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Re: AI attacking and blocking Observations

Postby Milod » 10 Oct 2012, 21:33

dont block with a souldbound creature example silverblade paladin bounded with knight of glory i attack with 1 creature ai decides to block and blocked it with silverblade paladin so why not knight of glory?
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Re: AI attacking and blocking Observations

Postby Spatzi » 11 Oct 2012, 00:42

Lust for War is attached to my 2/2 Daggerback Baselisk. The 2/2 is forced to attack every turn, but I am not taking any damage. (Should be 3 damage to controller each turn.)
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Re: AI attacking and blocking Observations

Postby friarsol » 11 Oct 2012, 01:55

Spatzi wrote:Lust for War is attached to my 2/2 Daggerback Baselisk. The 2/2 is forced to attack every turn, but I am not taking any damage. (Should be 3 damage to controller each turn.)
Spatzi, please place bug reports in the thread of the version you are reporting about. This thread is for observations about how the AI makes poor decisions in combat so one of the devs can look into improving it.
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Re: AI attacking and blocking Observations

Postby Sloth » 11 Oct 2012, 17:32

cc-drake wrote:AI is on 6 and I attack with a 6/5. AI blocks with a 1/1 and a 3/5 and loses both creatures in combat. Seems something got broken since the last beta...
Andy9973 wrote:While playing I noticed the same as cc-drake. When I attack with a creature with high power (and no trample) the AI blocks with two or more creatures which are not strong enough to kill the attacking creature. This happens on a regular basis to me, no matter if the creature I attack with is a Geist-Honored Monk, Sunspear Shikari equipped with Strata Scythe or a Timbermaw Larva.

I have the feeling that this happens more often when I attack with only a few very big creatures (e.g one or two creatures that are 9/9 each). I also got the impression that the AI always blocks with exactly two creatures in these situations but never with three or more creatures.

I attached one of my decks that I played with (just remove the .zip ending in the filename). Try to get a big Dungrove Elder or Timbermaw Larva and attack. Once the total power of the attacking creature(s) is enough to kill the AI it'll start blocking and often it will block with two creatures.

The following picture shows an exemplary situation I had while testing this a bit more.
(It's a big picture, so I put it into a spoiler.)

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gos wrote:The AI is repeatedly blocking with too many creatures in version 1.2.15. It blocks non-trampling attackers with multiple creatures who don't have the possibility of killing the attacker instead of just chump blocking.
I finally found and fixed this bug. Thanks cc-drake, Andy9973 and gos.

Spatzi wrote:Lust for War is attached to my 2/2 Daggerback Baselisk. The 2/2 is forced to attack every turn, but I am not taking any damage. (Should be 3 damage to controller each turn.)
I can't reproduce this.
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Re: AI attacking and blocking Observations

Postby cc-drake » 13 Oct 2012, 06:52

I am at 3 life, AI is at 20. I control Sunweb, AI controls a Howlgeist with a +1/+1 counter. AI decides to attack and loses his guy to my Sunweb.
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Re: AI attacking and blocking Observations

Postby gwurb » 14 Oct 2012, 01:43

Should the AI always activate +*/+* abilities regardless of board state?
It's currently activating the Perilous Shadow +2/+2 ability when it's blocking a creature (eg: Selesnya Sentry) that's regenerating, and in this case wouldn't have killed it anyway.
Also activating the Korozda Guildmage +1/+1,intimidate ability on itself during its turn even if it's not going to attack.
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Re: AI attacking and blocking Observations

Postby jmartus » 14 Oct 2012, 04:33

questionable attacking from the ai
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Re: AI attacking and blocking Observations

Postby Milod » 23 Oct 2012, 13:28

compy used Detention Sphere on his own equiped trapanation blade :roll:

and somtimes it uses it without any targets
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Re: AI attacking and blocking Observations

Postby Milod » 23 Oct 2012, 16:07

had 2 life left and 3 creatures without flying (tapped from the last attack) and nohting more ai turn now with 1 creature(sublime archangel)it decides to use supreme verdict while it could have attacked for the win

so my quesion is why cant the ai see this or is to much forward thinking for the ai?
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Re: AI attacking and blocking Observations

Postby gos » 23 Oct 2012, 18:01

AI Clone d his own legendary creature.
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Re: AI attacking and blocking Observations

Postby gwurb » 24 Oct 2012, 00:26

AI used Spitting Image on its own Phantasmal Image (copying a Qasali Pridemage), destroying it.
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Re: AI attacking and blocking Observations

Postby Zirbert » 24 Oct 2012, 22:56

The AI used Obelisk of Undoing to bounce a Wasp token (courtesy of The Hive) which it had declared as a chump blocker. It stood to gain nothing by doing so - there was no reason for the AI to prefer bouncing the token over letting it take the hit (no lifelink or damage triggers on my creature, etc.).

(Perhaps this is too insignificant a corner case to take into account, since there would be a benefit to bouncing a recastable nontoken creature this way.)
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Re: AI attacking and blocking Observations

Postby Sloth » 25 Oct 2012, 21:09

Milod wrote:compy used Detention Sphere on his own equiped trapanation blade :roll:

and somtimes it uses it without any targets
Fixed! Thanks Milod.

gos wrote:AI Clone d his own legendary creature.
Fixed! Thanks gos.

Zirbert wrote:The AI used Obelisk of Undoing to bounce a Wasp token (courtesy of The Hive) which it had declared as a chump blocker. It stood to gain nothing by doing so - there was no reason for the AI to prefer bouncing the token over letting it take the hit (no lifelink or damage triggers on my creature, etc.).

(Perhaps this is too insignificant a corner case to take into account, since there would be a benefit to bouncing a recastable nontoken creature this way.)
Fixed! Thanks Zirbert.
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Re: AI attacking and blocking Observations

Postby yagi » 26 Oct 2012, 08:00

I'm at 8 life and Doran, the Siege Tower in play. AI has Raging Ravine, Treetop Village and Kitchen Finks with a -1/-1 counter. However AI only attacked with Treetop Village. It seems that AI take into account that Kitchen Finks would only deal 1 damage because of Doran, the Siege Tower but did not take into account that Raging Ravine would get a +1/+1 counter when it attacks so total damage dealt would be 8.
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Re: AI attacking and blocking Observations

Postby ArsenalNut » 26 Oct 2012, 14:35

AI is at 3 life and a Rakdos Shred-Freak on the board. I attack with a Lotleth Troll and Diregraf Ghoul. AI blocks the Lotleth Troll and dies from the trample damage.
So many cards, so little time
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