Vanguard Cards Update

[PilotPirx]

No, i edited your Vanguards with psp.

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[PilotPirx]

Opened the psd (not with psp )
...but i miss all 4 fonts.
Can you help extreme?

[PilotPirx]

Okay, now with some replacement fonts.
For comparison:

extremes old version

mine, with rules/hand/cardsize updates

mine with full art

Fonts look almost good.
Still think the original title font is necessary...
feedback?

[extreme]

they look good, i think the title was bold. Anyway, i;ll look for the fonts.

[Marek14]

I looked to http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/a ... 58a&page=2 for official rules. I still had a few problems.

1: The official name for numbers on Vanguards are "hand modifier" and "life modifier". I'll correct my file.

2: Second "cast" on Enigma Sphinx Avatar should be "play", apparently.

[PilotPirx]

1. This "modifier" stuff means some more work on the files. Will see if i can do it...
2. Not sure about the cast/play problem. Its probably because of artifact lands, right?!?

[extreme]

pilot, check yer inbox.

[Marek14]

1. This "modifier" stuff means some more work on the files. Will see if i can do it...
2. Not sure about the cast/play problem. Its probably because of artifact lands, right?!?

More specifically, it's about the combination of artifact lands with Painter's Servant.

[PilotPirx]

youre right Marek14.
Read about that somewhere on wizards.
In my opinion the correct phrase should be "cast or play" though.

[Marek14]

youre right Marek14.
Read about that somewhere on wizards.
In my opinion the correct phrase should be "cast or play" though.

No. The M10 terminology is that "play" is for lands or for anything that COULD conceivably be a land.

[PilotPirx]

Well then, now its crystal clear. Thanx for the enlightment!

[PilotPirx]

Hi marek.
Look at this. Is this correct?

[Marek14]

Looks good, although in this specific case I'd have a look at the Wizards page... This seems to have very recent text, and I have changed it to remove the "search" phrase since Hermit Druid Avatar has different wording for taking random card from library. I also didn't know if such "searching" would be affected with Mindlock Orb or Aven Mindcensor. But that's just me, and the official wording might be right (except the last cast/play change). In this one case, I honestly don't know.

One little point: the name of online Vanguards officially ends with "Avatar" and the card type is "Vanguard".

[PilotPirx]

Thought about the search thing.
I think it is okay the way it is on the card, because you usually search your library for cards to put them in your hand or exile them. But in this case you get to play it right away. Errh cast. No, play was right...

Another thing: In your text file, isnt Bosh supposed to deal the damage: "Bosh, Iron Golem Avatar deals ...."? Think its update was missed?!? Your opinion?

"Vanguard"/"Avatar" problem: Putting the "Avatar" to the name line would be very ugly, i think. Though probably correct. I wouldn't wanna do that. What happened to "Character" anyway?
Here some more suggestions for the type line:
"Vanguard Avatar" >>> nice
"Vanguard - Avatar" >>> Avatar as subtype?? nicer
"Vanguard Character" >>> outdated, but oldschool
"Vanguard - Character" >>> same as above
"Vanguard - Enigma Sphinx Avatar" >>> nice but space devouring

[Marek14]

Thought about the search thing.
I think it is okay the way it is on the card, because you usually search your library for cards to put them in your hand or exile them. But in this case you get to play it right away. Errh cast. No, play was right...

Another thing: In your text file, isnt Bosh supposed to deal the damage: "Bosh, Iron Golem Avatar deals ...."? Think its update was missed?!? Your opinion?

"Vanguard"/"Avatar" problem: Putting the "Avatar" to the name line would be very ugly, i think. Though probably correct. I wouldn't wanna do that. What happened to "Character" anyway?
Here some more suggestions for the type line:
"Vanguard Avatar" >>> nice
"Vanguard - Avatar" >>> Avatar as subtype?? nicer
"Vanguard Character" >>> outdated, but oldschool
"Vanguard - Character" >>> same as above
"Vanguard - Enigma Sphinx Avatar" >>> nice but space devouring

Yes, there's a mistake on Bosh. I overlooked it. It should be "Bosh, Iron Golem Avatar deals X damage to target creature or player."

How about making the name line two lines so "Avatar" would fit? Or, if nothing else works, just ditch the "Avatar" - but "Vanguard" should be definitely kept. Avatar cannot be the subtype for the simple reason that it's already a creature subtype.