BATTLE FOR ZENDIKAR

[deicidemilan]

http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/announcing-battle-zendikar-2015-03-09

[skibulk]

So many posts lately this was pushed off the front page! Thanks deicidemilan for always keeping track of these set releases and starting the discussion.

We need a scan of Oblivion Sower...

A question about the Tips and Tricks cards - These used to be separate from the token cards but now appear to be on the token backs. Basically it looks like wizards got smart and now there is no reason to chuck all those pack inserts! Is that correct?

Also, regarding the basic lands - there are 50 of them - 5 of each type in full-art frames and 5 of each type in standard frames. The non-full art lands come in pre-constructed decks, right? And as far as I can tell, the collector's numbers are identical, right?

[charlequin]

I believe it's not 100% of cards that have a token on one side, just around 90%. It is a change they confirmed for this set. The intro packs are the only place I know of to get the non-full-art lands, which at least in Gatherer have exactly the same collector numbers.

[skibulk]

How do we sort the Tip and Ad cards now? I have attached the extras which I scanned. Did I miss any? Which ones appear as fronts? Currently I only know about the Duels Origins ESRB front...

[kudit]

Those are the same ones I have for BFZ.

You can see what I've done for ordering and naming here: http://deckmaster.info/set.php?shortcode=BFZ

This is what I came up with for numbering so that it isn't arbitrary:

7000: Tip cards
0xx: Set Flavor/Story/Characters
00x: Flavor/story
01x: Characters
02x: Factions (clans, broods, guilds)
05x:checklist cards(for set, not for double faced)
1xx: Tips (resources, gameplay, deck building, mechanics, etc)
10x: mechanics
11x: gameplay
12x: formats
7121 Limited
7122 Constructed
7123 Booster Draft
7124 Casual Formats
7125 Commander
13x: deckbuilding
7130 Rarity
7131 Proportions
7132 Size (minimum 60)
15x: resources
7150 Gatherer
7151 Uncharted Realms
7152 Locator
2xx: Website Marketing
7200 MTG.com
7201 FNM
7202 MTGO
7203 Social (Facebook/Twitter)
7204 DailyMTG
7205 PlaneswalkerPoints.com
7206 MTGHerosPath.com
3xx: Magic Product Marketing
7300 Booster Box
7301 Intro Pack
7302 Fat Pack
7303 Event Deck
7304 Duel Deck/Booster Battle Packs
7305 Deckbuilder’s Toolkit
4xx: Event Promotion
7400 Events (Streaming)
7401 Game Day
7402 Pro Tour
7403 Grand Prix
7405 Magic Celebration
5xx: Books/Comics
7501 Ebooks
7504 Novels
7507 Comics
7509 Mail-in offers
6xx: Advertising
7601 MTGMerch.com
7607 Ultra•PRO
7xx: Other Products
7750 Toolbox
7780 Arena
8xx: Apps
7801 Magic Duels/DotP (a for ESRB side, b for PEGI side)
9xx: future products
7900 supplementary set
7901 Next set prerelease/release teaser

[Teppic]

Also, regarding the basic lands - there are 50 of them - 5 of each type in full-art frames and 5 of each type in standard frames. The non-full art lands come in pre-constructed decks, right? And as far as I can tell, the collector's numbers are identical, right?

Yes, and in the intro packs. Do we need scans of the standard frame lands? I can provide these.

Also, will we need scans of the expeditions?

[skibulk]

Yes we need the scandard frame lands. I have scanned the full-art basic lands already.

Yes technically the expeditions are promo cards and are not numbered with the rest of the set. So we need those separately.

[Agetian]

A little report regarding the BFZ extras posted in the "CCGHQ More Releases" folder: the 8/8 blue Octopus token has a cropping error on the bottom (P/T is cut off) in both 200dpi and 300dpi. Thanks a lot for your ongoing effort!

- Agetian

[skibulk]

How should we name the basic lands in this set? Each has two versions with identical collectors numbers. As follows, without the parenthesis:

Plains1A (Full-Art)
Plains1B (Regular)
Plains2A (Full-Art)
Plains2B (Regular)
Plains3A (Full-Art)
Plains3B (Regular)
Plains4A (Full-Art)
Plains4B (Regular)
Plains5A (Full-Art)
Plains5B (Regular)

or

Plains01 (Full-Art)
Plains02 (Regular)
Plains03 (Full-Art)
Plains04 (Regular)
Plains05 (Full-Art)
Plains06 (Regular)
Plains07 (Full-Art)
Plains08 (Regular)
Plains09 (Full-Art)
Plains10 (Regular)

[Teppic]

I'd vote for the first option. Makes sense to keep them paired and related to their collector numbers, i.e., Island1 is card #255 and Island2 is #256, regardless of whether full-art or regular.

[skibulk]

Yeah, I'm trying to fit it into the official naming scheme by Huggybaby. The new challenge here is that we have two variables - 5 artwork X 2 frames each instead of just 5 artwork. I don't think we've ever had something like that before.

EDIT:

Actually, ZEN had this same dilemma. Back then we used:

Full-Art:
Plains1
Plains2
Plains3
Plains4

Regular:
Plains5
Plains6
Plains7
Plains8

In any case, we should settle on something for the torrent update.

[Bog Wraith]

Yeah, I'm trying to fit it into the official naming scheme by Huggybaby. The new challenge here is that we have two variables - 5 artwork X 2 frames each instead of just 5 artwork. I don't think we've ever had something like that before.

EDIT:

Actually, ZEN had this same dilemma. Back then we used:

Full-Art:
Plains1
Plains2
Plains3
Plains4



Regular:
Plains5
Plains6
Plains7
Plains8

In any case, we should settle on something for the torrent update.

Keep in mind that both Forge & MWS use the file names numbered from 1-10 for each of the 5 basic lands. Since most people are using the images for these apps, I think it should be kept as it is.

Just to show how both apps use the pics in the UI, as well as how the files are named, I included these two screenshots to show this.
Both apps are shown with their respective screens showing the lands & the folder & file names that are used to id & display them.

All this is assuming that the .full.jpg extensions are used, but even if not, the naming of the files should be, IMO, sequential.

[kudit]

I agree. It is concerning that they decided to number the full art and the standard frame cards the same as the Info Area, which should be able to identify the card, is identical.

1-5 for full-art and 6-10 for the normal frames would be my preference.

[Bog Wraith]

In the Battle For Zendikar BFZ-EN Extras for both the 200 & 300 DPI versions, the Octopus token has its 8/8 Power & Toughness numbers partially obscured on the bottom by the black frame of the card as seen here:

[charlequin]

Octopus token should be fixed now.