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[fixed/closed] EDH with sou providing mana of any color

PostPosted: 16 Jan 2014, 09:56
by 0rion79
I'm experimenting bugs with EDH format, when I include in my deck artifacts as Coalition Relic or lands, as Transguild Promenade, since the AI claims that those cards have illegal colors.
Also, when it does, the game freezes or quits unexpectedly or I start the game as usual, but I have only Rules Engine on the battlefield and the EDH card and all the copies of my chosen commander are in the deck. I can occasionally fix this by adding the EDH card on the battlefield through cheats.

See attached image.

Re: [still bugged] EDH with sources providing mana of any co

PostPosted: 16 Jan 2014, 10:04
by stassy
You using CIAv2?

Re: [still bugged] EDH with sources providing mana of any co

PostPosted: 16 Jan 2014, 10:05
by 0rion79
What is the CIA? Please, don't use acronyms

Re: [still bugged] EDH with sources providing mana of any co

PostPosted: 16 Jan 2014, 10:27
by BAgate
It's the acronym for the latest version. It's a lot easier than typing "Commanding the revision of Ice Age Version 2".

Re: [still bugged] EDH with sources providing mana of any co

PostPosted: 16 Jan 2014, 11:09
by Korath
Can't repro.

Re: [unconfirmed] EDH with sou providing mana of any color

PostPosted: 16 Jan 2014, 14:29
by 0rion79
Yes, I'm using the latest version. it happens occasionally and I can't save the game, anyway.

Re: [unconfirmed] EDH with sou providing mana of any color

PostPosted: 16 Jan 2014, 17:15
by Aswan jaguar
I confirm that sometimes it doesn't work correctly and finds cards that provide all colours of mana illegal without of course having in their text the illegal mana symbols.In the following deck it has found illegal the usual Chromatic Star and Lotus Bloom when I played the first duel of the game I continued instead of ending the game, in the 2nd duel everything worked fine and in the 3nd duel I got the message in the screenshot:illegal City of Brass.
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I continued 4th duel(I played best of 5)and it didn't find anything illegal!


EDIT I found the problem why only sometimes finds the cards illegal and others not.It has been fixed to check the cards in library but NOT in hand so if a card that produces other colour than your General and is in your opening hand is found illegal.Although I really don't get why colorless mana is considered illegal.In following screenshot it finds illegal my Wooded Bastion (General is Doran,the Siege Tower.):
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Re: [confirmed] EDH with sou providing mana of any color

PostPosted: 16 Jan 2014, 20:02
by Korath
Well-spotted. I see what's wrong; fixed in 003698f.

Re: [fixed by korath] EDH with sou providing mana of any col

PostPosted: 17 Jan 2014, 08:33
by 0rion79
Untrustworthy people :) (just joking)
PS: I'm so sad about the latest banned cards from EDH! But it is not the place to discuss about this. Just wished to share.

Re: [fixed by korath] EDH with sou providing mana of any col

PostPosted: 17 Jan 2014, 10:16
by stassy
Share your EDH decks then :P

Re: [fixed by korath] EDH with sou providing mana of any col

PostPosted: 17 Jan 2014, 15:05
by Aswan jaguar
0rion79 wrote:Untrustworthy people :) (just joking)
PS: I'm so sad about the latest banned cards from EDH! But it is not the place to discuss about this. Just wished to share.
About the illegal cards:
EDH rules
The following is the official banned list for commander games. These cards (and others like them) should not be played without prior agreement from the other players in the game.

So since we play against AI we could have a prior agreement :lol: and play with cards as we wish. :wink:
The same for Generals (may says it all):
EDH rules
Additionally the following legends may not be used as a Commander.

The question is,would it be easy or appealing enough for our Developers to make it configurable?

Re: [fixed by korath] EDH with sou providing mana of any col

PostPosted: 17 Jan 2014, 15:23
by Korath
The proper way to do it would be to make it look at the "(EDH) Commander" and "(HI / EDH) Legal as Commander" columns in manalink.csv, so folks who feel strongly about the banlist can tinker with it themselves.

Easy? Enh. It'd take maybe half a day, so not difficult. Easier to make another EDH card that doesn't enforce the banlist at all.
Appealing? Not to me; I don't play Commander.

Re: [fixed by korath] EDH with sou providing mana of any col

PostPosted: 17 Jan 2014, 16:30
by 0rion79
Personally I love commander because it lasts longer than 1.5 format and has the same feeling of the first, old days of Magic the Gathering where we were forced to use a war mammoth together with a serra angel for lack of choice. But I would feel very uncomfortable in editing files that would be reset at each new patch. Better to follow the official rules and amen, hoping that they won't change it every week.
PS: never understood why they have never banned Serra Ascendant , that starts as a 6/6 for W at 1st hand.... WotC's miseries, I bet!

Re: [fixed by korath] EDH with sou providing mana of any col

PostPosted: 16 Mar 2014, 11:09
by Nexhro
Fixed as of Born of the Gods v1.