Forge Beta: 1-23-2015 ver 1.5.33

[bjornsnoen]

With Enduring Renewal and Wild Cantor in play, and a Grapeshot in hand, trying to go infinite storm with Wild Cantor only increments the storm count the first time you play it.

Fixed!

Fantastic! I found another one today, seems like it should be easy to fix, as it must have come up before. Supplant Form in Fate Reforged essentially creates a Clone token, but it does it wrong. When it clones a creature with auras attached to it, it copies them post aura. Happened when the AI cast Supplant From on my Typhoid Rats wearing a Jeskai Runemark. I'm now staring down a 3/3 deathtouch.

[leebenningfield]

When casting certain cards off of Mind's Desire (I noticed it with Gitaxian Probe and Preordain), they go back to the flashback zone, and I can keep casting the same card over and over.

[bjornsnoen]

Oh, Logic Knot won't let you counter for values > 9. When I click "other" and input 11 the spell just bounces back to my hand.

[Marek14]

Lands changed by something like Blood Moon still list their old abilities (they can't be activated, but the Card Detail panel still shows them).

[kestell]

If Hooded Hydra is manifested, and turned face up by paying {g}{g}, it should still get 5 +1/+1 counters.

[friarsol]

If Hooded Hydra is manifested, and turned face up by paying {g}{g}, it should still get 5 +1/+1 counters.

I've had Hooded Hydra in a recent quest I've been playing and that works for me last time I used it's morph cost. Maybe it was fixed since the release...

[tjtillman]

Temur War Shaman's triggered "fight" ability is a "may" ability.

[tjtillman]

The computer is able to somehow target multiple of his own creatures to get the +1/+1 counter for Hunt the Weak.

[sharkus]

If Hooded Hydra is manifested, and turned face up by paying {g}{g}, it should still get 5 +1/+1 counters.

I've had Hooded Hydra in a recent quest I've been playing and that works for me last time I used it's morph cost. Maybe it was fixed since the release...

True, but when it is Manifested face down (not Morphed) you can turn it over for {g}{g} (it's casting cost) and should still get 5 +1/+1 counters. A few other morphs should also take advantage of the lower casting cost and still get the flip effects (e.g. Master of Pearls, Thousand Winds, etc).

-Sharkus

[Nekoatl]

If Hooded Hydra is manifested, and turned face up by paying {g}{g}, it should still get 5 +1/+1 counters.

I've had Hooded Hydra in a recent quest I've been playing and that works for me last time I used it's morph cost. Maybe it was fixed since the release...

True, but when it is Manifested face down (not Morphed) you can turn it over for {g}{g} (it's casting cost) and should still get 5 +1/+1 counters. A few other morphs should also take advantage of the lower casting cost and still get the flip effects (e.g. Master of Pearls, Thousand Winds, etc).

-Sharkus

I tried it, and when using the manifest effect I was asked what to pay for X, but regardless of my choice, 5 +1/+1 counters were put on it. Can you give more details as to what was happening when you didn't get the 5 +1/+1 counters?

[bjornsnoen]

The AI just killed my Bogardan Hellkite with a Hero's Downfall. Not surprising, but I also have a Progenitor Mimic copying the Bogardan Hellkite. That's not right, right?

[Marek14]

I tried it, and when using the manifest effect I was asked what to pay for X, but regardless of my choice, 5 +1/+1 counters were put on it. Can you give more details as to what was happening when you didn't get the 5 +1/+1 counters?

You shouldn't be asked to pay for X -- as the mana cost is not paid in context of casting the card as a spell, X should be automatically 0.

[timmermac]

The AI just killed my Bogardan Hellkite with a Hero's Downfall. Not surprising, but I also have a Progenitor Mimic copying the Bogardan Hellkite. That's not right, right?

There's nothing that would protect the original Hellkite from being killed in that instance, unless there is something else on the board that would keep it alive.

[friarsol]

You shouldn't be asked to pay for X -- as the mana cost is not paid in context of casting the card as a spell, X should be automatically 0.

I'm not so sure about that:

107.3d If a cost associated with a special action, such as a suspend cost or a morph cost, has an
or an X in it, the value of X is chosen by the player taking the special action as he or she pays
that cost

[Nordos]

The AI just killed my Bogardan Hellkite with a Hero's Downfall. Not surprising, but I also have a Progenitor Mimic copying the Bogardan Hellkite. That's not right, right?

There's nothing that would protect the original Hellkite from being killed in that instance, unless there is something else on the board that would keep it alive.

I guess he means that the Ai should have rather killed the Progenitor Mimic?
Then again, that should go to viewtopic.php?f=26&t=7032 ... ^^