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Burrenton Forge-Tender

PostPosted: 17 Nov 2012, 17:24
by FranAvalon
Summary: Burrenton Forge-Tender does not prevent damage from Ajani Vengeant
Description: Burrenton Forge-Tender's damage prevention from red source ability (Sacrifice ~this~: Prevent all damage a red source of your choice would deal this turn.) does not work against Ajani Vengeant's damage ability (-2: Ajani Vengeant deals 3 damage to target creature or player and you gain 3 life.)

The ability recognizes Ajani Vengeant as valid target, but its damage is not prevented.
Steps To Reproduce:
Additional Information: Ajani Vengeant http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/ ... eid=174852 [^]
Burrenton Forge-Tender http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/ ... eid=139395 [^]

Attached file has log file and test decks.
Attached Files: burrentonvsajani.zip (1 KB) 2010-12-27 01:59
Notes
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dinghammer
2010-12-27 11:59
Burrenton Forge-Tender doesn't prevent damage from much of anything.

Its current ability, as it's coded, should read "Sacrifice Burrenton Forge-Tender: The next time a red source of your choice would deal damage to you this turn, prevent that damage."

Because that's all it does now.

I noticed while trying to find some way to fix it that Auriok Replica only prevents the next damage from the chosen source instead of all damage. This matters for things like Pyrohemia/Pestilence, double strike, multiple attack phases, and probably others.

The existing damage prevention options are so anemic, I don't know if it's even possible to fix either of these bugs.

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Hector
2010-12-27 12:11
I see. I have not thought of testing about its "all" part, just tested with another red source and saw it preventing that ones next damage. So I have assumed that it is working correct with other sources.

Anyway, in this issue as it stands, Ajani's damage is not prevented at all (next or not) and that is another bug I guess.

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dinghammer
2010-12-27 16:34
In your other test, the red source must have been dealing damage to you, because that's the only damage Burrenton Forge-Tender will ever prevent.

Everything that uses the same type of ability can only prevent damage to one of two things:

1. Itself.
2. Its controller.

And the only other damage prevention ability that exists is targeted, like Healing Salve.

Things like Fog and Dolmen Gate use different effects entirely and can't be converted to make Burrenton Forge-Tender work.

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Hector
2010-12-27 17:13
Indeed, I have tested it with a Shock targeted at me.

Now that I read your first note carefully, I have noticed "to you" part. Next I have tested Ajani's damage ability targeting myself, and Burrenton prevented it just fine.

To all prospects of bug-fixers, please ignore the second note added to this issue. It is not the interaction with Ajani that is bugged, it is Burrenton Forge-Tender itself that is bugged. First note summarizes it all.