More card requests

[Rob Cashwalker]

I've added in Untap:{cost} as a keyword... so I implemented Morphling and Ethersworn Adjudicator, and Blizzard Elemental + Horseshoe Crab work through the keyword now
There might be a few more cards that can be added with this keyword.

BOO and YA!

[DennisBergkamp]

Teneb, the Harvester (actually, I think the entire Invasion / Planar Chaos Dragon Legend cycle is pretty amazing flavor-wise... but I can see how it'd get tedious for coding, or how cards like Intet, the Dreamer can be a headache)

I've implemented Treva and Oros (also Rootwater Thief), I think. I was mostly experimenting to see if they could be done... They work, but I realized only one will trigger if multiple of those attack at the same time. So I kind of gave up

[Vecc]

I've implemented Treva and Oros (also Rootwater Thief), I think. I was mostly experimenting to see if they could be done... They work, but I realized only one will trigger if multiple of those attack at the same time. So I kind of gave up

Ah yes, I've been toying with both of them for a while now. That's a shame, I wish I knew more (read: something) about Java so I could help with stuff like that. I even went as far as downloading a DevKit once, but life got busy and it fell behind in the to-do list.

But all in all, I don't think that 'bug' would be an issue too often. The dragons are legendary after all, and if you've got one more than one of the cycle out and dealing combat damage to trigger the ability, you're in for 12 damage anyway, so it shouldn't matter. (of course, I understand that from a coding point of view it's annoying and would be nice if it worked properly, but thinking gameplay it's not a huge issue)

[DennisBergkamp]

You're probably right, it's not too big of an issue... I might even code a few more

[Vecc]

You're too nice, Dennis.

So, I was toying with cards.txt today and I figured Mother of Runes was actually pretty easy to fully implement (adding cards and images to MTGForge through the .txt files is incredibly intuitive). Here's what I got:

Mother of Runes
W
Creature Human Cleric
no text
1/1
TgtKPump T:Protection from black
TgtKPump T:Protection from blue
TgtKPump T:Protection from green
TgtKPump T:Protection from red
TgtKPump T:Protection from white

Urza's Legacy Uncommon
http://www.wizards.com/global/images/ma ... _runes.jpg

Since I was already at it, I went ahead and tried to add a very hacky version of Chameleon Colossus, too:

Chameleon Colossus
2 G G
Creature Shapeshifter
no text
4/4
Changeling
Protection from black
PTPump 2 G G:+4/+4
PTPump 4 G G G G:+12/+12
PTPump 6 G G G G G G:+28/+28

Morningtide Rare
http://www.wizards.com/global/images/ma ... lossus.jpg

Very dirty, but it seems functional. And I can barely wait to grab one of these in Quest Mode.

[Rob Cashwalker]

Since I was already at it, I went ahead and tried to add a very hacky version of Chameleon Colossus, too:

Chameleon Colossus
2 G G
Creature Shapeshifter
no text
4/4
Changeling
Protection from black
PTPump 2 G G:+4/+4
PTPump 4 G G G G:+12/+12
PTPump 6 G G G G G G:+28/+28

Morningtide Rare
http://www.wizards.com/global/images/ma ... lossus.jpg

Very dirty, but it seems functional. And I can barely wait to grab one of these in Quest Mode.

Good idea but it won't work. If the Colossus is getting +1/+1 from an Anthem, then it's +5/+5.

It's got me thinking that I could possibly add some interpretation to the pump command such that you could specify this:
PTPump 2 G G:+P/+P or
PTPump 2 G G:+T/+T or
PTPump 2 G G:+P/+T
And the command will take the current power or toughness and use that as the magnitude.

[DennisBergkamp]

Nice one Vecc, yes Mother of Runes should definitely work that way. I'll be sure to add it into the next version...

Making Chameleon Colossus with the KPumps has a few too many flaws though
I'll try and add it (it's easy to code), then afterward we could maybe turn it into a keyword.

[MageKing17]

It's got me thinking that I could possibly add some interpretation to the pump command such that you could specify this:
PTPump 2 G G:+P/+P or
PTPump 2 G G:+T/+T or
PTPump 2 G G:+P/+T
And the command will take the current power or toughness and use that as the magnitude.

Now you're thinking with portals^Wvariables.

[Vecc]

Ahh yes, I knew the Chameleon Colossus attempt wouldn't work even remotely close to how it should. Exalted, Glorious Anthem, Elspeth and other nice pump effects don't go as fun as they could with this version, but it's the closest I could get to it considering that, like Rob pointed out, there are no variables to point to in cards.txt for now and my "coding" know-how is pretty much limited to that in Forge. I guess I'll keep it like that until CC actually comes out - I like the card so much.

Thanks for Mother of Runes in this latest version, by the way! Also, not to break any traditions, here's another small suggestion: How feasible is Pestermite right now? Nice with Scion of Oona, silly with Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker.

[DennisBergkamp]

Vecc,

I'll put Chameleon Colossus into the next version (I promise!). Pestermite should definitely be possible too.

[Mr.Chaos]

I 'd like Mob Justice please!

To use as a finisher in my kiki-doll deck.
Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker targets Siege-Gang Commander, makes heaps of tokens then you give 'em Mob Justice!

Actually... splashing red just for Mob Justice into my saproling deck would be... No! Too cruel.

[zerker2000]

Hmm... I wonder, how hard would it be to implement untap abilities,e.g. Gilder Bairn?
(+ Cephalid Retainer + Planeswalker )

EDIT: Oops Retainer isn't implemented, could I ask for that too?

[purklefluff]

heyhey.

i'm running mac, so i've discovered my options for playtesting decks are severely limited.

i spent ages getting nate's deckbuilder to work, only to find that what i really wanted was a way to test my decks out out (a-la magic workstation).

so i spent a few hours trawling the net, eventually downloaded Firemox, (which was ultimately disappointing because it had a limited choice of cards, and none of the ones i wanted to use in my decks)

so i came and had a look at MTG Forge. initially i thought "meh, it's still got limited cards" but then it occurred to me that MTG Forge has a much more active developer-base and people are more willing to add cards quickly and effectively. this is good!

so, i'm going to download MTG Forge, but in the meantime, here's a list of cards i was considering putting in my deck. the list is long because i haven't had a chance to test it yet, and i'm not sure which cards would work the best together.

i realise that some of these will already be implemented.... but is there a chance i could have the remaining cards implemented as well? it's getting frustrating having my playtesting options so severely hampered just because i'm running mac.


the list:

Dakmor Salvage
Mindleech Mass
Ink-Eyes, Servant of Oni
Nemesis of Reason
Circu, Dimir Lobotomist
Dreamborn Muse
Avenging Druid
Azusa, Lost but Seeking
Narcomoeba
Beacon of Unrest
Telemin Performance
Mind Funeral
Windfall
Rampant Growth
Demonic Tutor
Prosperity
Tolarian Winds
Mental Note
Forbidden Crypt
Memory Erosion
Lich's Mirror
Mesmeric Orb
Lotus Petal

and finally:

Elvish Visionary
Living Death
Traumatize
Glimpse the Unthinkable

thanks guys =).

[GandoTheBard]

Dont even mention Living death without Corpse Dance, Survival of the Fittest and Oath of Ghouls. Oh and Recurring Nightmare and Coffin Queen.

[DennisBergkamp]

Hmm... I wonder, how hard would it be to implement untap abilities,e.g. Gilder Bairn?

I made Patrol Signaler and Order of Whiteclay, so yes other untap cards should be possible... I just haven't turned them into keywords yet. I have thought about implementing Gilder Bairn, by the way.

so i came and had a look at MTG Forge. initially i thought "meh, it's still got limited cards" but then it occurred to me that MTG Forge has a much more active developer-base and people are more willing to add cards quickly and effectively. this is good!

so, i'm going to download MTG Forge, but in the meantime, here's a list of cards i was considering putting in my deck. the list is long because i haven't had a chance to test it yet, and i'm not sure which cards would work the best together.

i realise that some of these will already be implemented.... but is there a chance i could have the remaining cards implemented as well? it's getting frustrating having my playtesting options so severely hampered just because i'm running mac.

Most of these cards are possible (I won't be able to add all of them though). I'm not sure how suitable MTGForge would be as a play-testing tool for the serious player, however. There's still quite a few bugs and the AI isn't exactly the sharpest tool in the shed

Also, (looking at cards you requested like Mesmeric Orb, Traumatize, Glimpse the Unthinkable, ...) milling a deck in MTGForge isn't seen as a win or loss condition yet, the game will just keep on going.

Currently, cards with X in their casting cost are impossible, the dredge mechanic hasn't been implemented yet, and a few of those cards are pretty tricky (not sure if I can do them).