Card Requests

[Iran]

Interesting Cards =>

1. Pyromancer Ascension
2. Abundance
3. Karn Liberated
4. Summoning Trap
5. Liliana of the Vein
6. Snapcaster Mage
7. Caterwauling Boggart
8. Demoralize
9. Gruul Nodorog
10. Stormblood Berserker
11. Two-Headed Sliver
12. Viashino Runner
13. Vine Kami
14. Kruin Outlaw / Terror of Kruin Pass
15. Two-Headed Dragon
16. Springjack Pasture
17. Mirrorweave

18. Valor Made Real
19. Dream Halls
20. Fist of Suns
21. Plague of Vermin
22. Sasaya, Orochi Ascendant
23. Scapeshift
24. Echo Circlet
25. Gate to the Aether
26. Coalition Victory
27. High Ground
28. Palace Guard
29. Yare




Thanks

[SoulStorm]

I tried Vesuva once upon a time. I thought it'd be just like Clone. But Forge handles lands differently enough that it was a no go. I was thinking about this while doing some of the mindless in-game downloader coding the last few days. I think it can be done with an Optional ChangesZone trigger with Static$ True and using AF_CopyPermanent. Anyways, when I get a chance, I'm going to try that route. That should allow me to script Clone and fellows too (instead of hard-code).

That would be awesome slapshot! Vesuva wants to be in my colorless Locus/Urzatron deck.

[mtgrares]

Here are a few card requests that somebody sent me by email: Fade Away, Cataclysm, Limited Resources, Mana Web, Yawgmoth's Will, Mogg Flunkies, Warrior en-Kor, Nomads en-Kor, War's Toll.

Old Magic cards never disappear, they just take a break.

[jeffwadsworth]

I'd like to see Druidic Satchel, Vesuva and Mycosynth Lattice.

Thanks

I second Vesuva.

I tried Vesuva once upon a time. I thought it'd be just like Clone. But Forge handles lands differently enough that it was a no go. I was thinking about this while doing some of the mindless in-game downloader coding the last few days. I think it can be done with an Optional ChangesZone trigger with Static$ True and using AF_CopyPermanent. Anyways, when I get a chance, I'm going to try that route. That should allow me to script Clone and fellows too (instead of hard-code).

I believe this would have to done with something like this (bare-bones script):

ChangesZone Vesuva TrigChooseLand Static$ True
AB ChoosePermanent ValidTgts$ Land SubAbility$ DBAnimate
DBAnimate:Animate Defined$ Self | CopyCard$ ChosenPermanent

Of course, AB$ ChoosePermanent and the CopyCard$ aren't coded.

[slapshot5]

I believe this would have to done with something like this (bare-bones script):

ChangesZone Vesuva TrigChooseLand Static$ True
AB ChoosePermanent ValidTgts$ Land SubAbility$ DBAnimate
DBAnimate:Animate Defined$ Self | CopyCard$ ChosenPermanent

Of course, AB$ ChoosePermanent and the CopyCard$ aren't coded.

Well, ChoosePermanent is coded in my local copy. I hadn't thought of the animate piece. I don't really want to piggy-back a CopyCard$ onto AF_Animate. Perhaps an AF_BecomesCopy? Either way, this didn't work nearly as slick as I was hoping it would.

-slapshot5

[otherright]

Why can Evil Twin not be coded?

[jeffwadsworth]

Why can Evil Twin not be coded?

Well, because it is similar to Vesuva. We would need an AB$ BecomesCopy, etc. The secondary part of the card is doable.

[jeffwadsworth]

Here are a few card requests that somebody sent me by email: Fade Away, Cataclysm, Limited Resources, Mana Web, Yawgmoth's Will, Mogg Flunkies, Warrior en-Kor, Nomads en-Kor, War's Toll.

Old Magic cards never disappear, they just take a break.

Fade Away -> not doable in script yet due to the way sacrifices work.
Cataclysm -> would need a Permanent.notRemembered for the Sacrifice.
Limited Resources -> same as above.
Mana Web -> This one is very close, but you can't differentiate the "ValidCards$ Land.YouDontCtrl" in regards to the mana produced.
Yawgmoth's Will -> Very cool card, but we can't do the play from Graveyard mechanic yet.
Mogg Flunkies -> Same problem as War's Toll. The timing of the keyword check is not instantaneous.
Warriors en-Kor -> not scriptable yet
Nomads en-Kor -> same as above
War's Toll -> Tricky. It depends on the timing of any keywords attached to the other creatures. In other words, the opponent attacks, which triggers a pumpall that places the keyword "CARDNAME must attack this turn" on all his/her creatures. Would that keyword be checked before the declare attackers step is over? Nope, it does not.

[slapshot5]

Yawgmoth's Will -> Very cool card, but we can't do the play from Graveyard mechanic yet.

Sure we can. I fact, this is already in SVN.

-slapshot5

[Iran]

Yawgmoth's Will -> Very cool card, but we can't do the play from Graveyard mechanic yet.

Sure we can. I fact, this is already in SVN.

-slapshot5

Wheel of Sun and Moon can be script too?

[PsiOptics]

Well here is a long list =)

Equipment Related
Auriok Steelshaper
Leonin Shikari
Godo, Bandit Warlord
Puresteel Paladin
Vulshok Battlemaster
Temptation Blade
Sunforger
Deathrender
Cranial Plating
Tatsumasa, the Dragon's Fang

Artifacts
Energy Chamber
Coalition Relic
Rings of Brighthearth
Forcefield
Power Conduit
Draco
Steel Hellkite
Hex Parasite
Phyrexian Revoker

Legends
Kaalia of the Vast
Crosis, the Purger
Intet, the Dreamer
Ghave, Guru of Spores
Haakon, Stromgald Scourge
Eight-and-a-Half-Tails
Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir
(all of the Myojins)

Instant
Manamorphose
Chord of Calling
Sins of the Past
Ghostway
Gifts Ungiven
Spiritual Visit
Orim's Chant
Early Harvest

Sorcery
Scapeshift
Savor the Moment
Banefire
Demonfire
Rolling Thunder
Chain Lightning
Consume Spirit
Soul Burn
Reprocess
Weird Harvest

Creature
Skaab Ruinator
Necrotic Ooze
Dread Cacodemon
Entomber Exarch
Vexing Shusher
Auratouched Mage
Necravolver
Rakavolver
Nomad Mythmaker
Skarrgan Firebird
Grand Abolisher
Blinding Angel
Stonehorn Dignitary
Quicksilver Dragon
Hellkite Charger
Mana-Charged Dragon (I don't think joinforces needs to be factored in since your just playing AI but still for you better than Shivan Dragon)

Enchantment
Paradox Haze
Promise of Bunrei
Solitary Confinement
Runed Halo
Nevermore
Exclusion Ritual
Reality Acid
Faith's Fetters
Protective Sphere
Heartbeat of Spring
Mana Flair

Land
Glacial Chasm
Boseiju, Who Shelters All
Hall of the Bandit Lord






Also the Battlemage cycle from Planeshift and the single one from Planarchaos

[jeffwadsworth]

Wheel of Sun and Moon can be script too?

I believe this would require something like this:

| Open

Name:Wheel of Sun and Moon
ManaCost:GW GW
Types:Enchantment Aura
Text:Enchant player
A:SP$ Attach | Cost$ GW GW | ValidTgts$ Player | AILogic$ Pump
S:Mode$ Continuous | Affected$ EnchantedPlayer | AddTrigger$ TrigChangesZone | AddSVar$ TrigChangeZone
SVar:TrigChangesZone:Mode$ ChangesZone | Origin$ Any | Destination$ Graveyard | Static$ True | ValidCard$ Card.YouCtrl | Execute$ TrigChangeZone | SpellDescription$ If a card would be put into enchanted player's graveyard from anywhere, instead that card is revealed and put on the bottom of that player's library.
SVar:TrigChangeZone:AB$ ChangeZone | Cost$ 0 | Origin$ Any | Destination$ Library | LibraryPosition$ -1
SVar:Rarity:Rare
SVar:Picture:http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/general/wheel_of_sun_and_moon.jpg
End

This doesn't work at the moment.

[friarsol]

No, Wheel of Sun and Moon requires a replacement ability. The one Yawgmoth's Will uses is already keyworded so we were able to just reuse it.

[PsiOptics]

Just out of curiosity I was wondering what cards in my list are hard to program and what are not. Trying to learn a little about programming but still a lot I need to learn

[Hellfish]

Just out of curiosity I was wondering what cards in my list are hard to program and what are not. Trying to learn a little about programming but still a lot I need to learn

I'll try to limit myself to those where I might actually know what I'm talking about.
Also, many of these are inevitably complex (or we'd have implemented them already ) Sorry if it devolves into inside jargon from time to time, just ask!

| Open

Energy Chamber - This one should be doable in script now.
Rings of Brighthearth - Might be scriptable if AbilityCasts triggers can distinguish mana abilities from nonmana abilities.
Power Conduit - We'd need a "Remove a counter from a permanent you control" cost which we don't have.
...
Ghave, Guru of Spores - Looks scriptable. I'll be surprised if we don't already have this.
Eight-and-a-Half-Tails - We can't currently change the color of spells.
(all of the Myojins) - We can't currently know that a card was cast from the hand, only that it was moved from there.Might be a good project? (Yes, I know we have Emrakul and friends but they are hardcoded and we'd rather see a way to do it in script)
...
Ghostway - Might be scriptable.
...
Scapeshift - "any number of..." things are tricky with our current structure.
...
Consume Spirit - Mana tagging is not possible at the moment.
Soul Burn - Mana tagging AND complex interaction with mana used to pay.
...
Skaab Ruinator - We have this.
Necrotic Ooze - Copying spells and abilities from one card to another is not currently possible.
Dread Cacodemon - See the Myojins.
Entomber Exarch - Doable in script.
Vexing Shusher - Giving attributes to spells is not something we can do well, if at all.
Auratouched Mage - Moving auras around is the domain of AbilityFactory_Attach, which is still in the development stages.
Necravolver - "and/or" costs are a problem.
Rakavolver - See above.
Nomad Mythmaker - See Auratouched Mage.
Skarrgan Firebird - I think this could be implementable if we had a Count$ mode that returned damage dealt to opponent(s) this turn. Good starting project?
...
Blinding Angel - Phase skipping can't be done currently.
Stonehorn Dignitary - See above.
Quicksilver Dragon - Changing targets of spells is one of the more complex cans of worms we don't support yet.
Hellkite Charger - Additional phases are as difficult as skipping phases.
...
Paradox Haze - See above.
Promise of Bunrei - Seems scriptable.
Solitary Confinement - While we support unless costs, we only support manacosts for them.