Forge Beta: 01-11-2014 ver 1.5.10
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Re: Forge Beta: 01-11-2014 ver 1.5.10
by tasteful » 14 Jan 2014, 03:17
this is kind of an angels on the head of a pin argument but suffice to say it's not in your hand.Marek14 wrote:I'm not sure about that, Sol. It's not on the battlefield yet -- it's entering it. If it's not in your hand either, where exactly is it?friarsol wrote:Right, the important bit is in the Amplify reminder text "As ~ ETB", if the creature is Entering the Battlefield, it's no longer in your hand.cc-drake wrote:Well, I'm not sure if the creature is already on the battlefield when amplify works. However, I found this in the rulings:
702.36a. Amplify is a static ability. ―Amplify N means ―As this object enters the battlefield, reveal any number of cards from your hand that share a creature type with it. This permanent enters the battlefield with N +1/+1 counters on it for each card revealed this way. You can‘t reveal this card or any other cards that are entering the battlefield at the same time as this card.
Re: Forge Beta: 01-11-2014 ver 1.5.10
by sliversoul » 14 Jan 2014, 03:28
Description: [I played the card rise of the dark realms when there was no creatures and the game crashed on me. Now when i try to start a new game, I can't see any of my hand or the field]
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Re: Forge Beta: 01-11-2014 ver 1.5.10
by drdev » 14 Jan 2014, 03:58
I'd recommend clicking Reset Match Layout in Preferences.sliversoul wrote:Description: [I played the card rise of the dark realms when there was no creatures and the game crashed on me. Now when i try to start a new game, I can't see any of my hand or the field]
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Also, please include the stack trace in the future when reporting crashes as it makes it easier to investigate for us. Thanks.
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Re: Forge Beta: 01-11-2014 ver 1.5.10
by Marek14 » 14 Jan 2014, 07:57
I don't think so. See the CompRules:tasteful wrote:this is kind of an angels on the head of a pin argument but suffice to say it's not in your hand.
The reveal limit is not a reminder text; it's an official part of the ability, which wouldn't make sense if the card couldn't be in your hand when amplify is applied.702.36a Amplify is a static ability. "Amplify N" means "As this object enters the battlefield, reveal any number of cards from your hand that share a creature type with it. This permanent enters the battlefield with N +1/+1 counters on it for each card revealed this way. You can't reveal this card or any other cards that are entering the battlefield at the same time as this card."
And next, please have a look at one other card that has an amplify-like ability: Arsenal Thresher:
In other words, Arsenal Thresher doesn't have the exact wording for amplify, so it has to specify that you must reveal OTHER artifact cards (otherwise you could reveal itself when it enters the battlefield from your hand), and you CAN reveal an artifact that enters the battlefield at the same time since the clause that forbids it for amplify is missing.As Arsenal Thresher enters the battlefield, you may reveal any number of other artifact cards from your hand. Arsenal Thresher enters the battlefield with a +1/+1 counter on it for each card revealed this way.
5/1/2009 If multiple Arsenal Threshers are entering the battlefield at the same time (for example, if Warp World is resolving), you may reveal the same artifact cards from your hand for each of them.
5/1/2009 If Arsenal Thresher and another artifact are entering the battlefield from your hand at the same time, you may reveal that other artifact for Arsenal Thresher. If that artifact is a second Arsenal Thresher, you may reveal each Arsenal Thresher for the other.
Re: Forge Beta: 01-11-2014 ver 1.5.10
by Caranthol » 14 Jan 2014, 09:44
Good morning.
I tryed yesterday the new constructed game against three oponents and all of them only attack me, cause I lose the game very fast. Is it allways the way it works? In that case, I think it isn't an interesting game mode.
I tryed yesterday the new constructed game against three oponents and all of them only attack me, cause I lose the game very fast. Is it allways the way it works? In that case, I think it isn't an interesting game mode.
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Re: Forge Beta: 01-11-2014 ver 1.5.10
by Bundy » 14 Jan 2014, 09:53
Description: Activated Zuran Orb.
Cards i have in play: Exploration, 2xZuran Orb, Burgeoning and Tangle Wire.
Tangle Wire was just played and did not trigger yet.
I can continue the game like normal and Zuran Orb works fine in the next turn.
Cards i have in play: Exploration, 2xZuran Orb, Burgeoning and Tangle Wire.
Tangle Wire was just played and did not trigger yet.
I can continue the game like normal and Zuran Orb works fine in the next turn.
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Re: Forge Beta: 01-11-2014 ver 1.5.10
by Marek14 » 14 Jan 2014, 15:06
AI activates Talon of Pain with no counters on it, dealing X damage.
AI refused to copy Pact of Negation with Hive Mind (the whole point of deck being that it shouldn't be able to do so!).
AI refused to copy Pact of Negation with Hive Mind (the whole point of deck being that it shouldn't be able to do so!).
Re: Forge Beta: 01-11-2014 ver 1.5.10
by Bundy » 15 Jan 2014, 17:56
Description: Playing Crop Rotation. Error popped up when sacrificing a land for Crop Rotation.
Sacrifice for Sacred Mesa (see my last report) happens what looks like at random. I can sacrifice a pagasus for 3 rounds without errors, then suddenly an error, then some more turns without errors and suddenly the next turn gives the error again
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Sacrifice for Sacred Mesa (see my last report) happens what looks like at random. I can sacrifice a pagasus for 3 rounds without errors, then suddenly an error, then some more turns without errors and suddenly the next turn gives the error again
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Re: Forge Beta: 01-11-2014 ver 1.5.10
by Marek14 » 15 Jan 2014, 19:03
Call to the Kindred should give you an option to not put any creature onto the battlefield, even if valid creature is found.
Undead Warchief reduces cost of face-down Skinthinner.
When Unhallowed Cathar dies, he comes back next end step.
Orim's Chant doesn't prevent player from suspending cards:
Undead Warchief reduces cost of face-down Skinthinner.
When Unhallowed Cathar dies, he comes back next end step.
Orim's Chant doesn't prevent player from suspending cards:
Tokens from Hammer of Purphoros use standard image of 3/3 golem tokens, but they are not identical: they are enchantments, so they should have their own image.115.2e A player who has a card with suspend in his or her hand may exile that card. This is a special action. A player can take this action any time he or she has priority, but only if he or she could begin to cast that card by putting it onto the stack. See rule 702.60, "Suspend."
Re: Forge Beta: 01-11-2014 ver 1.5.10
by Sereosh » 16 Jan 2014, 12:42
Maybe I misunderstood the card, but it seems that Teferi's Puzzle Box is bugged:
Playing 1v1 Commander, I have Teferi's Puzzle Box on the battlefield. Opponent goes to his draw step, so Teferi's Puzzle Box triggers. He has 10 cards in hand at this moment. Forge asks me to choose the order of the cards he's going to put on the bottom of his library, and after that my opponent draws 20 cards.
So, why am I choosing the order of his cards, and why is he drawing the double of cards he's supposed to draw?
Playing 1v1 Commander, I have Teferi's Puzzle Box on the battlefield. Opponent goes to his draw step, so Teferi's Puzzle Box triggers. He has 10 cards in hand at this moment. Forge asks me to choose the order of the cards he's going to put on the bottom of his library, and after that my opponent draws 20 cards.
So, why am I choosing the order of his cards, and why is he drawing the double of cards he's supposed to draw?
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Re: Forge Beta: 01-11-2014 ver 1.5.10
by operations » 16 Jan 2014, 16:39
Hi!
Where can I find a list of mising cards? The cards that need to be implemented yet...
Thanks!
Where can I find a list of mising cards? The cards that need to be implemented yet...
Thanks!
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Re: Forge Beta: 01-11-2014 ver 1.5.10
by friarsol » 16 Jan 2014, 19:43
This list is from my developer version so a few of these aren't in 1.5.10 yet. This also doesn't include anything from Born of the Gods, since that set isn't released yet.operations wrote:Hi!
Where can I find a list of mising cards? The cards that need to be implemented yet...
Thanks!
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Re: Forge Beta: 01-11-2014 ver 1.5.10
by RevivedPicard » 16 Jan 2014, 19:44
After installing this new release i cannot see the board and my hand in any games .... forge sems to works fine becuse it keeps going and tell me things in log but i cannot see ....
help??
help??
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Re: Forge Beta: 01-11-2014 ver 1.5.10
by Chris H. » 16 Jan 2014, 20:06
RevivedPicard wrote:After installing this new release i cannot see the board and my hand in any games .... forge sems to works fine becuse it keeps going and tell me things in log but i cannot see ....
help??
Item number 4 in the Forge Frequently Asked Questions topic may fix this issue.
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