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[fixed by Gargaroz]Cruel Ultimatum

PostPosted: 18 Jul 2012, 04:25
by Althuna
This crashes the game for me every time I use it. It just says manalink has stopped working, windows is looking for a solution.

Re: Cruel Ultimatum

PostPosted: 18 Jul 2012, 06:55
by stassy
confirmed, even if a creature is in caster gy.

[fixed by Gargaroz]Teferi's Moat

PostPosted: 18 Jul 2012, 07:19
by 0rion79
: Teferi's Moat is still without any effect. Creatures of the chosen color without flying may attack me freely.
In that case, it was red color...

[fixed by Gargaroz]Toshiro Umezawa

PostPosted: 18 Jul 2012, 07:41
by stassy
Describe the Bug:
Toshiro Umezawa ability when triggered ask 2 times the cost of the instant spell in the gy and doesn't ask to choose target instant spell in gy if there is 2 or more instant spell in the gy.

If another Toshiro Umezawa is in the gy but not the last card discarded in the gy stack while one in the bf, if Toshiro Umezawa ability trigger it will cast the Toshiro Umezawa in the gy instead of target instant spell in gy, resulting in both going into the gy due to legend rule.

If another Toshiro Umezawa is in the gy and is the last card discarded in the gy stack while one in the bf, when Toshiro Umezawa ability trigger game will crash


Which card did behave improperly ?
Toshiro Umezawa

Which update are you using?(date,name)Which type(Duel,Gauntlet,Sealed Deck)
KamiV2

What exactly should be the correct behavior/interaction ?
Toshiro Umezawa ability when triggered ask only once the cost of the instant spell in the gy and ask to choose target instant spell in gy if there is 2 or more instant spell in the gy.

If another Toshiro Umezawa is in the gy but not the last card discarded in the gy stack while one in the bf, if Toshiro Umezawa ability trigger it will not cast the Toshiro Umezawa in the gy but target instant spell in gy.

If another Toshiro Umezawa is in the gy and is the last card discarded in the gy stack while one in the bf, when Toshiro Umezawa ability trigger game doesn't crash.

Are any other cards possibly affected by this bug ?
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Example :
Toshiro Umezawa ability when triggered ask only once the cost of the instant spell in the gy and ask to choose target instant spell in gy if there is 2 or more instant spell in the gy.
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Player has Ancestral Recall in gy, Toshiro Umezawa and Sakura-Tribe Elder in play
AI has Sakura-Tribe Elder in play.

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At player turn, player attack with Sakura-Tribe Elder, AI block with Sakura-Tribe Elder.
Both die, Toshiro Umezawa ability trigger and ask for U

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Player pay U, then a copy of Ancestral Recall is added to player hand and the game ask again for U and the Ancestral Recall trigger its effect.

If another Toshiro Umezawa is in the gy but not the last card discarded in the gy stack while one in the bf, if Toshiro Umezawa ability trigger it will cast the Toshiro Umezawa in the gy instead of target instant spell in gy, resulting in both going into the gy due to legend rule.
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Player has Brainstorm, Tropical Island, Toshiro Umezawa x2 in gy, Toshiro Umezawa and Sakura-Tribe Elder in play
AI has Sakura-Tribe Elder in play.

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At player turn, player attack with Sakura-Tribe Elder, AI block with Sakura-Tribe Elder.
Both die, Toshiro Umezawa ability trigger and ask for 1BB

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Player pay 1BB, then a copy of Toshiro Umezawa is added to player hand and the game ask again for 1BB, then Toshiro Umezawa is cast on the bf and both are buried du to legend rule.

If another Toshiro Umezawa is in the gy and is the last card discarded in the gy stack while one in the bf, when Toshiro Umezawa ability trigger game will crash
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Player has Toshiro Umezawa, Lightning Bolt, Sakura-Tribe Elder, Black Lotus, Ancestral Recall in gy, Toshiro Umezawa and Sakura-Tribe Elder in play
AI has Sakura-Tribe Elder in play.

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Game crash at trigger

[fixed by Gargaroz]Rakka Mar's token

PostPosted: 18 Jul 2012, 09:10
by 0rion79
: Rakka Mar's token are totally wrong: they should be 3/1 and DO NOT DIE at the end of turn, while it produces 6/2 creatures (with the writing "trample" but without that ability) that die at the end of turn.

Re: Teferi's Moat still without any effect

PostPosted: 18 Jul 2012, 10:02
by stassy
confirmed, even multicolored creatures are not affected.

[confirmed]Re: Rakka Mar's token

PostPosted: 18 Jul 2012, 10:06
by stassy
confirmed

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[not a bug]Liliana Vess - slight AI issue

PostPosted: 18 Jul 2012, 10:53
by Althuna
Sometimes she does not use her discard ability against me when I have no cards in my hand. But if she did, she would still get the +1 point even although I dont have anything to discard.

Re: Liliana Vess - slight AI issue

PostPosted: 18 Jul 2012, 11:04
by stassy
It's within the rules :

If my opponent has no cards in his hand, can I activate Liliana Vess first ability to make my opponent discard nothing in order to gain a Loyalty Counter on Vess?
yes, it says target player, not target player with cards in hand

There's no issue with effects that can't do what they are trying to do.
Being unable to pay costs on the other hand is another kettle of fish.
Likewise being unable to select targets is a nonstarter (thankfully that isn't the case here)

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Re: [not a bug]Liliana Vess - slight AI issue

PostPosted: 18 Jul 2012, 11:26
by Althuna
But the AI does not do it. He goes through lots of rounds just not activating the planeswalker at all.

[fixed by Gargaroz]Wear Away

PostPosted: 18 Jul 2012, 12:09
by stassy
Describe the Bug:
When Wear Away is cast, the situation bar (Between the two territories (usually) is the Situation Bar. This is a reminder to you of what’s going on and what you need to do. Depending on what else is on the screen, this bar moves so as to always remain visible.)will be hidden until target artifact is chosen, which might confuse the player on what to do.

Which card did behave improperly ?
Wear Away

Which update are you using?(date,name)Which type(Duel,Gauntlet,Sealed Deck)
KamiV2

What exactly should be the correct behavior/interaction ?
When Wear Away is cast, the situation bar is not hidden.

Are any other cards possibly affected by this bug ?
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Re: [not a bug]Liliana Vess - slight AI issue

PostPosted: 18 Jul 2012, 12:22
by stassy
AI is very limited on planeswalker (basically do only one ability and repeat it until counter is gone or ultimate) because it's quite hard to code.

[fixed by Gararoz]Alloy Myr: black in hand

PostPosted: 18 Jul 2012, 13:52
by 0rion79
Before it was gold, now it is black...

Re: [confirmed]Cruel Ultimatum

PostPosted: 18 Jul 2012, 13:57
by Gargaroz
Fixed.

Re: Toshiro Umezawa

PostPosted: 18 Jul 2012, 14:03
by Gargaroz
Fixed.