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[inadequate info]Life from the Loam

Posted:
13 Sep 2014, 23:26
by Nexhro
Describe the Bug:Life from the Loam does't ask for targets and hence doesn't return anything from its controller's graveyard to his/her hand.
Which card did behave improperly ?Life from the LoamWhich update are you using?(date,name)Which type(Duel,Gauntlet,Sealed Deck)CoRM15, duel
What exactly should be the correct behavior/interaction ?Life from the Loam asks for targets.
Are any other cards possibly affected by this bug ?-
Re: [confirmed]Life from the Loam

Posted:
13 Sep 2014, 23:31
by BAgate
It asked or targets in a clean game, it just didn't return anything.
Re: [confirmed]Life from the Loam

Posted:
13 Sep 2014, 23:44
by Nexhro
Here's another savegame where it does ask for targets and returns 1, 2 or 3 cards depending on choice... Not sure what makes it work or hinders it from working. Maybe it only works when there are exactly 3 lands in the gy?
Re: [confirmed]Life from the Loam

Posted:
13 Sep 2014, 23:49
by BAgate
Funny, I load your 2nd savegame and it doesn't let me target more than 1 card or return anything. I'm stumped.
Re: [confirmed]Life from the Loam

Posted:
13 Sep 2014, 23:57
by Nexhro
Have you tried restarting the client? Or have I missed another hotfix?
In the first savegame Loam still doesn't ask me for targets and just goes to gy. Could be the land count in graveyard or, like so often when bugs occur and disappear between EDH games, a flag issue.
Re: [confirmed]Life from the Loam

Posted:
14 Sep 2014, 00:05
by BAgate
I had restarted the client. Try your second save again. And if you find a case where
Life from the Loam works, try
Regrowth and see if it works in that case. I'm punting this one to the devs.
Re: [confirmed]Life from the Loam

Posted:
14 Sep 2014, 00:19
by Nexhro
Nope,
Regrowth doesn't work in LifeLoam2 - separate issue, it seems.
Re: [confirmed]Life from the Loam

Posted:
14 Sep 2014, 10:02
by Aswan jaguar
For me in a clean game it worked fine even when dredged and then played still worked fine.
Edit: I tested your first savegame and
I found the problem the graveyard has too many cards for Life from the Loam prompt to open it. I used
Feldon's Cane to shuffle the graveyard into the library then I discarded land and
Life from the Loam worked like a charm.
Re: [confirmed]Life from the Loam

Posted:
14 Sep 2014, 10:43
by BAgate
Huh, you're right. I never knew there was that limit. Do you know what the number is?
Re: [not a bug]Life from the Loam

Posted:
14 Sep 2014, 10:57
by Aswan jaguar
Well I could be wrong and the problem is a card in the graveyard.
I tried with 50 cards in graveyard (with the same savegame provided)and still there was a problem
Life from the Loam went to graveyard right away.
Re: [not a bug]Life from the Loam

Posted:
14 Sep 2014, 10:58
by Aswan jaguar
Well I could be wrong and the problem is a card in the graveyard.
I tried with 50 cards in graveyard (with the same savegame provided)and still there was a problem
Life from the Loam went to graveyard right away.
EDIT: So don't tag it as not a bug to hear what our Devs have to say about it.
Re: [not a bug]Life from the Loam

Posted:
14 Sep 2014, 11:32
by Nexhro
I've often had many cards in the graveyard in EDH decks that use
Life from the Loam and the card has always worked fine, so I somehow doubt that this is due to some client-based card limit.
The graveyard viewer that is used for target selection is the same as the libraray viewer that is used for fetching. From my experience this means that the gy viewer can view any number of cards. You can try
Eternal Witness or
All Suns' Dawn in that savegame, which work (Dawn is bugged as for what it returns, though).
Re: [confirmed]Life from the Loam

Posted:
27 Nov 2015, 19:58
by Korath
The save files are invalid, there isn't enough information to repro, and there's no revision for months in either direction from CoRM that builds.