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[fixed by Gargaroz]Plumeveil / Juggernaut

PostPosted: 14 Jun 2011, 17:26
by aww1979
Describe the Bug:
Plumeveil cannot block Juggernaut. Plumeveil has defender but it is an elemental, not a wall.

Which card did behave improperly:
Plumeveil and Juggernaut

What exactly should be the correct behavior/interaction ?
Plumeveil should be able to block Juggernaut if I want.

Are any other cards possibly affected by this bug ?
Probably all cards with defender that aren't walls.

Re: Cathedral Membrane + Lodestone Golem

PostPosted: 14 Jun 2011, 17:49
by Aswan jaguar
You didn't notice that Cathedral Membrane is an artifact so correctly it wasn't influenced by Lodestone Golem.

Re: Plumeveil / Juggernaut

PostPosted: 14 Jun 2011, 18:38
by Aswan jaguar
List of defenders that don't block-although they should- Juggernaut:

1) Carven Caryatid
2) Gomazoa
3) Makindi Shieldmate
4) Plumeveil
5) Roc Egg

Defenders that block Juggernaut:

1) Gargoyle Sentinel
2) Shoal Serpent

Re: [unconfirmed-not a bug]Cathedral Membrane + Lodestone Go

PostPosted: 14 Jun 2011, 23:19
by aww1979
Hmm, that's a good point :p I didn't notice that at all. Are any of the other cards that have alternate life costs to pay instead of mana nonartifacts?

[fixed by Garg]Misc Typo

PostPosted: 15 Jun 2011, 04:30
by stassy

Re: [unconfirmed-not a bug]Cathedral Membrane + Lodestone Go

PostPosted: 15 Jun 2011, 06:17
by stassy
They are some of them, and while testing them I just saw many issues :

Dismember and Tezzeret's Gambit are completely non affected by Lodestone Golem effect: for Dismember if Lodestone Golem is in play and you have 1BB available as land, it should require 11BB to cast it since it's not an artifact spell but you still can cast it for 1BB or 1LLB or 1LLLL (should be 11BB 11LLB or 11LLLL)

If you hit cancel when casting Vault Skirge it will still ask you for 1 and if you choose to pay you automatically remove 2 life from you as if you had choosen the 2nd option

You can pick up from graveyard any card with Postmortem Lunge as long as you choose the 2nd option pay XLB, it should be limited to creatures.

Surgical Extraction ask you to pay 1 then special menu appear. If you hit Do nothing the effect will still trigger.

All of these bugs are reported with 1 lodestone golem in play, June V3 in constructed duel with all bugged cards in their starting deck of course.

Re: [unconfirmed-not a bug]Cathedral Membrane + Lodestone Go

PostPosted: 15 Jun 2011, 13:21
by Aswan jaguar
I confirm Stassy's reported bugs.

Postmortem Lunge also doesn't take into account Lodestone Golem and doesn't let you pay full mana to cast a creature but asks to pay 2life.

About Surgical Extraction there are 2 more bugs:

1)you can't choose a card from your graveyard
2) when you exile a card(ex.Lightning Bolt) another card gets exiled which doesn't exist in the deck(Cudgel Troll for Lightning Bolt).

Re: [confirmed]Tezzeret and others+ Lodestone Golem[renamed]

PostPosted: 15 Jun 2011, 16:42
by Gargaroz
Yup, there goes another bug in that damned Phyrexian Mana function. I fixed the "do nothing" part, now I'll have to see if the interaction with Lodestone Golem works faithfully. I'll keep you posted.

Aswan Jaguar, I testes Surgical extraction and it removes exactly the card you target. Do you have manipulated you graveyard in any way ?
Also, do you really want to "lobotomy" yourself ? I could fix that, but it seems to me really pointless.

Re: [confirmed]Tezzeret and others+ Lodestone Golem[renamed]

PostPosted: 15 Jun 2011, 17:02
by stassy
Also just a quick question to be clear about syntax: is the phyrexia system to pay life instead of mana is considered as "artefact spell"? If so disregard my 1st report line, else I would like to know which spell is considered as "artefact spell" since I couldn't find any entry in the rulebook about it (I know that some spell card can be colored by enchantment but not morphed to colorless or artefact type)

Re: Misc Typo

PostPosted: 15 Jun 2011, 23:53
by Gargaroz
Copy 'n' paste fail is fail.
I'll fix that.

Re: [confirmed]Tezzeret and others+ Lodestone Golem[renamed]

PostPosted: 15 Jun 2011, 23:58
by Gargaroz
No, only the creatures with Phyrexian Mana are Artifacts.
However, I can fix the interactions with the Golem and other stuff like Sphere of Resistence, but I need a list of cards that can reduce / increse the cost of an entire "class" of spell, like the above mentioned.

Re: [confirmed]Tezzeret and others+ Lodestone Golem[renamed]

PostPosted: 16 Jun 2011, 04:28
by stassy

[fixed by Gargaroz]Illusions of Grandeur

PostPosted: 16 Jun 2011, 10:48
by 0rion79
Illusions of Grandeur got corrupted.
In fact, I've seen that, even if cumulative upkeep does work correctly, no age counters are added to that card.
And, most important, when the enchantment leaves the game, there is no life loss from the owner.

Re: [confirmed]Tezzeret and others+ Lodestone Golem[renamed]

PostPosted: 16 Jun 2011, 13:39
by Aswan jaguar
Some more to the list:
Defense Grid
Derelor
Dragonspeaker Shaman
Dream Halls?
Gloom
Helm of Awakening
In the Eye of Chaos
Mana Matrix
Planar Gate
Reflecting Mirror
Semblance Anvil
Sphere of Resistanse
Stone Calendar
Trinisphere

Golden years mod cards if needed:
Aura of Silence
Emerald Medallion
Jet Medallion
Pearl Medallion
Ruby Medallion
Sapphire Medallion


Gargaroz about being able to target yourself with Surgical Extraction certainly it is smt really rare to do ex. Opponent has in play Black Vice and you have 2,3 of a heavy mana card you can't cast in next 5 turns it would be nice to discard them.

Re: Illusions of Grandeur got corrupted

PostPosted: 17 Jun 2011, 04:23
by stassy
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