Re: Revisiting Challenge Mode
Posted:
16 Dec 2013, 16:58
by jatill
Thanks, just what I was looking for. Including the walkthrough!
Re: Revisiting Challenge Mode
Posted:
17 Dec 2013, 02:20
by jatill
What do Enchanted and Archenemy unlock?
Any holy hell is the archenemy hard!! No idea how to approach that boss yet other than maybe getting lucky with a quick tinker.
Re: Revisiting Challenge Mode
Posted:
17 Dec 2013, 02:27
by Korath
Enchanted Evening makes your enchantments indestructible. Archenemy lets you play a random archenemy scheme once per game.
Re: Revisiting Challenge Mode
Posted:
17 Dec 2013, 15:35
by jatill
Korath wrote:Archenemy lets you play a random archenemy scheme once per game.
That is a pretty powerful reward. Gonna have to put some thought in how to beat that one... The matches leading up to it are easy enough at least.
Re: Revisiting Challenge Mode
Posted:
18 Dec 2013, 09:49
by HarlequinCasts
I recently played through all of the challenges too. Some of them are just brutal. And I remember ARchenemy's Cohort frustrated me to no end. I used a
Tinker based
azorius splash black deck here. If you're interested, I basically used the
Decks, Strategy and Challenges forum and posted my decks and observation in each challenge's thread as I got through them.
The only one I don't think I ever completed was the final stage from Magic the Puzzling. I may need someone to drop me a hint on that one, if its even still doable with the current version. I know it requires some pre-sixth editon logic.
Re: Revisiting Challenge Mode
Posted:
18 Dec 2013, 16:25
by jatill
Dear maintainers of the challenge mode, and the rest of the game:
I'm seeing that several challenges were removed or replaced with other challenges.
Is there a list somewhere of ones that were removed?
If they were removed for difficulty, or any other non-technical reason, can we add them back in their own group, and just not make them unlock anything?
Re: Revisiting Challenge Mode
Posted:
04 Jan 2014, 11:10
by RanDomino
If anything, I wish there was a way to compromise on the locked cards thing, if only to stop the flood of people complaining about it. Like to make the cards locked only for challenge mode.
The challenges should be deckbuilding puzzles. I think that for the most part they are successful.
Onslaught in particular was one of the most fun to figure out- especially when I realized how reliant it was on 2/2s and promptly made a reanimator/Oath deck with
Massacre Wurm and Elesh Norn. The Challenge 3 challenges are all great (not only because you have to figure out how to win with only the allowed type, but also how to not die until that point- and, usually, to do it in a way that doesn't result in dead cards during one or the other phase- Instant Gratification was really hard to figure out... my answer was to stall long enough with targeted removal and
Starstorm to use
Beacon of Immortality to gain sick amounts of life, eventually aiming
Beacon of Destruction at the dome four times) but pretty much tapped out (I guess "You may only use Tribal cards" hasn't been used...).
I think challenges should be extremely difficult, as in like a 1/100 chance of winning with a deck which is very good but not necessarily the best for the challenge, or a 1/10 chance with a deck that is highly focused and tuned for the challenge. You should have to earn it!
One thing that could probably be changed is to have more and more varied 'generic' challenge decks for the AI to play- after you've seen them all, they're a lot easier to plan around, which seems like it kind of kills the point. I could probably write up some decks to try to give the AI.
Another problem is that Oath is waaaay too good most of the time. My gameplan for at least half the challenges was "Cast Oath, fetch
Sphinx of the Steel Wind or
Platinum Angel". This could probably be fixed just by adding some generic decks that have outs.
Re: Revisiting Challenge Mode
Posted:
05 Jan 2014, 05:17
by jatill
Challenge decks are coded into the game in this format. So if you wanted to contribute a new deck or 5, and formatted them like this, I suspect someone would be nice enough to add them in.
//_Kaalia_of_the_Vast_WRB_Evil_Angels
CD_KAALIA,
CARD_ID_MOX_JET, 1,
CARD_ID_MOX_PEARL, 1,
CARD_ID_MOX_RUBY, 1,
CARD_ID_BLACK_LOTUS, 1,
CARD_ID_SOL_RING, 1,
CARD_ID_WHEEL_OF_FORTUNE, 1,
CARD_ID_SOL_RING, 1,
CARD_ID_MANA_CRYPT, 1,
CARD_ID_EMERIA_ANGEL, 4,
CARD_ID_BANESLAYER_ANGEL, 4,
CARD_ID_EXALTED_ANGEL, 4,
CARD_ID_ANGEL_OF_DESPAIR, 4,
CARD_ID_PLATINUM_ANGEL, 2,
CARD_ID_AKROMA_ANGEL_OF_FURY, 1,
CARD_ID_AKROMA_ANGEL_OF_WRATH, 1,
CARD_ID_VINDICATE, 4,
CARD_ID_TERMINATE, 4,
CARD_ID_MOUNTAIN, 1,
CARD_ID_PLAINS, 6,
CARD_ID_SWAMP, 5,
CARD_ID_BADLANDS, 4,
CARD_ID_SCRUBLAND, 4,
CARD_ID_PLATEAU, 4,
Re: Revisiting Challenge Mode
Posted:
05 Jan 2014, 09:49
by Korath
Posting deck files, or even just deck names from Stassy's playdeck files, is sufficient. Just need to identify ones that the AI plays consistently well.
Re: Revisiting Challenge Mode
Posted:
05 Jan 2014, 18:49
by Korath
For my part, I absolutely loathe the challenges that are set up so they can't be won except by degenerate decks -
Dredge and
Tinker and Oath and so on - that win on turn 1 or 2 against essentially anything.
Re: Revisiting Challenge Mode
Posted:
06 Jan 2014, 10:21
by stassy
The deck name is enough if it's in the off playdeck, though I think this is was already in another challenge :
Re: Revisiting Challenge Mode
Posted:
06 Jan 2014, 11:35
by Korath
WRB Evil Angels is already in. (Heck, Jatill just pasted its internal def above.) It's the last defined deck, and I know there's been problems with the last one not being randomly choosable; but I've confirmed it can be in dev, at least.
Re: Revisiting Challenge Mode
Posted:
08 Jan 2014, 03:06
by RanDomino
hmm maybe it would help if I played Challenge Mode lately, since I didn't know there were already new decks.
Re: Revisiting Challenge Mode
Posted:
14 Aug 2016, 21:49
by Korath
What do you mean? Screenshot?
Re: Revisiting Challenge Mode
Posted:
16 Aug 2016, 02:39
by BAgate
I think he is a bot. Check his post in the Chords of Calling bug report and see if that makes sense.