Forge Beta: 1-23-2015 ver 1.5.33
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Re: Forge Beta: 1-23-2015 ver 1.5.33
by muppet » 01 Feb 2015, 10:44
Oh it was pretty simple opponent just had 5 spirits from my Forbidden Ochard and I had just the Griselbrand + Oath I'll keep an eye out for it and let you know if I see it again with the new version.friarsol wrote:It does work the way you think (Lifelink doesn't use the stack), but I'm unable to reproduce this. Maybe one of the creatures attacking you had first strike so you were reduced to 0 or less life before Griselbrand dealt damage. Please post more details about your board state.muppet wrote:I think lifelink is not working at the right time. For example I block with Griselbrand and am at 2 life say the attackers are doing 5 damage I shd gain the life at the same time I'm dealing the damage so I shdn't die. Currently I do indeed die which I think is wrong.
If this is not correct please tell me.
I think the rules changed when magic 2010 was released roughly.
Re: Forge Beta: 1-23-2015 ver 1.5.33
by Marek14 » 02 Feb 2015, 09:51
Yes, I've noticed that. Triggers that trigger during cleanup don't go on stack until upkeep of next turn, which is a problem.Zirbert wrote:Upon further investigation, the issue might be this ruling from Abyssal Nocturnus's Gatherer page (http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=96858):Zirbert wrote:I discarded a card during my cleanup because of having 8 cards in hand. The AI had an Abyssal Nocturnus, which triggered late enough to allow it to keep the +2/+2 bonus until the end of its own turn, meaning it could (and did) attack with it as a 4/4. It should still have been a 2/2, because I didn't discard any cards during the AI's turn.
Cleanup appears to be getting considered as part of the following turn, not a late step in the current turn. This is probably related to the Thawing Glaciers issue I recently reported (you can safely activate TG during your turn with 7 cards in hand without having to discard one because the triggered bounce, which is supposed to happen during cleanup, doesn't happen until the start of the AI's turn).Looks like the second cleanup step isn't triggering.If your opponent discards any cards during his or her cleanup step to get down to the maximum hand size, the ability will trigger and players will receive priority. After that cleanup step ends, a new one will begin and Abyssal Nocturnus's effect will end. It won't carry over into the next turn.
Re: Forge Beta: 1-23-2015 ver 1.5.33
by awebgsu » 02 Feb 2015, 18:16
Sudden Reclamation is only letting me select a land card to return from the graveyard but not the creature card.
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