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[unfixable]Juggernaut: kamikaze effect on AI's creatures

PostPosted: 22 Feb 2012, 08:29
by 0rion79
Let's see if it can be fixed!
Whenever the human player plays the Juggernaut the AI attacks with all of its creatures, despite of the fact they are stronger or weaker than the Juggernaut itself.
Maybe there is a mistake about flags, since the AI belives that all of its creatures must attack too!

Re: Juggernaut: kamikaze effect on AI's creatures

PostPosted: 22 Feb 2012, 10:07
by stassy
confirmed, unless it's a mana generating creature, if in the rounds before AI already started to attack the player it will consider either Juggernaut to be no creature or all his creatures are affected by Juggernaut ability and attack if able.

There is to note that if you cast another creature with block potential other than Juggernaut the brainless AI mode will stop and he won't attack anymore.

Re: bouncing evoke stuff

PostPosted: 22 Feb 2012, 15:42
by Althuna
Ahh ok cool thanks!

Re: bouncing evoke stuff

PostPosted: 22 Feb 2012, 16:20
by Gargaroz
The problem with this bug is that the stack of Manalink is not the same of the actual magic, so the managing of triggered abilities is quite buggish and usually you cannot respond to CIP triggers. This is not fixable right now.

[unsolved]Ajani 's pridemate

PostPosted: 22 Feb 2012, 18:00
by bgaut
Describe the Bug:
whenever you gain life you may put a counter on ajani's pridemate ability doesn't work at leat for healing save and foutain of youth
Which card did behave improperly ?
Ajani 's pridemate
Which Version did you use ?(Constructed, Limited)and which update(date,name)
manalink 3.0 last version.

What exactly should be the correct behavior/interaction ?
you should out a Are any other cards possibly affected by this bug +1/1 counter on Ajani 's pridemate

ajanis pridemate.zip
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Re: Ajani 's pridemate bug

PostPosted: 22 Feb 2012, 18:31
by stassy

Re: [confirmed]Ajani 's pridemate

PostPosted: 23 Feb 2012, 14:07
by Gargaroz
I recently introduced a C hack that will solve this bug and others linked to life gain. However, thiw will work only with cards coded in C.

Re: [unsolved]Ajani 's pridemate

PostPosted: 23 Feb 2012, 14:28
by Aswan jaguar
I am just wondering weren't those cards working when it was first coded by Jatill?or fixed by Jatill in Octomber 2010?It seems very unlikely that nobody reported this bug.Or did we introduce an action to make lifegain more stable that messed up the card with no C coded cards?
It seems we are always going to have these bugs if all cards don't get coded in C unfortunately.
Thanks so much Gargaroz for your endurance and patience and resourcefulness to deal with these bugs over and over again.

Re: [confirmed]Juggernaut: kamikaze effect on AI's creatures

PostPosted: 24 Feb 2012, 14:49
by Gargaroz
I fear this is not fixable, as there's something hardcoded generating the bug : I tried recoding Juggernaut, but the bug is still happening.
Plus, it doesn't happens with creatures that use the same attack_if_able function, like Galvanic Juggernaut.

Re: [wait-response]Lands that produce 2 mana when tapped.

PostPosted: 25 Feb 2012, 11:43
by Aswan jaguar
Gargaroz maybe then we should make this hack to Orzhov Basilica = probably it was forgotten because AI tries to put it in play and does nothing.

Re: [wait-response]Lands that produce 2 mana when tapped.

PostPosted: 26 Feb 2012, 14:35
by Gargaroz
The hack is on even on Orzhov Basilica, AJ.
I tried to remove it and implement a way to "convince" the AI to play this lands only when there's another land in play, but it was effortless.
So, the hack will remain, at least for now.

Re: [wait-response]Lands that produce 2 mana when tapped.

PostPosted: 26 Feb 2012, 15:40
by Aswan jaguar
Maybe the hack is on Orzhov Basilica, but it is not effective I played 6,7 games and never AI got a Scrubland instead.AI selected Orzhov Basilica to put in play several times but the card remained every time in AI's hand instead of getting replaced in battlefield by Scrubland.

[Unfixable]Karmic Guide

PostPosted: 02 Mar 2012, 06:25
by jwallstone
On the upkeep after Karmic Guide enters the battlefield, when you have to pay the echo costs, if you blink it with Momentary Blink, it still requires the echo cost to be paid. This should not happen. It should come in as a new copy of the card, with a new echo trigger for the next turn. The previous echo trigger should not affect the blinked Karmic Guide.

Re: Karmic Guide

PostPosted: 02 Mar 2012, 06:55
by stassy
confirmed, this happen on all echo creatures, the combo echo + blink should reset the echo memory for next turn and not current.

Re: [confirmed]Karmic Guide

PostPosted: 02 Mar 2012, 12:53
by Aswan jaguar
jwallstone please read this on how to report bugs and remember to attach savegames,thanks.
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