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Re: [confirmed]Capsize + Howlpack of Estwald

PostPosted: 06 Mar 2012, 14:35
by Enchanteur
Hey !
Add this to the puzzle challenge ! :D

I'm bad, I don't find.
Twenty years of magic playing, and no progress !! :cry:

[1,2 not bugs 3fixed-Damnation,Myr Enforcer,Chord of calling

PostPosted: 06 Mar 2012, 14:47
by Enchanteur
Damnation / Myr Enforcer / Chord of calling

Describe the Bug:
I just can't play Damnation, even with the mana for that.
(And of course, at the worst moment of a challenge).
Same bug with others cards.

Which card did behave improperly ?
I'm not sure it's Damnation (I doubt the card work bad).
Sometimes, the game enter a strange state, and you can't cast spells.
Spells stay "white" in the hand, instead of becoming "yellow" for the spells you could potentialy cast.

Which update are you using?(date,name)Which type(Duel,Gauntlet,Sealed Deck)
Manalink 3.0 CirothUngol version, Gauntlet (Damnation, Myr Enforcer), Sealed Deck (Chord of calling).

What exactly should be the correct behavior/interaction ?
Cast the spell if you can (Mana ok).

Are any other cards possibly affected by this bug ?
I had the same bug one time with Myr Enforcer (added in savegame files).
Myr Enforcer work well majority of time, but not this one.
I had the same bug with chord of calling too (added in savegame files).
I never casted Chord of calling otherwise, so I don't know if this card work sometimes.

Re: Spider spawning

PostPosted: 06 Mar 2012, 14:52
by Aswan jaguar
Most probably the token isn't coded yet.

Re: [confirmed]Rancor + Unearth

PostPosted: 06 Mar 2012, 15:27
by Aswan jaguar
I confirm the bug although savegame is one turn late and could not check it.

Re: [confirmed]Stitched Drake

PostPosted: 06 Mar 2012, 15:38
by Aswan jaguar
This was reported and had to be fixed but maybe it was a victim of the changes from Manalink 2.0 to Manalink 3.0.

Re: Damnation / Myr Enforcer / Chord of calling

PostPosted: 06 Mar 2012, 16:03
by Aswan jaguar
1-I don't confirm Damnation there is Lodestone Golem in play so you have to pay 1 more mana.
2-I don't confirm Myr Enforcer either I cast it in your savegame I guess you tried to do when the artifact land came in play and was on stack(that is a bug but unfixable) and you weren't allowed to cast it as instant of course.

Re: Damnation / Myr Enforcer / Chord of calling

PostPosted: 06 Mar 2012, 16:07
by Enchanteur
Right ! I forget the Lodestone Golem ! so bad.
And it's possible I casted enforcer with this story of artifact land in the stack, I don't remember.

Re: [confirmed]Honden of Life's Web

PostPosted: 07 Mar 2012, 02:17
by Sonic
The card needs recoding.
There used to be a separate 'Spirit' token for Honden of Life's Web, specifically because it produces a flightless colorless spirit.
All 'spirit' tokens are now produced from a single standardized token slot - so Honden of Life's Web token has to have it's abilities and color changed within the coding.

[Gargaroz fixed all]Temporal Aperture

PostPosted: 07 Mar 2012, 09:39
by Enchanteur
Time Spiral + Temporal Aperture

Describe the Bug:
It's not really a bug, it's a rule problem.
WOC made an errata for cards like Time Spiral, so they untaped lands only when played from hand.
But in 2006, this errata was removed.
So, when Time Spiral is played by the Temporal Aperture capacity, it should untap lands !

Which card did behave improperly ?
Rules about cards that untap lands when played from anywhere.

Which update are you using?(date,name)Which type(Duel,Gauntlet,Sealed Deck)
Manalink 3.0 CirothUngol version, Gauntlet "ABC"

What exactly should be the correct behavior/interaction ?
Remove of the errata is mentioned here (and in other places of internet).
Subject: 2.1.05: 1998
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/games/magic-t-g/rules/part2/

Are any other cards possibly affected by this bug ?
All cards that untap lands I suppose : Treachery for sure.
Probably : Snap, Palinchron, Frantic Search, Cloud of Faeries, Great Whale, Rewind, Peregrine Drake.

Re: Time Spiral + Temporal Aperture

PostPosted: 07 Mar 2012, 10:23
by stassy
Well, it's a bug, since new and current rules allow to untap land and Temporal Aperture allow you to play the top card of your library but in ML you are able to play more than 2 lands which is forbidden unless another card say so

You can use this savegame as it's also related to the previous Enchanteur's report :
download/file.php?id=5482

Re: [confirmed]Temporal Aperture

PostPosted: 07 Mar 2012, 11:03
by Enchanteur
Hello Stassy. Yes, I use savegames now, but not here, for exception, because temporal aperture always give a random card, so I thinked it was not necessary.

Re: [confirmed]Temporal Aperture

PostPosted: 07 Mar 2012, 13:54
by stassy
Well, thanks to this save, I was able to spot the Temporal Aperture bug (by debug untapping it and triggering it several times) though this bug is kinda tricky because it work like a debug mode, it just put the permanent into play and several card feature are ignored.

Re: [confirmed]Honden of Life's Web

PostPosted: 07 Mar 2012, 14:45
by Gargaroz
Already fixed.

Re: [confirmed]Stitched Drake

PostPosted: 07 Mar 2012, 14:53
by Gargaroz
Fixed.

Re: [confirmed]Rancor + Unearth

PostPosted: 07 Mar 2012, 15:00
by Gargaroz
Fixed.