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[fixed by Gargaroz]Duplicant

PostPosted: 17 Jul 2012, 00:57
by ALEX Ryugami
Describe the Bug:
When Duplicant exiles a creature with variable power/toughness (like Psychosis Crawler), the creature isn't exiled and Duplicant's power/toughness becomes */* instead of some number

Which card did behave improperly ?
Duplicant

Which update are you using?(date,name)Which type(Duel,Gauntlet,Sealed Deck)
ML.3.0 Kamigawa V2 CirothUngol's Version

What exactly should be the correct behavior/interaction ?
I'm not sure about this one, but Duplicant's new power/toughness should be same as the creature's current power/toughness

Are any other cards possibly affected by this bug ?
I think no

[fixed by Gargaroz]Sewer Nemesis

PostPosted: 17 Jul 2012, 04:50
by stassy
Describe the Bug:
Sewer Nemesis crash the game by just being in player/AI deck at sorcery phase

Which card did behave improperly ?
Sewer Nemesis

Which update are you using?(date,name)Which type(Duel,Gauntlet,Sealed Deck)
KamiV2

What exactly should be the correct behavior/interaction ?
Sewer Nemesis don't crash the game by just being in player/AI deck at sorcery phase

Are any other cards possibly affected by this bug ?
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Re: Another Duplicant Bug

PostPosted: 17 Jul 2012, 05:07
by Aswan jaguar
I haven't search this but sounds like correct the way it works as Psychosis Crawler p/t is x/x and Duplicant emprints only p/t and creature types not the ability of that creature so enters as x/x which is 0/0 in this case.

Edit- I didn't read correctly your post.Of course the creature imprinted should be exiled and the dublicant should not stay on battlefield as x/x. #-o

[fixed by Gargaroz]Akki Coalfinger

PostPosted: 17 Jul 2012, 05:23
by Aswan jaguar
Describe the Bug:
Akki Coalfinger ability to give first strike also gives 100/100 to creatures wow! :shock:

Which card did behave improperly ?
Akki Coalfinger

Which update are you using?(date,name)Which type(Duel,Gauntlet,Sealed Deck)
ML 3.0 15/7V2

What exactly should be the correct behavior/interaction ?
Akki Coalfinger ability only gives first strike.

Are any other cards possibly affected by this bug ?

Re: Another Duplicant Bug

PostPosted: 17 Jul 2012, 05:23
by stassy
confirmed, we just simply found the Archenemy most powerful minion with unlimited life and amazing power, though if Duplicant exile a */* Duplicant in the bf it will revert back to its original P/T

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Aswan jaguar wrote:I haven't search this but sounds like correct the way it works as Psychosis Crawler p/t is x/x and Duplicant emprints only p/t and creature types not the ability of that creature so enters as x/x which is 0/0 in this case.
It depend on the case, for example :
Duplicant has a P/T equal to the imprinted creature's.

*/* usually represents a characteristic defining ability which functions in all zones so it will be equal to whatever defines that CDA.

So a Duplicant imprinting a Mortivore would have a P/T equal to the number of creatures in all graveyards.
if Duplicant is imprinting Aquamorph Entity,
then its p/t would be 0/0, right?
Correct. From the Comprehensive Rules passage two_eyes posted:
Quote:
207.2b The card may have a static ability that creates a replacement effect that sets the creature's power and toughness to one of a number of specific choices as it enters the battlefield or is turned face up. (See rule 614, "Replacement Effects.") Such an ability is worded "As [this creature] enters the battlefield . . . ," "As [this creature] is turned face up . . . ," or "[This creature] enters the battlefield as . . ." and lists two or more specific power and toughness values (and may also list additional characteristics). The characteristics chosen with these effects affect the creature's copiable values. (See rule 706.2.) While the card isn't on the battlefield, its power and toughness are each considered to be 0.

[fixed by Gargaroz]Shimatsu the Bloodcloaked

PostPosted: 17 Jul 2012, 05:39
by Aswan jaguar
Describe the Bug:
Shimatsu the Bloodcloaked goes to your graveyard immediately after you cast it and then asks for permanents to sacrifice which of course are sacrificed in vain then.

Which card did behave improperly ?
Shimatsu the Bloodcloaked

Which update are you using?(date,name)Which type(Duel,Gauntlet,Sealed Deck)

ML 3.0 15/7 V2
What exactly should be the correct behavior/interaction ?
When you cast Shimatsu the Bloodcloaked you are asked for permanents to sacrifice and enters with that many +1/+1 counters if you don't sacrifice any then it goes to graveyard.

Are any other cards possibly affected by this bug ?

Re: [confirmed in v2]Konda's Banner

PostPosted: 17 Jul 2012, 05:47
by Aswan jaguar
I don't Know about rest Kamigawa Equipments but Konda's Banner still is uncastable

Re: Akki Coalfinger ability also gives 100/100

PostPosted: 17 Jul 2012, 06:17
by stassy
confirmed

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Re: [confirmed in v2]Konda's Banner

PostPosted: 17 Jul 2012, 06:21
by stassy
confirmed for Konda's Banner, however No-Dachi, General's Kabuto and Neko-Te are working as intended

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Re: [confirmed]Oran Rief, the Vastwood still not workin

PostPosted: 17 Jul 2012, 07:15
by 0rion79
Absolutely with Stassy!

Re: [fixed in v2] Okina, Temple to the Grandfathers is not v

PostPosted: 17 Jul 2012, 07:21
by 0rion79
Okina, in V.2 may be tapped only for green mana. I have Ezuri and Kaisa on the battlefield but the option to pump legends never appears.

Re: [confirmed] Okina, Temple to the Grandfathers

PostPosted: 17 Jul 2012, 09:57
by stassy
confirmed, also another weird interaction is if Sasaya, Orochi Ascendant is flipped into Sasaya's Essence, it will cause Okina, Temple to the Grandfathers to be impossible to tap and generate infinite G at will on click.

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Re: Shimatsu the Bloodcloaked

PostPosted: 17 Jul 2012, 10:27
by stassy
confirmed, and of course the AI won't play it.

[fixed by Gargaroz] Invalid cards: Evolving Wilds

PostPosted: 17 Jul 2012, 10:41
by 0rion79
As the subject, Evolving Wilds is claimed to be invalid in EDH format, while it should be instead.

[fixed by Gargaroz]Akki Drillmaster

PostPosted: 17 Jul 2012, 11:27
by stassy
Describe the Bug:
Akki Drillmaster ability cannot be used for a creature that just has been casted into the bf with summoning sickness and is only being able to be cast on tapped creature (which do nothing but an empty attached effect card)

Which card did behave improperly ?
Akki Drillmaster

Which update are you using?(date,name)Which type(Duel,Gauntlet,Sealed Deck)
KamiV2

What exactly should be the correct behavior/interaction ?
Akki Drillmaster ability can be used for a creature that just has been casted into the bf with summoning sickness and cannot be able to be cast on tapped creature.

Are any other cards possibly affected by this bug ?
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The screenshot above show that you can use Akki Drillmaster ability on tapped attacking creature which will do nothing

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The screenshot above show that you cannot use Akki Drillmaster ability on summoned sickness creature (Illegal target: tapped)