The Ultimate Quest Mode Thread
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Re: The Ultimate Quest Mode Thread
by mastroego » 08 Jun 2014, 19:49
I see what you mean, it's another Magic altogether.
I just completed an EPIC draft myself.
I built a counter-loaded Esper deck, which also included Sphinx Sovereign and Sphinx's Herald and a few other creatures.
I won ALL the matches in tooth and nail, desperate fights against the AI.
Once I used all creatures I had for a last ditch desperate block... but sacrificing all of them to the Herald at the last moment, I could summon the Sphinx!
What are the odds with a limited, drafted deck?
Another time, another last ditch block, but I could sacrifice the blocker to Etherium Astrolabe , which made me draw away an useless land... so at the next draw step I got the Sphinx again.
And lastly I won an attrition war, managing to survive again with desperate blocks, until my opponent was finally decked (I was about to concede, when I noticed that the AI had only a couple of cards left, and that I could barely make it...)
An amazing tournament, felt almost like the real thing
I just completed an EPIC draft myself.
I built a counter-loaded Esper deck, which also included Sphinx Sovereign and Sphinx's Herald and a few other creatures.
I won ALL the matches in tooth and nail, desperate fights against the AI.
Once I used all creatures I had for a last ditch desperate block... but sacrificing all of them to the Herald at the last moment, I could summon the Sphinx!
What are the odds with a limited, drafted deck?Another time, another last ditch block, but I could sacrifice the blocker to Etherium Astrolabe , which made me draw away an useless land... so at the next draw step I got the Sphinx again.
And lastly I won an attrition war, managing to survive again with desperate blocks, until my opponent was finally decked (I was about to concede, when I noticed that the AI had only a couple of cards left, and that I could barely make it...)
An amazing tournament, felt almost like the real thing
Re: The Ultimate Quest Mode Thread
by Fizanko » 08 Jun 2014, 21:11
I agree, the Draft tournament in quest mode is amazing.
I'm currently playing a Zendikar-only quest and managed to get 1600+ credits, enough to enter one of the "Rise of the Eldrazi" tournament that was requiring 1500+
After drafting a mix of green and red, and build a deck i thought was rather average, i had the surprise to discover Raid Bombardment in the middle of the draft.
And decided to get as much as possible creatures/spells that would generate eldrazi spawns.
Then oh wow, Raid Bombardment is purely amazing when you manage to get lots of eldrazi spawns.
Managed to win my 1st opponent of the tournament thanks to that enchantment as he had some stronger hitter, but no way to destroy me before i would annihilate his life with all the eldrazi spawns and my low power creatures.
I didn't knew that card before, but now i can see this one becoming a good part of my future decks on the next duels in the quest.
Was funny to look at the AI vs AI matches in 10x speed. But maybe an option to make the AI vs AI matches being only 1 round instead of the usual "best of 3" would be a good idea to speed up the process.
I'm currently playing a Zendikar-only quest and managed to get 1600+ credits, enough to enter one of the "Rise of the Eldrazi" tournament that was requiring 1500+
After drafting a mix of green and red, and build a deck i thought was rather average, i had the surprise to discover Raid Bombardment in the middle of the draft.
And decided to get as much as possible creatures/spells that would generate eldrazi spawns.
Then oh wow, Raid Bombardment is purely amazing when you manage to get lots of eldrazi spawns.
Managed to win my 1st opponent of the tournament thanks to that enchantment as he had some stronger hitter, but no way to destroy me before i would annihilate his life with all the eldrazi spawns and my low power creatures.
I didn't knew that card before, but now i can see this one becoming a good part of my future decks on the next duels in the quest.
Was funny to look at the AI vs AI matches in 10x speed. But maybe an option to make the AI vs AI matches being only 1 round instead of the usual "best of 3" would be a good idea to speed up the process.
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Re: The Ultimate Quest Mode Thread
by KrazyTheFox » 08 Jun 2014, 21:15
Glad you're all enjoying it!Fizanko wrote:I agree, the Draft tournament in quest mode is amazing.
I tried that, but having it be best of three makes the tournament a bit harder, since it's more likely to weed out the weaker decks each match. Once I figure out how to hide the AI matches, I'll probably make them best of 5 to help ensure that harder opponents are faced later in the tournament.Fizanko wrote:But maybe an option to make the AI vs AI matches being only 1 round instead of the usual "best of 3" would be a good idea to speed up the process.
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Re: The Ultimate Quest Mode Thread
by Fizanko » 08 Jun 2014, 21:29
After completing that first tournament (i lost in semi finals) i didn't found it long anymore.
Probably because i got the "excitement of the battle" and so actually enjoyed watching the remaining AI duking it out
So it's not too bad actually to watch both rounds of AI duels.
Anyways, thanks a bunch for that game mode, i couldn't believe how much fun i had (despite i got properly destroyed in semi finals)
My reward was this
And the game told me i placed third, and gave me a free booster pack (Rise of Eldrazi i presume as it was the tournament draft set)
Then inside i found
Yes ! i didn't had it in my stockpile yet, it will go very nicely with my eldrazi spawners
Unfortunately the AI that beat me down in semi final lost in the final, so i couldn't even say that i lost against the best
Probably because i got the "excitement of the battle" and so actually enjoyed watching the remaining AI duking it out
So it's not too bad actually to watch both rounds of AI duels.
Anyways, thanks a bunch for that game mode, i couldn't believe how much fun i had (despite i got properly destroyed in semi finals)
My reward was this
And the game told me i placed third, and gave me a free booster pack (Rise of Eldrazi i presume as it was the tournament draft set)
Then inside i found
Yes ! i didn't had it in my stockpile yet, it will go very nicely with my eldrazi spawners
Unfortunately the AI that beat me down in semi final lost in the final, so i couldn't even say that i lost against the best
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Re: The Ultimate Quest Mode Thread
by KrazyTheFox » 08 Jun 2014, 21:48
Started a new quest since I was having horrible luck on my other one. First cards included Primordial Hydra, Indomitable Ancients, two Serra Angel, Banshee's Blade, Bow of Nylea, and Kalonian Behemoth.
In the next 4 matches I won Omnath, Locus of Mana, Soul of the Harvest, and Sparring Collar.
This is going to be an excellent quest.
In the next 4 matches I won Omnath, Locus of Mana, Soul of the Harvest, and Sparring Collar.
This is going to be an excellent quest.
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Re: The Ultimate Quest Mode Thread
by lujo » 08 Jun 2014, 23:46
Drafting AI for the older (ver old) expansions is very wonky. It hangs up and takes forever even at 10X in Antiquities and the Dark (as well as crashing in the dark).
I wouldn't want those disabled as they're kinda cool (well, homelands was, Antiquities is way too old for this sorta thing), but something really outght to be done about the AI.
The antiquities set is such that someone either draws atrifact immune stuff and wins swiftly, or both draw it and then it's a stalemate with everyone just piling on artifacts with activated abilities. This creates a really, really complicated stalemate.
I wouldn't want those disabled as they're kinda cool (well, homelands was, Antiquities is way too old for this sorta thing), but something really outght to be done about the AI.
The antiquities set is such that someone either draws atrifact immune stuff and wins swiftly, or both draw it and then it's a stalemate with everyone just piling on artifacts with activated abilities. This creates a really, really complicated stalemate.
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Re: The Ultimate Quest Mode Thread
by friarsol » 09 Jun 2014, 04:05
Managed to draft an infinite mana combo in a Shadowmoor/Eventide Quest Tournament draft.. Umbral Mantle + Bloom Tender + Scuttlemutt/Reaper King for a 5 color creature.
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Re: The Ultimate Quest Mode Thread
by KrazyTheFox » 09 Jun 2014, 05:22
Finally placed first in a draft! Snatched up a Gravitational Shift on my first pick and a Linvala, Keeper of Silence on my second. Also picked up a few good fliers, an Emerge Unscathed, and a Distortion Strike. Some life gain helped keep me afloat long enough to dish out enough flying damage.
Prizes included an Emrakul, the Aeons Torn, which I'll be putting to good use soon.
Prizes included an Emrakul, the Aeons Torn, which I'll be putting to good use soon.
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Re: The Ultimate Quest Mode Thread
by Fizanko » 09 Jun 2014, 12:28
I like those "Quest for..." enchantment cards, along with some of my Eldrazi spawners cards, they provided me with enough mana to say "you can come in my friend" to my Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
And it wasn't a round too early, because the AI already fielded cards like Terra Stomper , Pathrazer of Ulamog and Pelakka Wurm.
Oh joy and the consequence of Emrakul's coming on the AI
play an extra-turn + annihilator 6 is really horrible for an opponent
Soon enough gold for another draft tournament
And it wasn't a round too early, because the AI already fielded cards like Terra Stomper , Pathrazer of Ulamog and Pelakka Wurm.
Oh joy and the consequence of Emrakul's coming on the AI
play an extra-turn + annihilator 6 is really horrible for an opponent
Soon enough gold for another draft tournament
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Re: The Ultimate Quest Mode Thread
by Fizanko » 09 Jun 2014, 22:53
While waiting to get enough gold to enter another draft tournament, i decided to attempt the Khai Buddha challenge on my Zendikar block-only quest
And i was happy to manage to beat it and got my first Zendikar planeswalker, Chandra Ablaze
i did it with my Green+Red+Colorless deck :
currently on a 32/7 win/loss ratio, the other deck i have been using and had fun with , entirely Black :
both decks have room for improvement for how i want them to work, will get them nicer after some more boosters hopefully.
My observation so far in comparison to Ravnica is that Zendikar is much more broken and nowhere near as balanced.
But don't get me wrong, i do not mean it is less fun (as i have fun with it), just much less balanced
And i was happy to manage to beat it and got my first Zendikar planeswalker, Chandra Ablaze
i did it with my Green+Red+Colorless deck :
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currently on a 32/7 win/loss ratio, the other deck i have been using and had fun with , entirely Black :
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both decks have room for improvement for how i want them to work, will get them nicer after some more boosters hopefully.
My observation so far in comparison to Ravnica is that Zendikar is much more broken and nowhere near as balanced.
But don't get me wrong, i do not mean it is less fun (as i have fun with it), just much less balanced
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Re: The Ultimate Quest Mode Thread
by timmermac » 09 Jun 2014, 23:16
At the quarter pole in my current quest's first "season", I am 26-15 with a 5-color landwalker and heavy artillery deck.
Here is the deck
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Re: The Ultimate Quest Mode Thread
by Fizanko » 09 Jun 2014, 23:22
You're using a lot of cards in your deck. Isn't it making it a bit too unpredictable for keeping up with an AI opponent using a 60 cards deck ?
Impressive that you managed a 26/15 with it
Impressive that you managed a 26/15 with it
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Re: The Ultimate Quest Mode Thread
by timmermac » 09 Jun 2014, 23:39
I'm really bad at narrowing cards out of decks, so I usually choose not to do so. Plus, I like having a lot of ways I can beat up on opponents. <grin>
Edit: I just beat James Bond for the second time and picked up my third Zephid's Embrace as one of the prizes. I also picked up the reason I like playing with such big decks. Battle of Wits ftw!
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Re: The Ultimate Quest Mode Thread
by Fizanko » 10 Jun 2014, 00:09
Removing cards to match the 60 can be a pain when you have so many good cards
In other news, on a duel the AI played Deathless Angel
Already that's a very annoying card, as the thing simply does not die as long as the AI has 2 white mana to play for it each turn.
Now that was already hard and near impossible for me to win, as convenientely the AI wiped out all my cards from the battlefield, but it decided it was not enough and played Rite of Replication , and had enough mana to kick it.
As a result :
Yes, 5 Deathless Angel
My only consolation would be that this turn the AI didn't had the required 2 white mana and after attacking with the original Deathless Angel, it lost it to my attached Brink of Disaster.
Then funny how a round can play completely differently.
As much as the AI destroyed me in 1st round, in the 2nd and 3rd round he got absolutely no chance , because fortunately he wasn't the only one using broken cards :
My Admonition Angel is really great too at getting rid of my problems
Here's the zendikar-only white/black deck i'm testing there, with lots of Ally card, hoping to get some nice P/T bonus cascade :
In other news, on a duel the AI played Deathless Angel
Already that's a very annoying card, as the thing simply does not die as long as the AI has 2 white mana to play for it each turn.
Now that was already hard and near impossible for me to win, as convenientely the AI wiped out all my cards from the battlefield, but it decided it was not enough and played Rite of Replication , and had enough mana to kick it.
As a result :
Yes, 5 Deathless Angel
My only consolation would be that this turn the AI didn't had the required 2 white mana and after attacking with the original Deathless Angel, it lost it to my attached Brink of Disaster.
Then funny how a round can play completely differently.
As much as the AI destroyed me in 1st round, in the 2nd and 3rd round he got absolutely no chance , because fortunately he wasn't the only one using broken cards :
My Admonition Angel is really great too at getting rid of my problems
Here's the zendikar-only white/black deck i'm testing there, with lots of Ally card, hoping to get some nice P/T bonus cascade :
- Fizanko-ZenWhiteBlack | Open
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Re: The Ultimate Quest Mode Thread
by Mitlan » 10 Jun 2014, 20:41
i just want to thank everyone involved in the addition of draft events into the campaing, it's a feature i've been wishing to be for a long time...THANKS AGAIN
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