a text error but fixed all the same.

And a few spelling errors. Golgari are misspelled in the deck name.

Fixed!

Dragenious? DRAGENIOUS? HOW DARE YOU DEFILE THE NAME OF THE GREAT AND POWERFUL NIV-MIZZET... Ahem.

Yeah never liked him. That is the name I've chosen for that deck AI.

There might be others I haven't found. Just letting you know about the ones I have found so far.

Uploaded the fixes.

Thank you for making an effort to help me make this mod better, please do report any bugs and feel free to ask anything that you want.

[Blue Ghost]

Good work on the decks.
Have a number of bugs to report. I haven't thoroughly tested these, so this isn't a complete list.

Svogthos, the Restless Tomb always taps itself to animate, making its ability rather useless. The Keyrunes sometimes have this problem as well. I'd recommend reworking their mana production abilities to use mana tokens to avoid the problem.

They tap because they use their own mana when they use that ability you mast have more mana so that those cards don't use their own.

Yes, but for Svogthos, I couldn't make it use mana from other sources. It appears that it prioritizes colorless mana, which it can only generate itself.

[Master Necro]

Good work on the decks.
Have a number of bugs to report. I haven't thoroughly tested these, so this isn't a complete list.

Svogthos, the Restless Tomb always taps itself to animate, making its ability rather useless. The Keyrunes sometimes have this problem as well. I'd recommend reworking their mana production abilities to use mana tokens to avoid the problem.

They tap because they use their own mana when they use that ability you mast have more mana so that those cards don't use their own.

Yes, but for Svogthos, I couldn't make it use mana from other sources. It appears that it prioritizes colorless mana, which it can only generate itself.

I really don't get that much of that when I play but as far as I know there is no way to tell a card which mana source to prioritize.

[Master Necro]

Yes, but for Svogthos, I couldn't make it use mana from other sources. It appears that it prioritizes colorless mana, which it can only generate itself.

I really don't get that much of that when I play but as far as I know there is no way to tell a card which mana source to prioritize. The way to avoid this is make Svogthos prodice mana it doesn't need, for instance all cards including Svogthos produce green and on;y one guild gate produces black.

P.S. Sorry for double post.

[Master Necro]

Thefiremind fixed Orzhova, the Church of Deals.

[Blue Ghost]

Yes, but for Svogthos, I couldn't make it use mana from other sources. It appears that it prioritizes colorless mana, which it can only generate itself.

I really don't get that much of that when I play but as far as I know there is no way to tell a card which mana source to prioritize. The way to avoid this is make Svogthos prodice mana it doesn't need, for instance all cards including Svogthos produce green and on;y one guild gate produces black.

P.S. Sorry for double post.

Svogthos can only produce colorless mana. The easiest workaround I can think of is to have Svogthos (and the Keyrunes, and possibly other things as well) produce mana as mana tokens, like the Signets do.

[Master Necro]

Yes, but for Svogthos, I couldn't make it use mana from other sources. It appears that it prioritizes colorless mana, which it can only generate itself.

I really don't get that much of that when I play but as far as I know there is no way to tell a card which mana source to prioritize. The way to avoid this is make Svogthos prodice mana it doesn't need, for instance all cards including Svogthos produce green and on;y one guild gate produces black.

P.S. Sorry for double post.

Svogthos can only produce colorless mana. The easiest workaround I can think of is to have Svogthos (and the Keyrunes, and possibly other things as well) produce mana as mana tokens, like the Signets do.

I have been exploring this and as far as I know colourless mana can't be produced with tokens.

[RiiakShiNal]

I have been exploring this and as far as I know colourless mana can't be produced with tokens.

Tokens most certainly CAN produce colourless mana. If the token has this ability it will have no problem producing colourless mana:

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   <MANA_ABILITY>
      <COST type="TapSelf" />
      <PRODUCES amount="{1}" />
   </MANA_ABILITY>

[Master Necro]

I have been exploring this and as far as I know colourless mana can't be produced with tokens.

Tokens most certainly CAN produce colourless mana. If the token has this ability it will have no problem producing colourless mana:

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   <MANA_ABILITY>
      <COST type="TapSelf" />
      <PRODUCES amount="{1}" />
   </MANA_ABILITY>

Actually Svogthos already has that same function I just didn't realise that that is using a token.

[RiiakShiNal]

I have been exploring this and as far as I know colourless mana can't be produced with tokens.

Tokens most certainly CAN produce colourless mana. If the token has this ability it will have no problem producing colourless mana:

Code: Select all

   <MANA_ABILITY>
      <COST type="TapSelf" />
      <PRODUCES amount="{1}" />
   </MANA_ABILITY>

Actually Svogthos already has that same function I just didn't realise that that is using a token.

That ability does NOT produce a token, it produces colourless mana. If put ON a token then the token will be able to produce colourless mana.

[yuriap]

It seems that the number of non-basic lands (dual lands and guild gates) exceeds the proper number according the rules. Is it on purpose?

Thank you very much for this wonderful work. Your decks are very fun to play - not overpowered, but balanced thematic decks -, just the way i like it!

[thefiremind]

Master Necro, I have to ask you to do something a little annoying.
Blue Ghost found that your decks interfered with my mod, and I understood why: you still have the old versions of my LOL files, which override my new versions and hide some of the functions I wrote inside them. So I have to ask you to update the LOL files in your decks. In order to make it a bit easier for you, I re-collected the LOL files from your Cult of Rakdos deck (I guess you copied the same ones in all your decks, right?), updated those belonging to me, and added a "MN_" prefix to all of them, so you won't have to worry again about updating them.

[BloodReyvyn]

Glad I looked here, I had a few cards not working correctly, or in some cases abilities doing nothing at all. I uninstalled these and everything is back to working fine again.

Hoping for an update soon, cuz these decks were pretty fun to play.

[thefiremind]

Well, you can always update them by yourself if you want: unpack, delete the contents of the FUNCTIONS folder, extract my ZIP to the FUNCTIONS folder, repack, do the same for each deck of this mod. It's time-consuming, but easy to do.

[Master Necro]

It seems that the number of non-basic lands (dual lands and guild gates) exceeds the proper number according the rules. Is it on purpose?

Thank you very much for this wonderful work. Your decks are very fun to play - not overpowered, but balanced thematic decks -, just the way i like it!

Weeeell I don't really know all the rules so I'm just aiming for fun decks if that is a problem tell me what needs changing so that the decks would be rule approved.

And thank you, that really means a lot.

Master Necro, I have to ask you to do something a little annoying.
Blue Ghost found that your decks interfered with my mod, and I understood why: you still have the old versions of my LOL files, which override my new versions and hide some of the functions I wrote inside them. So I have to ask you to update the LOL files in your decks. In order to make it a bit easier for you, I re-collected the LOL files from your Cult of Rakdos deck (I guess you copied the same ones in all your decks, right?), updated those belonging to me, and added a "MN_" prefix to all of them, so you won't have to worry again about updating them.

That is not too big of a problem since I need to redo all the keyrunes so yep, all the decks must be reuploaded, but I simply don't have the time RL is pressing hard but as soon as I find time I'll get right on it, and upload 3 transform decks.