Formal Request Thread

[thefiremind]

I just have one question what is <COUNTER_REGISTRATION name="Fuse" proliferate="11" />, it said Quest and I changed it to Fuse do I have to add that somewhere like also?

It's OK. What I'd like to know is what we should write instead of "11" if we declare a "bad" counter that we don't want to proliferate for ourselves (or we want to proliferate for the opponents). I guess that "11" means "this counter is as good as a +1/+1 counter", but what for "this counter is as bad as a -1/-1 counter"? There are no examples of that in the official cards. Anyway, fuse counters are good, so it's OK that way.

[gorem2k]

Talking about interrogation, I'm about to make an Esper deck (not just for colors, but for flavor as well) and I successfully coded Ethersworn Canonist with a clever use of interrogation. If someone needs it

Sure.

The only examples I've found were for Bloodthirst.

this is perfect for next level coding... *Ding!*

oh and Goblin Bomb is now much better. one little tiny detail, why is a huge explosion FX happening even if I don't flip the coin?

[thefiremind]

oh and Goblin Bomb is now much better. one little tiny detail, why is a huge explosion FX happening even if I don't flip the coin?

We have no control over SFX, if you insert it in an ability it will be played on resolution, no matter what happens with the ability. You might want to remove it from the "flip coin" ability and leave it on the activation that deals 20 damage.

[gorem2k]

Brine Hag would probably need to use interrogation in order to know which creatures dealt damage to it.

Actually, I think DAMAGE_DEALT won't do. and there are no DEALT_DAMAGE INTERROGATE constants, so I'm left using the unknown territory of DO loops + GetNthEvaluatedObject, SetMarkedObjectsOnly, and such. Do you have any example card that would be useful for Brine?

[thefiremind]

Brine Hag would probably need to use interrogation in order to know which creatures dealt damage to it.

Actually, I think DAMAGE_DEALT won't do. and there are no DEALT_DAMAGE INTERROGATE constants, so I'm left using the unknown territory of DO loops + GetNthEvaluatedObject, SetMarkedObjectsOnly, and such. Do you have any example card that would be useful for Brine?

I "inverted" the code from Sengir Vampire and I think I got something good. I'm not familiar with FILTER_CONDITION blocks yet, so I might have made mistakes, but try this:

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  <TRIGGERED_ABILITY>
    -- Localised text omitted
    <TRIGGER value="ZONECHANGE_BEGIN" simple_qualifier="self" to_zone="ZONE_GRAVEYARD" from_zone="ZONE_BATTLEFIELD">
    EffectDC():Protect_CardPtr(COMPARTMENT_ID_EFFECT_SOURCE)
    return true
    </TRIGGER>
    <FILTER filter_id="0">
    local filter = ClearFilter()
    filter:Add(FE_TYPE, OP_IS, CARD_TYPE_CREATURE)
    filter:Add( FE_LUA_CONDITION, 1, EffectController(), EffectDC() )
    </FILTER>
    <FILTER_CONDITION id="1">
    local creature = FilteredCard()
    if creature ~= nil then
       local interrogation = MTG():ClearInterrogationQuery()
       interrogation:SetObject(creature)
       interrogation:SetSecondaryObject( EffectSource() )
       if interrogation:Test(INTERROGATE_DAMAGE_DEALT, INTERROGATE_THIS_TURN) then
          return true
       end
    end
    return false
    </FILTER_CONDITION>
    <CONTINUOUS_ACTION layer="7B" filter_id="0">
    if FilteredCard() ~= nil then
       local characteristics = FilteredCard():GetCurrentCharacteristics()
       characteristics:Power_Set(0)
       characteristics:Toughness_Set(2)
    end
    </CONTINUOUS_ACTION>
    <DURATION>
    return FilteredCard() == nil
    </DURATION>
  </TRIGGERED_ABILITY>

[RiiakShiNal]

Could you perhaps share some of them?

I plan on it, just as soon as I finish up a several more cards (like those from Azorius, Boros, Golgari, Gruul, Izzet, Orzhov, Rakdos, Selesnya, and Simic).

I also finished up a few more:

• Abundant Growth
• Birds of Paradise
• Dimir Cluestone
• Dimir Keyrune
• Dimir Signet

So to go before I release are:

• Azorius Chancery, Azorius Cluestone, Azorius Guildgate, Azorius Keyrune, Azorius Signet
• Blackcleave Cliffs
• Boros Cluestone, Boros Garrison, Boros Guildgate, Boros Keyrune, Boros Signet
• Copperline Gorge
• Dragonskull Summit
• Glacial Fortress
• Golgari Cluestone, Golgari Guildgate, Golgari Keyrune, Golgari Rot Farm, Golgari Signet
• Gruul Cluestone, Gruul Guildgate, Gruul Keyrune, Gruul Signet, Gruul Turf
• Izzet Boilerworks, Izzet Cluestone, Izzet Guildgate, Izzet Keyrune, Izzet Signet
• Orzhov Basilica, Orzhov Cluestone, Orzhov Guildgate, Orzhov Keyrune, Orzhov Signet
• Rakdos Carnarium, Rakdos Cluestone, Rakdos Guildgate, Rakdos Keyrune, Rakdos Signet
• Razorverge Thicket
• Rootbound Crag
• Seachrome Coast
• Selesnya Cluestone, Selesnya Guildgate, Selesnya Keyrune, Selesnya Sanctuary, Selesnya Signet
• Simic Cluestone, Simic Growth Chamber, Simic Guildgate, Simic Keyrune, Simic Signet
• Sunpetal Grove

Though they should go fairly quickly as I've already done one set so it's mainly just copy, paste, and minor changes.

Edit: Striking through some more finished cards.

Update: Finished cards, now writing documentation while waiting on AT&T.

[kevlahnota]

@Riiak ShiNal
@thefiremind

PM'ed you both.

[Master Necro]

Could you perhaps share some of them?

I plan on it, just as soon as I finish up a several more cards (like those from Azorius, Boros, Golgari, Gruul, Izzet, Orzhov, Rakdos, Selesnya, and Simic).

I also finished up a few more:

• Abundant Growth
• Birds of Paradise
• Dimir Cluestone
• Dimir Keyrune
• Dimir Signet

So to go before I release are:

• Azorius Chancery, Azorius Cluestone, Azorius Guildgate, Azorius Keyrune, Azorius Signet
• Blackcleave Cliffs
• Boros Cluestone, Boros Garrison, Boros Guildgate, Boros Keyrune, Boros Signet
• Copperline Gorge
• Dragonskull Summit
• Glacial Fortress
• Golgari Cluestone, Golgari Guildgate, Golgari Keyrune, Golgari Rot Farm, Golgari Signet
• Gruul Cluestone, Gruul Guildgate, Gruul Keyrune, Gruul Signet, Gruul Turf
• Izzet Boilerworks, Izzet Cluestone, Izzet Guildgate, Izzet Keyrune, Izzet Signet
• Orzhov Basilica, Orzhov Cluestone, Orzhov Guildgate, Orzhov Keyrune, Orzhov Signet
• Rakdos Carnarium, Rakdos Cluestone, Rakdos Guildgate, Rakdos Keyrune, Rakdos Signet
• Razorverge Thicket
• Rootbound Crag
• Seachrome Coast
• Selesnya Cluestone, Selesnya Guildgate, Selesnya Keyrune, Selesnya Sanctuary, Selesnya Signet
• Simic Cluestone, Simic Growth Chamber, Simic Guildgate, Simic Keyrune, Simic Signet
• Sunpetal Grove

Though they should go fairly quickly as I've already done one set so it's mainly just copy, paste, and minor changes.

Without any exaguration that is my dream come true.

[thefiremind]

EDIT: Forget what was written here.
(Well, you can find it in a lot of quotes so it won't be easy... )

[NEMESiS]

@Riiak ShiNal
@thefiremind

PM'ed you both.

I think it's not a secret and this is the best place to spread the news: kevlahnota found how to produce multiple mana colors without any trick.

So, let's make an example: " : Add or to your mana pool" will be coded like this:

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  <MANA_ABILITY>
    <COST type="TapSelf" />
    <PRODUCES amount="{BG}" />
  </MANA_ABILITY>

Understood?

All the credit goes to kevlahnota for (maybe) the best DotP2014 discover so far.

No more tokens.



WAIT, does that mean that we can also now have cards like Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth?

[thefiremind]

Uhm... I just tried to code Obelisk of Esper but there's something that doesn't work, so hold on a second...

I had 2 untapped Obelisk of Esper and 1 untapped Island and couldn't cast Ethersworn Shieldmage. It seemed to me that this:

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  <MANA_ABILITY>
    <COST type="TapSelf" />
    <PRODUCES amount="{WUB}" />
  </MANA_ABILITY>

was producing only .
EDIT: actually, only .

[kevlahnota]

@thefiremind
its not really a secret...

anyway next thing is how to add custom frames ?!?
I tried adding <FRAME_TYPE type="miracle" /> to a colorless basic land, and the frame changes to a multicolored frame.

so I think its looking a frame?

@Riiak ShiNal
@thefiremind

PM'ed you both.

I think it's not a secret and this is the best place to spread the news: kevlahnota found how to produce multiple mana colors without any trick.

So, let's make an example: " : Add or to your mana pool" will be coded like this:

Code: Select all

  <MANA_ABILITY>
    <COST type="TapSelf" />
    <PRODUCES amount="{BG}" />
  </MANA_ABILITY>

Understood?

All the credit goes to kevlahnota for (maybe) the best DotP2014 discover so far.

No more tokens.



WAIT, does that mean that we can also now have cards like Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth?

Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth is a complex card so I doubt it will be possible.

[NEMESiS]

Uhm... I just tried to code Obelisk of Esper but there's something that doesn't work, so hold on a second...

I had 2 untapped Obelisk of Esper and 1 untapped Island and couldn't cast Ethersworn Shieldmage. It seemed to me that this:

Code: Select all

  <MANA_ABILITY>
    <COST type="TapSelf" />
    <PRODUCES amount="{WUB}" />
  </MANA_ABILITY>

was producing only .

Just a stab here but what if you split it into 2 parts, one for {B W} and {U B}?

[thefiremind]

Just a stab here but what if you split it into 2 parts, one for {B W} and {U B}?

It would fall back to one of the scenarios that RiiakShiNal listed here. However, maybe it really supports no more than 2 colors... I'm going to remove 1 color from my Obelisk and see what happens.

EDIT: Even with just "{WU}" I can't cast Ethersworn Shieldmage if I control only Obelisks and Islands. I trusted kevlahnota but now I think he must have missed something. The example he showed me was Breeding Pool... could it be that having the basic land types is necessary for the mana source to work well with this syntax?

EDIT 2: I made my Obelisk a land instead of an artifact... still nothing. I added Plains and Island sub-types... still nothing.

[kevlahnota]

You are correct, Sorry but its a mistake. The game only recognizes the last letter inside the curly braces.

I think we need to define the mana so the game will recognize it.

Just a stab here but what if you split it into 2 parts, one for {B W} and {U B}?

It would fall back to one of the scenarios that RiiakShiNal listed here. However, maybe it really supports no more than 2 colors... I'm going to remove 1 color from my Obelisk and see what happens.

EDIT: Even with just "{WU}" I can't cast Ethersworn Shieldmage if I control only Obelisks and Islands. I trusted kevlahnota but now I think he must have missed something. The example he showed me was Breeding Pool... could it be that having the basic land types is necessary for the mana source to work well with this syntax?