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Re: Formal Request Thread

Postby Xander9009 » 25 Apr 2019, 02:14

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lp8ZtO ... sp=sharing

Let me know how this works. It relies on the Community Wad for a couple of helper functions. Specifically, the cards that need to track the amount of life gained this turn. That's already a part of the background tracking token the CW uses, so I piggybacked on that instead of redoing it from scratch. It also has the subtype function file from the CW because it needs to register the butterfly type in order to appear properly. However, this should not be left like that if it's released. This will cause conflicts as soon as that function file is updated in the CW, which happens with every set release that has new creature types. However, I'm not quite sure yet how to allow another mod to use the functions and register the same way the CW does without risking things happening out of order.
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Re: Formal Request Thread

Postby LexilconCondran » 25 Apr 2019, 03:05

Xander9009 wrote:https(dot)//drive(dot)google(dot)com/file/d/1lp8ZtOT2YIWh2rrf8Om8YgbJFtQp12y6/view?usp=sharing

Let me know how this works. It relies on the Community Wad for a couple of helper functions. Specifically, the cards that need to track the amount of life gained this turn. That's already a part of the background tracking token the CW uses, so I piggybacked on that instead of redoing it from scratch. It also has the subtype function file from the CW because it needs to register the butterfly type in order to appear properly. However, this should not be left like that if it's released. This will cause conflicts as soon as that function file is updated in the CW, which happens with every set release that has new creature types. However, I'm not quite sure yet how to allow another mod to use the functions and register the same way the CW does without risking things happening out of order.
My face when seeing the cards in Riiaks was 0 - 0
WTF... lol

if it helps, what if the Butterfly typing was Insect.
Insect is already in the game if that makes it easier or helps.
-This is the coolest thing ever- like dude.....

With a bit of polish it'd be awesome
The deck's name is Rhymythia's Calling.
The Deck pack image would be Maga Phonox, Dark Queen
And She'd be the Ai.
i'd set the Creature size at 2 stars.
Speed at 3 stars, Synergy at 4, and flexibility at 3.
not sure how to do that, if i create it fully in Riiaks deck editor and post it, will it save as a wad file as well?

thank you, and yeah, if the insect typing helps over butterfly, it'd be okay. its cool to have a new type though

-Dance of the Rhymythias ability didnt activate, when an enchantment enters the battlefield place a 1/1 butterfly token onto the battlefield.
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Re: Formal Request Thread

Postby Xander9009 » 25 Apr 2019, 03:07

Yeah, just make it how you want in the deck editor and in the file menu, export as wad. And if they were insects, then yeah, that would make it a lot more compatible with the CW and other mods.
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Re: Formal Request Thread

Postby LexilconCondran » 25 Apr 2019, 03:11

Xander9009 wrote:Yeah, just make it how you want in the deck editor and in the file menu, export as wad. And if they were insects, then yeah, that would make it a lot more compatible with the CW and other mods.
It would be better then if Butterfly typing for all the cards was switched to insect, so it'd be compatible

i'am testing it out right now.

-Dance of the rhymythia didnt activate and create tokens when an enchantment came out, but the Lanterns of Goldenrod works, that card is awesome

^this might be due to the butterfly typing, so i guess they could switch to insect to function. i played Blue Moon and Moonlights kiss, and none popped out

-Blue moon went back into the library, but i didnt draw card
^does this activate only if i counter a spell, or if i play it?

-Messengers recourse is cool.

-Moon flowers heralds ability wasnt working,
it was essentially a 0/0 but with moonlights kiss, 2 and maga, it was a 3/3, i gained 1 life and it stayed a 3/3
-Its power is 0, and toughness is 1 + (life you gained this turn)

^ Rhymyhtia the bold also had a similar issue
could just be my outdated wad. i got a huge compile error log when i closed 2014.
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Re: Formal Request Thread

Postby Xander9009 » 25 Apr 2019, 03:22

Dance of the Rhymythia worked fine for me. Are you sure your copy of the Community Wad is up to date? And alright, I'll go through and change them to insect. That'll only take 2 or 3 minutes. I also updated the text permanent file and Moon Flower's Herald because of a missing card query text tag.
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Re: Formal Request Thread

Postby LexilconCondran » 25 Apr 2019, 03:23

Xander9009 wrote:Dance of the Rhymythia worked fine for me. Are you sure your copy of the Community Wad is up to date? And alright, I'll go through and change them to insect. That'll only take 2 or 3 minutes. I also updated the text permanent file and Moon Flower's Herald because of a missing card query text tag.
ill update my wad and try again then.
i'am using a 2017 version

-theres a ton of stuff there, that could probably fix alot of the issues i've had, with some other cards
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Re: Formal Request Thread

Postby Xander9009 » 25 Apr 2019, 03:28

After updating the CW, here's the wad with the insect types. I left the tokens as referencing butterflies for flavor, but they're technically handled as insects. They're custom cards anyway, so they don't need to be perfectly worded.

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Re: Formal Request Thread

Postby LexilconCondran » 25 Apr 2019, 03:57

[quote="Xander9009"]After updating the CW, here's the wad with the insect types. I left the tokens as referencing butterflies for flavor, but they're technically handled as insects. They're custom cards anyway, so they don't need to be perfectly worded.

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Just a question about Goldenrod, City of the Dead,
you excluded its weird ability from the list,
it was a protection buff that when it is targeted by any spell or ability, it exiles itself, then, you place a copy of it onto the battlefield under your control. i worded bad cause i forgot to personify what "exile it" was.

it still lets you sacrifice a creature for 2 mana, and lose 3 life, and grants +1/+1 to all hexproof creatures, maybe i could come up with something else for it. that may work instead

like if it becomes a target of any spell or ability, return it to its owners hand.

or one i like is, If Goldenrod, City of the Dead is put into a graveyard from anywhere, reveal Goldenrod, City of the Dead and put it into it's owners hand.
Rancor / Blightsteel Colossus


i know a fun one for it. Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
When Goldenrod, City of the Dead is put into a graveyard from anywhere, its owner shuffles their graveyard into their library.


^I think i'd be nice if it did that instead maybe
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Re: Formal Request Thread

Postby Xander9009 » 25 Apr 2019, 04:08

I just overlooked that bit. And hopefully those other issues cleared up after updating. I did test each card ( or at least most; it's possible I accidentally missed one or two while testing). They worked fine, though I wasn't super thorough.

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Re: Formal Request Thread

Postby LexilconCondran » 25 Apr 2019, 04:16

i'll be thorough xD
it seems like a pretty strong deck overall.
just looking around for anything, i listed a few things up above

like
Rhymythia the Bold and
(a * / * )( 1 + (life you gained this turn) / 1 + (life you gained this turn)
^Power and Toughness boosted by health per turn, they were getting the +1/+1 from Maga and the Moonlights kiss and Goldenrod.

I'll retest all of it after the wad downloads. :D
Moonflowers Herald
(a 0 / *) (1 + (life you gained this turn)


-Blue Moon, not sure why, i countered a spell to see if it would give 3 life, then at the end up my upkeep let me draw a card, but nothing happened.

i was kind of thinking it would be a dual sword card.
1 : when it comes into play, it counters target spell, and you gain 3 life.

Then 2. if its on the field, regardless of it coutners a spell, it is shuffled into your library at your endstep. and you draw a card. so you can play it to counter then draw a card.

or just play it to draw a card/place an enchantment for Dance of Rhymythia, which for me didnt spawn 1/1's when i played enchantments.

This is fun [did you put your credits in the card images
That would be cool.

--Got the wads and everything installed--
--Just giving feedback on my test--

i got it all installed and, insect does seem better to have
but for flavor the Butterfly token is still cool.

-{Rhymythia's gift didnt give me 3 life when i gave it away, when you cast rhymythias gift, target player gains control of it, and the caster gets 3 life. + opponents can use its counter to counter non instant / non sorcery spells]
^the counter worked xD that was funny

-{dance of rhymythias token ability worked now}

-{moon flowers heralds 0/* + {life gained} worked
its a 2/4 with my 1 life. and 2 moon kisses.

may take some additional testing but it's pretty fun
a giant swarm of giant butterflies.

[4 25 2019] [8:51.am]
---Still just need to get those few kinks worked out--
But heres the full deck, with 30 cards on its sideboard
https(dot)//drive(dot)google(dot)com/open?id=19oICK4x7YzwtFg_OIuEYPYvVrmAK1Ls9

11:41.am [just some update suggestions to the cards]
1: Goldenrod, City of the Dead could have, when Goldenrod, City of the Dead becomes the target of a spell or ability an opponent controls, shuffle Goldenrod, City of the Dead and its owners graveyard into their library.

2: blue moons 2nd power, wasnt letting me draw a card, it shuffles into the library, plays as an instant to counter a spell, and gives 3 life, but just didnt give a card when it shuffled

3: Moonlights kiss gave the butterflies from Flight of fancy that i gave to an opponent +1/+1 as well as my own butterflies, its only supposed to give creatures the user controls with hexproof +1/+1 but works like Goldenrod, City of the Dead and Maga Phonox.
^Also moonlights kiss's ability says shuffle moonlights herald in it.
xD
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messing with your opponents.
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Re: Formal Request Thread

Postby Xander9009 » 25 Apr 2019, 17:41

Blue Moon now shuffles and draws a card. It will only grant life if the ability resolves, and according to the rules of MTG, in any ability with at least one target, that ability will only resolve if at least one of those targets is still valid when it comes times to resolve. If you want it to grant life even if there's nothing to counter, you'll have to either reword it to "counter up to one target ...." or make the life gain a separate ability with its own enters the battlefield wording. Should I make it "up to"?

Rhymythia's Gift is fixed.

Moonlight's Kiss is fixed.

Goldenrod, City of the Dead: Should it still make copies or grant life gain? Or is this change just to make it work? Because it had a minor bug that prevented it from doing what it was supposed to, but that was easily fixed (one variable name was wrong).
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Re: Formal Request Thread

Postby LexilconCondran » 26 Apr 2019, 14:54

Xander9009 wrote:Blue Moon now shuffles and draws a card. It will only grant life if the ability resolves, and according to the rules of MTG, in any ability with at least one target, that ability will only resolve if at least one of those targets is still valid when it comes times to resolve. If you want it to grant life even if there's nothing to counter, you'll have to either reword it to "counter up to one target ...." or make the life gain a separate ability with its own enters the battlefield wording. Should I make it "up to"?

Rhymythia's Gift is fixed.

Moonlight's Kiss is fixed.

Goldenrod, City of the Dead: Should it still make copies or grant life gain? Or is this change just to make it work? Because it had a minor bug that prevented it from doing what it was supposed to, but that was easily fixed (one variable name was wrong).
For Goldenrod, City of the Dead, the way it was designed was permeable existence, cards that exile all, destroy all, can remove it, but anything that targets it, will exile it, then it creates a copy of itself, making it tough to deal with, and you gain 3 life.
Goldenrod and Maga buff all Hexproof creatures on the field, yours or an opponents. -Moonlights kiss was doing this to, but was supposed to only boost creatures you controlled, xD

Blue moon is a flash enchantment that, when it enters the battlefield, it counters target spell, and if it counters a spell you gain 3 life, other wise, if it enters, and counters nothing, you dont get 3 life.
but at the end of your upkeep, it is shuffled into your library regardless, and you draw a card <-- wasnt working.

But dude, these cards are so fun to play with.
i messed with the deck and created a sideboard for it.
It was super fun with Sword of Feast and Famine, and Sword of Body and Mind.

The main reason most butterfly tokens had defender was a nerf.
so you couldnt fully swarm, but the ones without like Rhymythia the Bold, he is so powerful. no trample though, but i got him up to a 32/32 just with gaining life. it was fun to mess around in a 4 way free for all match against bots.

Thank you so much for these cards. i told my friend how awesome it is.
coding must be tough though for the more unique ones.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=19oICK ... vVrmAK1Ls9 <-- [its all the files]
^ <-- [it has Maga Phonox the Personality, and Rhymythias Calling the Full Deck]
^ <-- With all the Stuff you made.
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This is the complete card listing for the deck:
1x - Maga Phonox, Dark Queen (MAGA_PHONOX_DARK_QUEEN_BTF)
1x - Goldenrod, City of the Dead (GOLDENROD_CITY_OF_THE_DEAD_BTF)
1x - Rhymythia, the Wise (RHYMYTHIA_THE_WISE_BTF)
2x - Samiria’s Grasp (SAMIRIAS_GRASP_BTF)
2x - Winter’s Chill (WINTERS_CHILL_BTF)
2x - Rhymythia’s Gift (RHYMYTHIAS_GIFT_BTF)
2x - Messenger’s Recourse (MESSENGERS_RECOURSE_BTF)
3x - Blue Moon (BLUE_MOON_BTF)
3x - Flight of the Fancy (FLIGHT_OF_THE_FANCY_BTF)
3x - Mailodia’s Kiss (MAILODIAS_KISS_BTF)
4x - Dance of Rhymythia (DANCE_OF_RHYMYTHIA_BTF)
4x - Rhymythia, the Bold (RHYMYTHIA_THE_BOLD_BTF)
4x - Moonlight’s Kiss (MOONLIGHTS_KISS_BTF)
4x - Moon Flower’s Herald (MOON_FLOWERS_HERALD_BTF)
4x - Lanterns of Goldenrod (LANTERNS_OF_GOLDENROD_BTF)

This is the complete card listing for the regular unlocks:
1x - Elixir of Immortality (ELIXIR_OF_IMMORTALITY_345336)
1x - Elixir of Immortality (ELIXIR_OF_IMMORTALITY_345336)
1x - Time Walk (TIME_WALK_628490)
1x - Time Walk (TIME_WALK_628490)
1x - Timetwister (TIMETWISTER_628496)
1x - Timetwister (TIMETWISTER_628496)
1x - Samiria’s Grasp (SAMIRIAS_GRASP_BTF)
1x - Winter’s Chill (WINTERS_CHILL_BTF)
1x - Rhymythia’s Gift (RHYMYTHIAS_GIFT_BTF)
1x - Messenger’s Recourse (MESSENGERS_RECOURSE_BTF)
1x - Fated Infatuation (FATED_INFATUATION_628704)
1x - Fated Infatuation (FATED_INFATUATION_628704)
1x - Phyrexian Metamorph (PHYREXIAN_METAMORPH_627004)
1x - Phyrexian Metamorph (PHYREXIAN_METAMORPH_627004)
1x - Curse of the Swine (CURSE_OF_THE_SWINE_628687)
1x - Curse of the Swine (CURSE_OF_THE_SWINE_628687)
1x - Curse of the Swine (CURSE_OF_THE_SWINE_628687)
1x - Tormod’s Crypt (TORMODS_CRYPT_888279713)
1x - Tormod’s Crypt (TORMODS_CRYPT_888279713)
1x - Æther Tradewinds (AETHER_TRADEWINDS_628615)
1x - Æther Tradewinds (AETHER_TRADEWINDS_628615)
1x - Æther Tradewinds (AETHER_TRADEWINDS_628615)
1x - Invisible Stalker (INVISIBLE_STALKER_277041)
1x - Invisible Stalker (INVISIBLE_STALKER_277041)
1x - Invisible Stalker (INVISIBLE_STALKER_277041)
1x - Sword of Feast and Famine (SWORD_OF_FEAST_AND_FAMINE_628050)
1x - Sword of Feast and Famine (SWORD_OF_FEAST_AND_FAMINE_628050)
1x - Sword of Body and Mind (SWORD_OF_BODY_AND_MIND_277309)
1x - Sword of Body and Mind (SWORD_OF_BODY_AND_MIND_277309)
1x - Coat of Arms (COAT_OF_ARMS_349283)

This Wad depends on these wads to be installed for the cards used in this deck:
DATA_DECKS_2012_CARDS
Data_Decks_2013_GXSC_MAIN
DATA_DECKS_D14
DATA_DLC_BTF
DATA_DLC_KEV
DATA_DLC_S62
DATA_DLC_VXP_OTHER
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Re: Formal Request Thread

Postby Xander9009 » 26 Apr 2019, 18:28

I understood the idea behind Goldenrod, I just wasn't sure what your preference was. You said that it "could have" this new ability, but not whether or not that's actually what you want. For the moment, it's coded as it was originally worded, but it'll be an easy change to make if you want it to have the version from a few posts up. (I also fixed a missing text tag, and Goldenrod, in addition to not being exiled, also wasn't granting life; now it's doing both.) Just let me know what you actually *want* it to be, and I'll see about getting it changed.

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Re: Formal Request Thread

Postby LexilconCondran » 26 Apr 2019, 19:53

Xander9009 wrote:I understood the idea behind Goldenrod, I just wasn't sure what your preference was. You said that it "could have" this new ability, but not whether or not that's actually what you want. For the moment, it's coded as it was originally worded, but it'll be an easy change to make if you want it to have the version from a few posts up. (I also fixed a missing text tag, and Goldenrod, in addition to not being exiled, also wasn't granting life; now it's doing both.) Just let me know what you actually *want* it to be, and I'll see about getting it changed.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1aX-4d ... 8U5-oRxkmu
Actually, Goldenrod, City of the Dead is good as is, but, it inspired a new card
https://mtgcardsmith.com/view/magas-haunted-library

----i updated it with the image and new card--
https://drive.google.com/open?id=19oICK ... vVrmAK1Ls9

Maga's Haunted Library
--Legendary Land--

{t} Add {1} to your mana pool
{1}, Sacrifice a land and draw a card, then
shuffle a card from your hand into your library

When Maga's Haunted Library is put into a
graveyard from anywhere, each player shuffles
their graveyard into their library.

"Anyone is welcome, but nobody is allowed to leave"

a really strange card to have, as it shuffles everyones graveyard into their libraries

--Maga's Haunted Library synergizes well with the Lanterns of Goldenrod card--
So much synergy in 1 deck, and with Maga's Haunted Library, it can really make the match weird
Granting opponents monsters, or life, or shuffling their graveyard into their hands.
i kinda wonder what else can be done with such a strange set up

https://mtgcardsmith.com/view/thorn-rose-of-the-moon

Thorn Rose of the Moon
--Legendary Land--

{t} Add {1} to your mana pool
Whenever a creature enters the battlefield
under your control, each player loses 1 life

Whenever a creature you control dies, each
player may not gain life this turn and loses 1 life

"You must pay in blood, to embrace its true beauty"

What about that one as well xD 2 legendary land cards based around the theme of Goldenrod and Maga Phonox
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Re: Formal Request Thread

Postby LexilconCondran » 26 Apr 2019, 23:35

is there anyway to fix these?
When i load Dotp Riaaks deck builder, this is the messages i get
4/26/2019 6:32:57 PM: Low: Card (BRAVE_THE_ELEMENTS_99185734) in Wad DATA_DECKS_2012_CARDS is using the AI_SIMPLIFIED_TARGETING tag incorrectly (will likely result in this piece not working properly in game).

4/26/2019 6:32:57 PM: Low: Card (ELECTROPOTENCE_99191373) in Wad DATA_DECKS_2012_CARDS is using the AI_SIMPLIFIED_TARGETING tag incorrectly (will likely result in this piece not working properly in game).

4/26/2019 6:32:57 PM: Low: Card (SHAPE_ANEW_99194201) in Wad DATA_DECKS_2012_CARDS is using the AI_SIMPLIFIED_TARGETING tag incorrectly (will likely result in this piece not working properly in game).

4/26/2019 6:32:57 PM: Low: Card (BRAVE_THE_ELEMENTS_99185734) in Wad Data_Decks_2012_PROMOS is using the AI_SIMPLIFIED_TARGETING tag incorrectly (will likely result in this piece not working properly in game).

4/26/2019 6:32:57 PM: Low: Card (FEEDING_FRENZY_99041169) in Wad Data_Decks_2012_PROMOS is using the AI_SIMPLIFIED_TARGETING tag incorrectly (will likely result in this piece not working properly in game).

4/26/2019 6:32:58 PM: Low: Card (INFILTRATE_99021286) in Wad Data_Decks_2013_GXSC_MAIN is using the AI_SIMPLIFIED_TARGETING tag incorrectly (will likely result in this piece not working properly in game).

4/26/2019 6:32:58 PM: Low: Card (SMELT_99370784) in Wad Data_Decks_2013_GXSC_MAIN is using the AI_SIMPLIFIED_TARGETING tag incorrectly (will likely result in this piece not working properly in game).

4/26/2019 6:32:59 PM: Low: Card (NEO_ALA_086_SHADOWFEED_575177473) in Wad DATA_DLC_575_SHARDS OF ALARA is using the AI_SIMPLIFIED_TARGETING tag incorrectly (will likely result in this piece not working properly in game).

4/26/2019 6:32:59 PM: Low: Card (NEO_ALA_158_BRANCHING_BOLT_575177602) in Wad DATA_DLC_575_SHARDS OF ALARA is using the AI_SIMPLIFIED_TARGETING tag incorrectly (will likely result in this piece not working properly in game).

4/26/2019 6:32:59 PM: Low: Card (NEO_ALA_158_BRANCHING_BOLT_575177602) in Wad DATA_DLC_575_SHARDS OF ALARA is using the AI_SIMPLIFIED_TARGETING tag incorrectly (will likely result in this piece not working properly in game).

4/26/2019 6:32:59 PM: Low: Card (NEO_ALA_158_BRANCHING_BOLT_575177602) in Wad DATA_DLC_575_SHARDS OF ALARA is using the AI_SIMPLIFIED_TARGETING tag incorrectly (will likely result in this piece not working properly in game).

4/26/2019 6:32:59 PM: Low: Card (NEO_ALA_158_BRANCHING_BOLT_575177602) in Wad DATA_DLC_575_SHARDS OF ALARA is using the AI_SIMPLIFIED_TARGETING tag incorrectly (will likely result in this piece not working properly in game).

4/26/2019 6:33:00 PM: Low: Card (BNG_089_NEO_BOLT_OF_KERANOS_999378461) in Wad DATA_DLC_588_BORN_OF_THE_GODS is using the AI_SIMPLIFIED_TARGETING tag incorrectly (will likely result in this piece not working properly in game).
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