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[fixed by Gargaroz]Flickering Ward is broken

PostPosted: 12 Jun 2011, 06:53
by 0rion79
When Flickering Ward comes into play, target creature gains all static abilities in the game, then the Ward goes stright to graveyard.

I've also seen that, when the card comes to the battlefield without playing it from hand (eg. using Open the Vaults), it works fine.

[fixed by Gargaroz]Consuming Vapors's rebound cost is zero

PostPosted: 12 Jun 2011, 07:30
by 0rion79
I've seen that more or less 9 times on 10 Consuming Vapors doesn't ask to re-pay its "rebound" cost, making it even more powerful than how it already is.

Human player looks the one who almost never has to pay for that cost, while AI pays for it just a little bit more often.

Re: [confirmed]Cap Sysay and legendary lands

PostPosted: 12 Jun 2011, 11:31
by Aswan jaguar
I confirm that Captain Sissay doesn't draw the legendary lands in limited:

Hammerheim
Karakas
Pendelhaven
The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
Tolaria
Urborg

I don't have custom to know what's going on with Gaea's Cradle and the rest.

Re: [confirmed]Cap Sysay and legendary lands

PostPosted: 12 Jun 2011, 11:34
by 0rion79
Told you, it is because the old one don't have the Legend ID in the CSV :) If you add it, the combo will work fine.

Re: Consuming Vapors's rebound cost is zero

PostPosted: 12 Jun 2011, 12:34
by Gargaroz
There is no "Rebound cost". The text of the card say "At the beginning of your next upkeep, you may cast this card from exile WITHOUT PAYING ITS MANA COST".
This, or I'm not understanding your bug report. However, there is probably a slithering bug there, linked to the Rules Engine. I'll fix that.

Re: Flickering Ward is broken

PostPosted: 12 Jun 2011, 12:43
by Gargaroz
This is another strange case : works perfectly for me.
There's no Rules Engine interaction, so we can't blame that.
Are you using Custom version ? If yes, I suspect there's something severely broken in that EXE. This, or you've badly copied the code pointer.

Re: Barbed Foliage affects own attacking creature

PostPosted: 12 Jun 2011, 12:48
by Gargaroz
Fixed

Re: Consuming Vapors's rebound cost is zero

PostPosted: 12 Jun 2011, 12:58
by 0rion79
Yes, it was my fault: I've misunderstood cards' instructions and understand it only right now. So, the bug is not with human player but with AI, which occasionally pays mana for its rebound cost even if it shouldn't.

Re: Consuming Vapors's rebound cost is zero

PostPosted: 12 Jun 2011, 13:05
by Gargaroz
AS I suspected. Fixed.

Re: Flickering Ward is broken

PostPosted: 12 Jun 2011, 13:14
by 0rion79
You know, it is strange: I've tried to make some more test and I've just been unlucky. In fact, I've got the bug so far only with one creature kind: Mesa Enchantress and Kor Spiritdancer ! With other creatures, the card is working fine as in Golden Years version but if the triggered effect about drawing a card is activated, then Flickering Ward produces that weird effect that I've told you before. It is a shame also because it looks perfect to interact with Kor Spiritdancer!! May you fix it?

Re: Flickering Ward is broken

PostPosted: 12 Jun 2011, 13:28
by Gargaroz
Ah, now I see it ! This last one was a very precious report, thanx Orion ! Strange that the bug happened only with that cards, but manalink never cease to show its weird aspects. However, is fixed now, but you'll have to wait the next update to get the fix, as is in the DLL and I really don't want to release a V4. Same thing for the Barbed Foliage bug and all the other non-CSV bug that will be reported for Golden Years from now on.

Re: Flickering Ward is broken

PostPosted: 12 Jun 2011, 13:34
by 0rion79
Thank you! Even if I'm no longer coding cards by myself, I know how this game may be tricky :) So thansk for caring so much about details.
I will wait for the next patch...

[fixed by Gargaroz]]Kitchen Finks is G/U but should be G/W

PostPosted: 12 Jun 2011, 21:06
by LMG-WiSK
Kitchen Finks is hybrid G/U but should be G/W. This makes my eyes sad.

Edit: it seems this is just cosmetic. I can still cast it with only plains out.

Re: Kitchen Finks is hybrid G/U but should be G/W

PostPosted: 13 Jun 2011, 08:08
by Aswan jaguar
Yes,it is just a text error.

[fixed by Gargaroz]Tezzeret and others+ Lodestone Golem

PostPosted: 14 Jun 2011, 17:03
by aww1979
Apologies for no savegame (I did this in challenge mode, and if memory serves, you can't save there) and for not being very active on this forum lately. (blame my new job...)

Describe the Bug:
I cast Cathedral Membrane while AI had Lodestone Golem in play, and I did not have to pay the extra (1) mana that the golem requires. I cast it for 1W, rather than 1+2 life, if this is relevant. I suspect that it is the same issue as hybrid cards like Manamorphose or Kitchen Finks have where cost modifications don't work right on them.

Which card did behave improperly:
Cathedral Membrane and Lodestone Golem

What exactly should be the correct behavior/interaction ?
With Lodestone golem out, Cathedral Membrane should cost either 2W or 1W+2 life to cast. I was able to cast it for 1W.

Are any other cards possibly affected by this bug ?
Probably every card where mana can be alternately paid by 2 life. I'm not familiar enough with the new cards to list them all.