[Not Solved] + [Unfixable] Bug Archive

[Wronskian]

Describe the Bugs:
When you put lands into play with scapeshift, fastbond makes you lose life.(savegame 3)
fastbond damage is triggered if you fetch a land after a landfall.(savegame2)
Fastbond damage is triggered if a second land comes into play with Oracle of Mul Daya (savegame2)


Which card did behave improperly ?
Fastbond

Which Version did you use ? (Constructed, Limited)
Constructed, Gauntlet ( March , no mod)

What exactly should be the correct behavior/interaction ?
Fastbond should not be triggered when lands come into play with scapeshift.
Fastbond should not be triggered by fetchlands.
second landfall with Mul Daya should not trigger Fastbond

Are any other cards possibly affected by this bug ?
every other "put a land into play" card

[Aswan jaguar]

confirmed 1 bug) the damage made by Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle doesn't resolve right away and it stays in stack till another damage other than Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle is inflicted then it resolves in my test it resolved in opponents turn he attacked damaged me and then the damage I made in my turn with Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle resolved .

confirmed 2 bug) the damage of multiple Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle shouldn't be added and inflict all damage at once but be divided.

[Cognis]

Sometimes this happens with things like Goblin Sharpshooter, Inferno Titan or Chandra Nalar where the damage is put on the stack and doesn't resolve until combat damage goes through. I've only seen this with red cards that deal non-combat damage but then again there aren't many non-red cards that do that.

[Aswan jaguar]

Wronskian be carefull with your savegames this one didn't include Scapeshift.

Confirm that only one mountain which comes with Scapeshift triggers with Valakut, nothing else,lands come in at the same time.

*Edit my mistake Scapeshift triggers Valakut every time.Scapeshift also put lands in the same time when there are no CIP effects but that is just unimportant.

[Gargaroz]

The "damage card bug" is hardcoded and I doubt it could be fixed.
The other issue is solvable, I'll look into it.

Edit : Now you could choose the appropriate number of targets. Note that in this way the "delayed damage bug " is even more noticeable. And I confirm that is an hardcoded bug.

[Gargaroz]

This is strange : I tested multiple times the Prismatic Valakut and it worked fine. I'll investigate.

Edit : checked, and everything works fine, apart from the"delayed damage" bug (that is hardcoded).

[Aswan jaguar]

I don't think there is a bug in this, fastbond clearly says whenever you play land you get 1 damage no matter if another spell ,ability brings it for free Fastbond requires that you get 1 damage.I searched gatherer a little but didn't find smt.

I just think these cards don't work good together.

I will tag it as unconfirmed if somebody has more info for this interaction can change it.

[Aswan jaguar]

Shalbei should this remain sticky or not?and others partly fixed or hardcoded?

[Wronskian]

You don't play land, you put them into play it is quite different.
But I agree with you for Oracle of Mul Daya.

You take damage when you play a land using the "play a land" action. Such an action can be your regular "play a land", one enabled by Fastbond, or ones enabled through other effects. [2004-10-04]
You do not take damage when you "put a land onto the battlefield" through the effect of a spell or ability. [2004-10-04]

[Wronskian]

Sorry Aswan Jaguar, you are right. It is my save from a custom game and not a constructed game. Cards were replaced. I apologize.

What I meant is : if you sacrifice every land and put 6 lands into play (Valakut,forest,forest, forest, forest,forest) , only the last forest triggers valakut. The six lands must trigger Valakut. They come into play at the same time.

[Wronskian]

Other problem : when Valakut comes into play, if it triggers the ability from an other Valakut, it won't come into play tapped

[Salbei]

Shalbei should this remain sticky or not?and others partly fixed or hardcoded?

Well the Bug is not fixed. He just stated that it is hardcoded and most likely can not be fixed.
I would unsticky and rename the topic to: "Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle[not solveable]".

Up to you though.

[Aswan jaguar]

As I understand the same is with Fetchlands and Fastbond when you play them you loose 1 life since you still play land and its an effect you can do only in your turn but not when they fetch a land right?

[Wronskian]

Yes, this would be the right interaction. But Manalink works differently.

[Aswan jaguar]

It works just fine Wronskian don't forget that Valakut triggers only when you control 5 other or more mountains.