BotArena Bugs

[Marek14]

You're talking about Drudge Skeletons I hope, not Dragon Whelp. Looks to me like Dragon Whelp has a definite bug.

No, it's that the person who implemented Dragon Whelp decided that giving it these irrelevant abilities is the easiest way to count how many times was the ability used

Hmm, actually that doesn't work completely correctly because what if an ability gets countered? Dragon Whelp counts activations, not resolutions. I have another idea: we already have a way to count activations, I think, that's a crucial part of implementing things with limited activations. I could use that... Let me have a look.

EDIT: OK, Had a look and there was an easier way I corrected Dragon Whelp, as well as Farrelite Priest and Initiates of Ebon Hand that were implemented the same way.

Notice that this is still not perfect; properly, Dragon Whelp should have a delayed trigger, so if you activate it 6 times, you should get 3 triggers at end of turn, regardless of whether the Whelp is still on the battlefield. That's planned for phase 2, when I start on delayed triggers as such, this is just a quick fix.

Please see the attached zip file. It contains updated DLLs for Unlimited, Fallen Empires and Fifth Edition, sets where those three cards are implemented. Just replace the ones you already have.

[Marek14]

Riddle time: There is exactly one other card that works like these three, but we don't have it in BotArena yet. Can you name it without looking?

[Emfatic]

1. Tapping to add a third charge counter on Titan Forge crashed the game with a Game Engine error.

2. Lost Auramancers allowed me to put an enchantment into play from my graveyard when it died, but it still had time counters on it.

3. Mesmeric Orb is being activated in the upkeep phase for lands that are being untapped in the untap phase. It should be activated during the phase that the card is being untapped. (This really matters when I have both Mesmeric Orb and Debtors' Knell in play. I want to be able to pick from the graveyard after Mesmeric Orb has dumped creatures into it.)

[Marek14]

Titan Forge: Could not reproduce. I tested it and it worked fine. Can you try again, please? The only wrong thing I found was a missing space in the token identifier and it worked before correction.

Lost Auramancers: I suspect I know where the problem is -- the check for number of time counters is probably happening after the card move and loses all its counters. This is tricky to fix and I will have to ask around. We already have a bug ticket for this (with Chronozoa).

Mesmeric Orb: You're out of luck here because this behavior is correct And I quote:

502.3. No player receives priority during the untap step, so no spells can be cast or resolve and no abilities can be activated or resolve. Any ability that triggers during this step will be held until the next time a player would receive priority, which is usually during the upkeep step. (See rule 503, "Upkeep Step.")

[Emfatic]

Titan Forge: Could not reproduce. I tested it and it worked fine. Can you try again, please? The only wrong thing I found was a missing space in the token identifier and it worked before correction.

BotArena crashes for me a lot actually. That time it could have been something else that caused it; I just don't know what.

Mesmeric Orb: You're out of luck here because this behavior is correct And I quote:

502.3. No player receives priority during the untap step, so no spells can be cast or resolve and no abilities can be activated or resolve. Any ability that triggers during this step will be held until the next time a player would receive priority, which is usually during the upkeep step. (See rule 503, "Upkeep Step.")

Ah, thanks for the clarification, although it is not in my favour.

Anyway, here's another: The lifelink ability of Windbrisk Raptor is not working.

[Spatzi]

I am missing a myr 1/1 token. (from game of Mirrodin precons) It shows up blank.

I then noticed a germ token that came out in a game (mirrodin precons) named 'Germ2469'. I looked in the TK folder for this token and it is named differently: 'Germ2910'. Why is this? And how do I add a myr token jpg to the TK folder so it shows up correctly during a game? (I now see that every appearance of the same token has a different number in the game)


...there IS a 1/1 myr token in the TK folder, but it does not show up in the game when using 'Mirrodin beseiged battle cries' preconstructed deck.

...okay, it is working now. I restarted a game and it showed up correctly!

[Spatzi]

there is something wrong with the precon decks 'boggart feast' and 'kithkin militia'. Played ten games, they all start with exactly the same opening hand. boggart has 4 land, 'boggart mob', 'lowland oaf', 'warren pilferers'. The games play out with exactly the same order of cards every game. I end the game, start a new one, and the opening hand is the same again.

[Marek14]

Spatzi - precons: That's weird. BotArena has a keyword you can put into deck files to specify you don't want to shuffle them, but it's not present in these two. The only thing I can think of is that random seed got stuck somehow...

[Spatzi]

When I blocked 'wizened cenn 3/3' with 'mudbutton torchrunner 1/1', mud went to graveyard, but didn't give me an option to do any damage to a creature or player. The action list showed only 3 blue dots with no text.

[Spatzi]

Spatzi - precons: That's weird. BotArena has a keyword you can put into deck files to specify you don't want to shuffle them, but it's not present in these two. The only thing I can think of is that random seed got stuck somehow...

I rebooted the game and it seems to be okay now.

[Marek14]

When I blocked 'wizened cenn 3/3' with 'mudbutton torchrunner 1/1', mud went to graveyard, but didn't give me an option to do any damage to a creature or player. The action list showed only 3 blue dots with no text.

Hm, that is a known bug. When an ability triggers in combat, sometimes the text is not displayed. In case of Mudbutton Torchrunner, you could try right-click the card and select the target that way, or click and drag.

[Emfatic]

When an ability triggers in combat, sometimes the text is not displayed. In case of Mudbutton Torchrunner, you could try right-click the card and select the target that way, or click and drag.

Wow, that's a nice thing to know. Sure wish there was some kind of guide to tell you these things.

[Marek14]

When an ability triggers in combat, sometimes the text is not displayed. In case of Mudbutton Torchrunner, you could try right-click the card and select the target that way, or click and drag.

Wow, that's a nice thing to know. Sure wish there was some kind of guide to tell you these things.

Too little people And we are so used to BotArena we don't even realize others might find the idiosyncracies weird.

[FranAvalon]

I've posted here relevant info about how you can use BA. I hope that this info would be usefull.

[Spatzi]

How do you see the card that the AI was supposed to show you during certain card actions? This often comes up but i never see an option to look at it. I remember reading something in the faq but this but forgot how to do it.