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Re: HQ PICS DOWNLOADS and Status List (MTG) 2013

Postby Huggybaby » 11 Oct 2015, 23:04

Wurm wrote:Any suggestion on how to mass zip the contents of each folder?
I use WinRAR, select a group of folders, and in the "Files" tab, check "Put each file to separate archive". Then each folder/set will be zipped separately. Then I drag all the zipped folders onto torrentzip, but I guess that step isn't necessary because everyone starts the torrent at 0% anyway, as infuriating as that is.

Does the current torrent use the Plains [1] format? I think I eliminated the brackets.

<edit> Yes, I used Plains1 for a reason. No brackets or space.
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Re: HQ PICS DOWNLOADS and Status List (MTG) 2013

Postby Wurm » 12 Oct 2015, 01:08

Good, I tried that way with WinRAR. Additionally selected "Do not store paths" so the folders aren't included (just the files in each zip).

I removed the brackets from all files. I'm changing the folder names now, before making the zips.

Is the current grouping fine? Like this:

Boxsets
Casual Sets
Challenge Packs
Clash Packs
Core Sets
Duel Decks
Expansion Sets
From the Vault
Introductory Sets
Premium Deck Series
Reprint Sets
Un-Sets

Or do you prefer to merge some of those? I think it looks good.

Edit: Renaming done. However, there are a few "sets" that don't seem to have 3 letter codes.

Boxset: Duels of the Planeswalkers
Casual: Vanguard
The 3 Challenge Packs and Theros Hero Cards
The Clash Packs
Introductory Two-Player Set

Also the Duel Decks Anthology is named DD3 but inside contains DVD, EVG, GVL and JVC (no card is actually labeled as DD3)


Edit: I followed the Mega link above and there are these codes for those sets: DPA for Duels, CP1, CP2, CP3 for Clash Packs and I2P for Introductory. The Vanguard cards and the Challenge decks remain with no codes.
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Re: HQ PICS DOWNLOADS and Status List (MTG) 2013

Postby charlequin » 12 Oct 2015, 03:18

Wurm wrote:Everything is complete except:

-A Marit Lage 20/20 token from Coldsnap. It's too awesome, we must have it :P
-A Bat token from Garruk vs Liliana duel decks. I used MTG Salvation for checking tokens and total cards for each set and it isn't listed there. It does appear in the Anthologies reprint, maybe Wizards forgot the bat in the original print?
-Both Innistrad and Dark Ascension checklist cards (the ones to play in place of dual faced cards)
I uploaded 200 and 300 DPIs of Marit Lage and the checklists to the More Releases folder in my sig, under "Torrent Extras." I can't find any specific evidence the bat token exists at the moment.

Wurm wrote:Also the Duel Decks Anthology is named DD3 but inside contains DVD, EVG, GVL and JVC (no card is actually labeled as DD3)
I released this as DDA (which was previously unused) and left the individual directories underneath with the letters you use above. Jace v Chandra, Divine v Demonic, and Garruk v Liliana were designated by WotC as DD2, DDC, and DDD respectively, but EVG is already the code in use for the original printing of Elves vs. Goblins, so... not sure the best solution there.

Boxset: Duels of the Planeswalkers
Casual: Vanguard
The 3 Challenge Packs and Theros Hero Cards
The Clash Packs
Introductory Two-Player Set
For these I've been using DOP, VAN, HRO, CP1-3, and I2P. I'm not sure if there's an established unofficial signifier for any of these.
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Re: HQ PICS DOWNLOADS and Status List (MTG) 2013

Postby Wurm » 12 Oct 2015, 04:37

charlequin wrote:I uploaded 200 and 300 DPIs of Marit Lage and the checklists to the More Releases folder in my sig, under "Torrent Extras." I can't find any specific evidence the bat token exists at the moment.
Thanks a lot. Now we are complete. The original bat token doesn't exist at all, only in the Anthology print.

charlequin wrote:I released this as DDA (which was previously unused) and left the individual directories underneath with the letters you use above. Jace v Chandra, Divine v Demonic, and Garruk v Liliana were designated by WotC as DD2, DDC, and DDD respectively, but EVG is already the code in use for the original printing of Elves vs. Goblins, so... not sure the best solution there.
The official code is DD3 according to Wizards. DVD, EVG, GVL and JVC are printed as codes in the cards themselves. So we kinda have the solution :D. I'll leave the directories under the DD3 zip like you suggest.

charlequin wrote:For these I've been using DOP, VAN, HRO, CP1-3, and I2P. I'm not sure if there's an established unofficial signifier for any of these.
VAN sounds good. DOP or DPA, there's no official, DOP looks better. I2P we all agree, CP1-3 are official for the Clash Packs (printed in the cards). That leaves us the Challenge Decks. Ideas? Maybe BTH, DAG, FTH and HRO?
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Re: HQ PICS DOWNLOADS and Status List (MTG) 2013

Postby Nyth » 12 Oct 2015, 06:04

If you check on Gatherer, they use VAN as the symbol code once you delve into the HTML code.
Duels of the Planeswalkers has always unofficially been DPA so I would stick with that.
Plus DD3 is used for the Anthology rerelease of the Duel Decks since they've essentially retconned EVG into DDA and DD2 into DDB.

The Wiki page is a huge help for these 3 letter codes if you ever get lost.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Magic:_The_Gathering_sets
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Re: HQ PICS DOWNLOADS and Status List (MTG) 2013

Postby Wurm » 12 Oct 2015, 06:37

Thanks. So VAN stays and back to DPA. I also found that Commander Arsenal is CM1 instead of CMA. Good. Only Challenge decks need a code now. So far I have them as BTH, DAG, FTH and HRO.
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Re: HQ PICS DOWNLOADS and Status List (MTG) 2013

Postby charlequin » 12 Oct 2015, 06:43

Wurm wrote:Thanks. So VAN stays and back to DPA. I also found that Commander Arsenal is CM1 instead of CMA. Good. Only Challenge decks need a code now. So far I have them as BTH, DAG, FTH and HRO.
I've just been using CD1, CD2, and CD3 for the challenge decks since it's less likely to collide with anything later.
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Re: HQ PICS DOWNLOADS and Status List (MTG) 2013

Postby Nyth » 12 Oct 2015, 06:51

The Hero cards are technically non-traditional prerelease promos. And the Challenge Decks are all non-traditional prints.

The only way to know for sure is to find an outer box that they were sold in. That would have the code on the white sticker.
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Re: HQ PICS DOWNLOADS and Status List (MTG) 2013

Postby skibulk » 12 Oct 2015, 12:16

mtgjson.com has been using a smart naming structure for promo set codes. For example, pLGM is used for Legends Membership promos. The "p" stands for promo and is lowercase to highlight the fact that this code is custom. The idea is to use something that could never conflict with the official Wizards set codes as more are added in the future.

EDIT:

In the last torrent, the 8ED XLHQ cards were released with white corners. I'm not sure if any other sets had this error.
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Re: HQ PICS DOWNLOADS and Status List (MTG) 2013

Postby JDDCODE7 » 12 Oct 2015, 14:57

Hi, im have a images of all Restricted cards of current list of all formats, thanks to this page i have a HQ images , but to complete my colection i need only the conspiracy card (example. "Muzzio's Preparations", "Sentinel Dispatch") why this cards are not in this page?, in the case of this cards no exist in physical format, anyone please can use some Card Generator and produce that cards in HQ, I appreciate very much 8)
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Re: HQ PICS DOWNLOADS and Status List (MTG) 2013

Postby Huggybaby » 12 Oct 2015, 20:29

Wurm wrote:Good, I tried that way with WinRAR. Additionally selected "Do not store paths" so the folders aren't included (just the files in each zip).
I'm confused...Each zip should contain a folder. So, 3ED Fulls.zip should contain a 3ED folder, which in turn contains the pics. 3ED Crops.zip also conatins a 3ED folder, etc. If all zips are extracted at once, you will still end up with only one 3ED folder which contains all the different resolutions, but there will be no overwriting, only peaceful coexistence, due to the naming convention.

Wurm wrote:I removed the brackets from all files. I'm changing the folder names now, before making the zips.
Very good, be sure to remove the space as well.

Wurm wrote:Is the current grouping fine? Like this:

Boxsets
Casual Sets
Challenge Packs
Clash Packs
Core Sets
Duel Decks
Expansion Sets
From the Vault
Introductory Sets
Premium Deck Series
Reprint Sets
Un-Sets

Or do you prefer to merge some of those? I think it looks good.
Now THAT I can leave totally up to you. To be honest I don't care if there is any grouping at all.

There are problems I found trying to classify sets; one is finding a balance between complexity and simplicity. Another is that everybody has their own idea of how to group things. No approach satisfies everyone, proven by all the different schemes which have been proposed over the years.

I was toying with the idea of eliminating all groups and dumping everything together, and it would be fine if you do that. (The only trouble might be the few sets that don't have proper codes but that's small trouble.) The way I have things named it's easily possible to dump everything in one folder and find what you want.

Another problem is that any type of grouping inevitably is incomplete in some way. The simple way I started with left some sets unclassified or perhaps improperly classified.
The only solution is to fully group and classify everything, the way GH does with Magic Album, but this collection should take the opposite of that approach; the groups should exist to help find things quickly, not to designate and classify each set, because the classification will be done within each software's database, and there are a lot of those! Besides, the way WOTC keeps coming up with new things, trying to group sets a certain way seems to mean that eventually the original groups will be wrong/obsolete. And that is to be avoided because then you can't keep adding to the torrent with an update, you'll have to keep redoing the torrent from scratch because sets will need to go into different folders.
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Re: HQ PICS DOWNLOADS and Status List (MTG) 2013

Postby kudit » 12 Oct 2015, 22:03

Yeah, that's where I ended up. I have a folder with a folder for each shortcode and then images within each of those folders. Keeps it relatively flat, but grouped, and easy to programmatically find things.
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Re: HQ PICS DOWNLOADS and Status List (MTG) 2013

Postby Teppic » 13 Oct 2015, 02:01

charlequin wrote:
Wurm wrote:Everything is complete except:

-A Marit Lage 20/20 token from Coldsnap. It's too awesome, we must have it :P
-A Bat token from Garruk vs Liliana duel decks. I used MTG Salvation for checking tokens and total cards for each set and it isn't listed there. It does appear in the Anthologies reprint, maybe Wizards forgot the bat in the original print?
-Both Innistrad and Dark Ascension checklist cards (the ones to play in place of dual faced cards)
I uploaded 200 and 300 DPIs of Marit Lage and the checklists to the More Releases folder in my sig, under "Torrent Extras." I can't find any specific evidence the bat token exists at the moment.
There was no bat token in the original Garruk vs Liliana duel deck, only in the Anthology version.

charlequin wrote:
Wurm wrote:Also the Duel Decks Anthology is named DD3 but inside contains DVD, EVG, GVL and JVC (no card is actually labeled as DD3)
I released this as DDA (which was previously unused) and left the individual directories underneath with the letters you use above. Jace v Chandra, Divine v Demonic, and Garruk v Liliana were designated by WotC as DD2, DDC, and DDD respectively, but EVG is already the code in use for the original printing of Elves vs. Goblins, so... not sure the best solution there.
The official set codes for these, including on Gatherer, are:
DD3_JVC
DD3_DVD
DD3_EVG
DD3_GVL

FWIW, the other set code longer than three characters is FRF_UGIN, which is the set code for the Ugin's Fate promos.
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Re: HQ PICS DOWNLOADS and Status List (MTG) 2013

Postby Wurm » 13 Oct 2015, 02:25

charlequin wrote:
Wurm wrote:Thanks. So VAN stays and back to DPA. I also found that Commander Arsenal is CM1 instead of CMA. Good. Only Challenge decks need a code now. So far I have them as BTH, DAG, FTH and HRO.
I've just been using CD1, CD2, and CD3 for the challenge decks since it's less likely to collide with anything later.
Nice. CDx for challenge decks like CPx is for clash packs. This is the option I like more. It seems unlikely a future set would have "CD<number>" as code.

skibulk wrote:mtgjson.com has been using a smart naming structure for promo set codes. For example, pLGM is used for Legends Membership promos. The "p" stands for promo and is lowercase to highlight the fact that this code is custom. The idea is to use something that could never conflict with the official Wizards set codes as more are added in the future.

EDIT:

In the last torrent, the 8ED XLHQ cards were released with white corners. I'm not sure if any other sets had this error.
9ED has white corners too.

Do people like the "p" before the codes? These are:
Duels of the Planeswalkers (DPA)
Vanguard (VAN)
Challenge Decks and Theros Hero Cards (CD1-3, HRO)
Introductory Two-Player Set (I2P)

I think I prefer without the "p", so all codes are of only 3 nice letters :P. And in the [very] rare case a future set ends up with one of these same codes, we can always change it. It's just a very few sets, it's not like the entire torrent structure will go to the trash.

Anyway, let me hear your opinions.

Huggybaby wrote:I'm confused...Each zip should contain a folder. So, 3ED Fulls.zip should contain a 3ED folder, which in turn contains the pics. 3ED Crops.zip also conatins a 3ED folder, etc. If all zips are extracted at once, you will still end up with only one 3ED folder which contains all the different resolutions, but there will be no overwriting, only peaceful coexistence, due to the naming convention.
I see. The Magic Album torrent had the pics laying in the zip, and each zip in a folder. Here it's the zips together and a folder in each zip then.

Huggybaby wrote:Very good, be sure to remove the space as well.
Yes, I already had the the spaces removed. It's just the number now.


Regarding the grouping, we can always add new things in one of the folders or create new ones if Wizards comes up with new types of sets. But I see the simplicity of having everything together, and this would be the most generic way, since everyone may have their own groups.

So, everything together? Once I put all zips in a folder I'd rather not go back looking up codes and separating files :P

Teppic wrote:The official set codes for these, including on Gatherer, are:
DD3_JVC
DD3_DVD
DD3_EVG
DD3_GVL

FWIW, the other set code longer than three characters is FRF_UGIN, which is the set code for the Ugin's Fate promos.
I renamed those folders and put them together with the other duel decks. There are no further subfolders this way.

Like this:
DD2
DD3_DVD
DD3_EVG
DD3_GVL
DD3_JVC
DDC
DDD
DDE
DDF
DDG
DDH
DDI
DDJ
DDK
DDL
DDM
DDN
DDO
DDP
EVG
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Re: HQ PICS DOWNLOADS and Status List (MTG) 2013

Postby charlequin » 13 Oct 2015, 03:16

Huggybaby wrote:I'm confused...Each zip should contain a folder. So, 3ED Fulls.zip should contain a 3ED folder, which in turn contains the pics. 3ED Crops.zip also conatins a 3ED folder, etc. If all zips are extracted at once, you will still end up with only one 3ED folder which contains all the different resolutions, but there will be no overwriting, only peaceful coexistence, due to the naming convention.
This could just be status quo bias due to the way we're doing it now, but the structure I prefer is top-level folders for categories, with folders underneath for sets, each with separate zips for 200 DPI, 300 DPI, crops, and extras, and the zips having all the files in their root. That way if you want them all together in one folder it's easy (unzip all the zips directly to their parent folder), but if you want them all in their own folders it's also easy (unzip them all to directories with the same name as the zip files.) If you store them with an internal "3ED" folder, getting separate folders for 200/300/etc. is much harder.

There are problems I found trying to classify sets; one is finding a balance between complexity and simplicity. Another is that everybody has their own idea of how to group things. No approach satisfies everyone, proven by all the different schemes which have been proposed over the years.
It's difficult to categorize for sure since WotC keeps introducing more and more categories of cards as time goes on. What I settled into for myself was:

Introductory Sets (e.g. Portal, Starter)
Core Sets
Expansion Sets
Fixed Supplemental Sets (e.g. box sets, precons, FTV)
Randomized Supplemental Sets (e.g. Modern Masters, Conspiracy, Unglued)
Promos (any alternate-appearance cards distributed individually)

Those categories are pretty broad but it should be pretty easy to slot even new types of sets into them.
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