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[REL] Riiak Shi Nal's DotP 2014 DLC v2.1.1

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Re: [REL] Riiak Shi Nal's DotP 2014 DLC v2.1

Postby drleg3nd » 08 Dec 2013, 18:41

hey Riiak are you making a version 2.2 to overwrite mana from newest deck pack ?
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Re: [REL] Riiak Shi Nal's DotP 2014 DLC v2.1

Postby RiiakShiNal » 08 Dec 2013, 21:41

I may be able to once I get my hard drive problems solved (the first replacement drive I got was bad so I had to get it replaced as well). Currently, I'm cloning the old drive (while ignoring read errors, currently at ~13% with 8 bad sectors) so that I can keep as much of my old information as possible. Once I get that done then I have to deal with the files that went bad (due to bad sectors) of which there are several (including some driver related files). Once that is done then I have some burn-in tests to run and verify everything is working as it should. Then I should be ready to start getting some things updated. At the moment though I'm basically still down as far as development goes.

Due note though that version numbers are independent between my mods so just updating the manual mana functions mod to v2.2 does not mean that the core mod will also be updated to v2.2.
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Re: [REL] Riiak Shi Nal's DotP 2014 DLC v2.1

Postby binibirocha » 09 Jan 2014, 19:08

RiiakShiNal wrote:
binibirocha wrote:Thanks. Could you also include all the scry lands from Theros and all 10 shocklands from RTR because the only land I see is Blood Crypt. I wish you luck resolving your hard drive issues.
Once I've had a chance to replace the hard drive and pull the data off of it it should be pretty easy (all the hard work is already done, it's just a matter of generating the card, then copying abilities from other cards), though there are only 5 shocklands in Return to Ravnica, the other 5 are in Gatecrash.

For example to make Breeding Pool you can copy the manual mana abilities from Simic Guildgate and the ETB from Blood Crypt. To make Temple of Abandon copy Gruul Guildgate then add an ETB Scry 1 from pretty much any card with Scry (it's pretty easy to change from a SPELL_ABILITY to a TRIGGERED_ABILITY if copying from an Instant or Sorcery).
I just did all of that and used TFM's Web Generator for cards, resized pictures to 512x376, and used your modified Gibbed tools for TDX conversion. :)
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Re: [REL] Riiak Shi Nal's DotP 2014 DLC v2.1

Postby 3AQ7 » 05 Feb 2014, 02:36

Hi, I'm new. I've been lurking for a while, figuring out how coding works and such.

Anyway, after installing the manual mana functions, the AI seems to act very slowly. For example, it would think for several seconds during its 2nd main phase, and then finally play a land and resume thinking. These pauses seem to start only after the 2nd or 3rd turn.

edit: Starting to think it might not have anything to do with the manual mana functions. I took out one of my custom cards that was causing error logs, and now the AI seems normal again. Weird thing is, that card isn't even a part of the deck I was using. I'll keep testing.

edit2: The problem is back. After about turn 3, the AI takes a long time during every decision. Also, it happens for every match, regardless of decks. I tested this using the default Sigismund deck vs the default Girundar deck. My computer fans go crazy when the AI is thinking! Dunno why this is happening, dunno how to fix it =/
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Re: [REL] Riiak Shi Nal's DotP 2014 DLC v2.1

Postby RiiakShiNal » 05 Feb 2014, 15:41

The AI will spend some more time thinking about how to use Manual Mana as the engine does not have innate support for it. I have tried to limit how much it will think as much as I can without limiting where it is actually allowed to use the mana (this is why all manual mana abilities have large sets of AI_AVAILABILITY blocks) though even then I have still limited it a little. Due to forcing manual tapping of mana the AI thinks it has more activated abilities it can use and thus needs to consider all of them. Additionally because the AI sees that you have more activated abilities it also has to consider those when trying to think about how you can/will respond. If the engine had proper MANA_ABILITY support or a way to tell it that certain other abilities are mana abilities so that it could ignore them when not necessary it would improve performance, but the DotP engine has no such support and we can't change it because we don't control the engine code.

As for why your fans are going crazy that could be either software (software could cause the fans to speed up with higher CPU usage) or hardware related (hardware forces the fans to spin up due to increased temperatures due to higher CPU usage).

Though the problem also could manifest with cards that do not specify AI_AVAILABILITY blocks (could be from any mod) for their activated abilities as then the AI has to think about them every time it or you could possibly use any ability. The more possible interactions the AI has to consider the more time it has to spend thinking. So Manual Mana will emphasize any performance issues with cards lacking proper AI_AVAILABILITY blocks due to the greatly increased possible interactions.
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Re: [REL] Riiak Shi Nal's DotP 2014 DLC v2.1.1

Postby RiiakShiNal » 02 Oct 2014, 23:54

Update to fix the bug with Ashnod's Altar requiring to tap to activate. Thanks to MasterXploder7 for reporting.
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Re: [REL] Riiak Shi Nal's DotP 2014 DLC v2.1.1

Postby demeitri1 » 24 Oct 2014, 18:12

| Open
10/24/2014 1:57:26 PM: Log Opened.

10/24/2014 1:57:26 PM: Low: Can't find referenced card: DRUIDIC_SATCHEL_375119 for deck D14_100007_AGGRESSIVE_MINING in Data_Decks_100007_AGGRESSIVE_MINING

10/24/2014 1:57:26 PM: Low: Can't find referenced card: SOLEMN_SIMULACRUM_375121 for deck D14_100007_AGGRESSIVE_MINING in Data_Decks_100007_AGGRESSIVE_MINING

10/24/2014 1:57:26 PM: Low: Can't find referenced card: SOLEMN_SIMULACRUM_375121 for deck D14_100007_AGGRESSIVE_MINING in Data_Decks_100007_AGGRESSIVE_MINING

10/24/2014 1:57:26 PM: Low: Can't find referenced card: SOLEMN_SIMULACRUM_375121 for deck D14_100007_AGGRESSIVE_MINING in Data_Decks_100007_AGGRESSIVE_MINING

10/24/2014 1:57:26 PM: Low: Can't find referenced card: SOLEMN_SIMULACRUM_375121 for deck D14_100007_AGGRESSIVE_MINING in Data_Decks_100007_AGGRESSIVE_MINING

10/24/2014 1:57:26 PM: Low: Can't find referenced card: ARCHON_OF_REDEMPTION_375050 for deck D14_100008_ANGELIC_CHORUS in Data_Decks_100008_ANGELIC_CHORUS

10/24/2014 1:57:26 PM: Low: Can't find referenced card: ARCHON_OF_REDEMPTION_375050 for deck D14_100008_ANGELIC_CHORUS in Data_Decks_100008_ANGELIC_CHORUS

10/24/2014 1:57:26 PM: Low: Can't find referenced card: EMANCIPATION_ANGEL_373710 for deck D14_100008_ANGELIC_CHORUS in Data_Decks_100008_ANGELIC_CHORUS

10/24/2014 1:57:26 PM: Low: Can't find referenced card: EMANCIPATION_ANGEL_373710 for deck D14_100008_ANGELIC_CHORUS in Data_Decks_100008_ANGELIC_CHORUS

10/24/2014 1:57:26 PM: Low: Can't find referenced card: EMANCIPATION_ANGEL_373710 for deck D14_100008_ANGELIC_CHORUS in Data_Decks_100008_ANGELIC_CHORUS

10/24/2014 1:57:26 PM: Low: Can't find referenced card: EMANCIPATION_ANGEL_373710 for deck D14_100008_ANGELIC_CHORUS in Data_Decks_100008_ANGELIC_CHORUS

10/24/2014 1:57:26 PM: Low: Can't find referenced card: SOLEMN_SIMULACRUM_375121 for deck D14_100008_ANGELIC_CHORUS in Data_Decks_100008_ANGELIC_CHORUS

10/24/2014 1:57:26 PM: Low: Can't find referenced card: SOLEMN_SIMULACRUM_375121 for deck D14_100008_ANGELIC_CHORUS in Data_Decks_100008_ANGELIC_CHORUS

10/24/2014 1:57:27 PM: Low: Can't find referenced card: SOLEMN_SIMULACRUM_375121 for deck D14_100008_ANGELIC_CHORUS in Data_Decks_100008_ANGELIC_CHORUS

10/24/2014 1:57:27 PM: Low: Can't find referenced card: SOLEMN_SIMULACRUM_375121 for deck D14_100008_ANGELIC_CHORUS in Data_Decks_100008_ANGELIC_CHORUS


when i open the deck builder this error pops up... (the log is in the spoiler above) whats this about? i dont see evolving wilds and some other stuff etc in the card list btw
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Re: [REL] Riiak Shi Nal's DotP 2014 DLC v2.1.1

Postby Kithkin » 24 Oct 2014, 22:40

demeitri1 wrote:
| Open
10/24/2014 1:57:26 PM: Log Opened.

10/24/2014 1:57:26 PM: Low: Can't find referenced card: DRUIDIC_SATCHEL_375119 for deck D14_100007_AGGRESSIVE_MINING in Data_Decks_100007_AGGRESSIVE_MINING

10/24/2014 1:57:26 PM: Low: Can't find referenced card: SOLEMN_SIMULACRUM_375121 for deck D14_100007_AGGRESSIVE_MINING in Data_Decks_100007_AGGRESSIVE_MINING

10/24/2014 1:57:26 PM: Low: Can't find referenced card: SOLEMN_SIMULACRUM_375121 for deck D14_100007_AGGRESSIVE_MINING in Data_Decks_100007_AGGRESSIVE_MINING

10/24/2014 1:57:26 PM: Low: Can't find referenced card: SOLEMN_SIMULACRUM_375121 for deck D14_100007_AGGRESSIVE_MINING in Data_Decks_100007_AGGRESSIVE_MINING

10/24/2014 1:57:26 PM: Low: Can't find referenced card: SOLEMN_SIMULACRUM_375121 for deck D14_100007_AGGRESSIVE_MINING in Data_Decks_100007_AGGRESSIVE_MINING

10/24/2014 1:57:26 PM: Low: Can't find referenced card: ARCHON_OF_REDEMPTION_375050 for deck D14_100008_ANGELIC_CHORUS in Data_Decks_100008_ANGELIC_CHORUS

10/24/2014 1:57:26 PM: Low: Can't find referenced card: ARCHON_OF_REDEMPTION_375050 for deck D14_100008_ANGELIC_CHORUS in Data_Decks_100008_ANGELIC_CHORUS

10/24/2014 1:57:26 PM: Low: Can't find referenced card: EMANCIPATION_ANGEL_373710 for deck D14_100008_ANGELIC_CHORUS in Data_Decks_100008_ANGELIC_CHORUS

10/24/2014 1:57:26 PM: Low: Can't find referenced card: EMANCIPATION_ANGEL_373710 for deck D14_100008_ANGELIC_CHORUS in Data_Decks_100008_ANGELIC_CHORUS

10/24/2014 1:57:26 PM: Low: Can't find referenced card: EMANCIPATION_ANGEL_373710 for deck D14_100008_ANGELIC_CHORUS in Data_Decks_100008_ANGELIC_CHORUS

10/24/2014 1:57:26 PM: Low: Can't find referenced card: EMANCIPATION_ANGEL_373710 for deck D14_100008_ANGELIC_CHORUS in Data_Decks_100008_ANGELIC_CHORUS

10/24/2014 1:57:26 PM: Low: Can't find referenced card: SOLEMN_SIMULACRUM_375121 for deck D14_100008_ANGELIC_CHORUS in Data_Decks_100008_ANGELIC_CHORUS

10/24/2014 1:57:26 PM: Low: Can't find referenced card: SOLEMN_SIMULACRUM_375121 for deck D14_100008_ANGELIC_CHORUS in Data_Decks_100008_ANGELIC_CHORUS

10/24/2014 1:57:27 PM: Low: Can't find referenced card: SOLEMN_SIMULACRUM_375121 for deck D14_100008_ANGELIC_CHORUS in Data_Decks_100008_ANGELIC_CHORUS

10/24/2014 1:57:27 PM: Low: Can't find referenced card: SOLEMN_SIMULACRUM_375121 for deck D14_100008_ANGELIC_CHORUS in Data_Decks_100008_ANGELIC_CHORUS


when i open the deck builder this error pops up... (the log is in the spoiler above) whats this about? i dont see evolving wilds and some other stuff etc in the card list btw
It seems you have VXP decks installed but not the VXP core wad.
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Re: [REL] Riiak Shi Nal's DotP 2014 DLC v2.1.1

Postby RiiakShiNal » 24 Oct 2014, 23:31

That error log is saying that it couldn't find certain cards such as Solemn Simulacrum, Emancipation Angel, Archon of Redemption, and Druidic Satchel, but there are decks trying to use those cards, this usually means that you are either missing a mod or one is outdated and missing cards.

Kithkin is probably correct in that you either need to get or update the VXP core wad.

Also Evolving Wilds has never been in my DotP 2014 mod.
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Re: [REL] Riiak Shi Nal's DotP 2014 DLC v2.1.1

Postby demeitri1 » 25 Oct 2014, 05:51

RiiakShiNal wrote:That error log is saying that it couldn't find certain cards such as Solemn Simulacrum, Emancipation Angel, Archon of Redemption, and Druidic Satchel, but there are decks trying to use those cards, this usually means that you are either missing a mod or one is outdated and missing cards.

Kithkin is probably correct in that you either need to get or update the VXP core wad.

Also Evolving Wilds has never been in my DotP 2014 mod.
ok i could have sworn i downloaded all of his wads though... amma check it out... thank you
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