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Re: HQ PICS DOWNLOADS and Status List (MTG) 2013

Postby Huggybaby » 06 Nov 2013, 15:19

They get their scans from here, just like everybody else on the internet. That's why they didn't have M14, because WE didn't.

Also note that a lot of apps get their pics from http://magiccards.info/ and there are probably other similar places. Guess where those scans also come from? That's right, here. They just size them down.

It's a bit unethical when we don't get attribution, or the attribution is hidden on some difficult-to-find page, since we do ask for attribution, and that is the only thing we ask for. How hard is it to write a sentence? There's even a mirror I know of that manages not to credit us. I think this guy either takes scans from MA or from my releases and packages them. I let it slide rather than make a flame out of it, but yes, I don't like it. This guy is an asshole not to mention this site.

If anyone else is producing ORIGINAL scans I'd love to know about it.
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Re: HQ PICS DOWNLOADS and Status List (MTG) 2013

Postby skibulk » 06 Nov 2013, 15:23

Decked Studios owns Decked Builder and Decked Drafter. They are currently working on processing our Theros card scans. We're hopefull they will be processing all of the English Sets going forward.
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Re: HQ PICS DOWNLOADS and Status List (MTG) 2013

Postby woogerboy21 » 06 Nov 2013, 15:30

Huggybaby wrote:If anyone else is producing ORIGINAL scans I'd love to know about it.
/raises hand....
I do, but I sent you a PM about it :wink:
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Re: HQ PICS DOWNLOADS and Status List (MTG) 2013

Postby Huggybaby » 06 Nov 2013, 15:36

Let me clarify then, I should have said "Pics" I guess. We've always had a variety of different scanners and different processors, but the result is the same. I don't know of anyone else who produces original pics, at least not consistently. I have run across a few different sets individually produced, but they're one-offs to my knowledge.
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Re: HQ PICS DOWNLOADS and Status List (MTG) 2013

Postby extreme » 06 Nov 2013, 17:05

People get their images from magiccards.info, where there is no attribution to us, would not know to give attribution either.
Actually, magiccards.info states very clearly in "about" where the cards come from.

http://magiccards.info/about.html
SCANNING HOW-TO: viewtopic.php?f=15&t=451
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Re: HQ PICS DOWNLOADS and Status List (MTG) 2013

Postby woogerboy21 » 06 Nov 2013, 17:42

I just like giving Huggybaby a hard time.... I roll like that. :)
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Re: HQ PICS DOWNLOADS and Status List (MTG) 2013

Postby Huggybaby » 06 Nov 2013, 20:13

extreme wrote:
People get their images from magiccards.info, where there is no attribution to us, would not know to give attribution either.
Actually, magiccards.info states very clearly in "about" where the cards come from.

http://magiccards.info/about.html
Yes, and they have for a long time, which is why we're still credited as the MWSHQ Team.
I'm not going to bother and name those who don't.
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Re: HQ PICS DOWNLOADS and Status List (MTG) 2013

Postby orban » 07 Nov 2013, 08:18

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Re: HQ PICS DOWNLOADS and Status List (MTG) 2013

Postby skibulk » 07 Nov 2013, 13:20

@huggybaby

It might be a good idea to place a request for credits in the OP as well as inside a "readme.txt" file within the torrent itself. You could also include info about naming conventions, etc.
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Re: HQ PICS DOWNLOADS and Status List (MTG) 2013

Postby Huggybaby » 07 Nov 2013, 15:56

@Orban, your attribution is fine where it is, although it should read CCGHQ since MWSHQ no longer exists.
A footer credit with a link would be cool, we should always cross link for google ratings. But you have other contributors too so I don't know if it's that appropriate.

@skibulk I'll think about it. It's something I shouldn't have to do since it's common sense internet etiquette.

It bothers me to see a game, or a website, or a posting on a website, that uses Orban's pics like they're free too. He doesn't get credit and neither do we. He pays for the bandwidth, and with all the various places and applications that link to him in the background, the traffic must be staggering. It's an incredible service to the community, and if his site went down a lot of people would be suffering for a while.
I have an inkling of his traffic due to the history of MWSA and MWSPA, if you hadn't been there you wouldn't believe it.
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Re: HQ PICS DOWNLOADS and Status List (MTG) 2013

Postby A.R. » 09 Nov 2013, 16:47

See a comparison between Modern Masters, Duel Decks: Heroes vs. Monsters and Magic 2014:

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Aren't the last two ones blurry?
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Re: HQ PICS DOWNLOADS and Status List (MTG) 2013

Postby Huggybaby » 09 Nov 2013, 16:55

Perhaps, but don't they also have less sharpening artifacts, and aren't they equally as legible at all zoom levels?
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Re: HQ PICS DOWNLOADS and Status List (MTG) 2013

Postby A.R. » 09 Nov 2013, 17:07

> 10. Not sure about misprints right now, can you give an example? Regardless that's a lower priority.

Well, there is no definitive source of information about misprints. They may be divided into 1. standard misprints and 2. non-standard misprints.

Known standard misprints (a list may be incomplete):

- 5 Fifth Edition cards with Portuguese copyright: Game Chaos, Inferno, Ironclaw Curse, Manabarbs, Shivan Dragon (this one was released in HQ)
- 1 Mirage card with differently cropped (and also miscolored) picture: Skulking Ghost
- 1 Odyssey card with incorrect creature type: Cephalid Looter
- 1 Onslaught foil card with alternate picture: Embermage Goblin

I don't mention countless cards with misplaced elements or simply factory errors (it's not really possible to track them all and also I don't think they are really interesting).

All known non-standard misprints are collected here: http://www.magiclibrarities.net/709-rar ... index.html . There is a countless number of cards with missing or incorrect date stamps (in my opinion, they are also not very interesting) and a few ones with missing symbols.

I agree they have a low priority, but it still would be great to have them one day :)

I'm also not excited about Filler cards :) And it's not possible to track them all anyway. The only ones, which may be interesting are those with "M" logo - like http://www.magiclibrarities.net/348-rar ... ml#card025 .

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Re: HQ PICS DOWNLOADS and Status List (MTG) 2013

Postby A.R. » 09 Nov 2013, 17:08

> Perhaps, but don't they also have less sharpening artifacts, and aren't they equally as legible at all zoom levels?

Possibly. But I believe that a blurriness is a much worse effect. Of course, it's just my personal opinion :)
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Re: HQ PICS DOWNLOADS and Status List (MTG) 2013

Postby Huggybaby » 09 Nov 2013, 17:12

We do strive for consistency. Woogerboy is going to look at them and see why they came out softer if possible.
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