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Posted: 17 Aug 2013, 18:48While the token IS technically in your hand at that point, you shouldn't be able to discard it because Dinrova Horror (and everything else) says that you have to discard a CARD.cc-drake wrote:When AI uses Dinrova Horror to return my creature token to my hand, I'm able to discard the token before it vanishes. It this right? BTW AI doesn't cast Recoil when the only nonland permanent I control is that token.
Posted: 17 Aug 2013, 19:02Posted: 17 Aug 2013, 19:33Yeah, this was getting on my nerves too so I did something about it. Expect this fix in 1.4.7.Xitax wrote:In the Declare Attackers phase, now with the banding instructions in the window the buttons are being pushed partially off the screen. This is slightly annoying for my not-huge laptop screen. Request changed to a "help" popup dialog box button or something that doesn't use much space.
Posted: 17 Aug 2013, 21:11The deck has 60 cards: 56 permanents and 4 Warp World.friarsol wrote:Are you suggesting it shouldn't do that, or should do that? Tokens are permanents.correioalternativo wrote:'Warp World shuffles tokens into library.
Posted: 17 Aug 2013, 21:12It probably shouldn't do that. When tokens leave the battlefield, they are considered to have simply disappeared, if I'm not mistaken.friarsol wrote:Are you suggesting it shouldn't do that, or should do that? Tokens are permanents.correioalternativo wrote:'Warp World shuffles tokens into library.
Posted: 17 Aug 2013, 22:0210/1/2009: Tokens are permanents but not cards. They'll count toward the number of permanents shuffled into your library, so you'll get a card back for each token you owned. But the tokens themselves should be ignored while you're revealing *cards* from your library. In practice, you shouldn't actually shuffle them into your library since they'll cease to exist as soon as Warp World finishes resolving. Note that a token's owner is the player under whose control it first entered the battlefield; this is a change from previous rules.timmermac wrote:It probably shouldn't do that. When tokens leave the battlefield, they are considered to have simply disappeared, if I'm not mistaken.
Posted: 17 Aug 2013, 22:08Should we use arrow buttons instead of a scrollbar for this, like on the home screen? I think it would look better and probably allow more of the message to be visible without scrolling since there'd be less wrapping.spr wrote:Yeah, this was getting on my nerves too so I did something about it. Expect this fix in 1.4.7.Xitax wrote:In the Declare Attackers phase, now with the banding instructions in the window the buttons are being pushed partially off the screen. This is slightly annoying for my not-huge laptop screen. Request changed to a "help" popup dialog box button or something that doesn't use much space.
Cheers,
Steve
Posted: 17 Aug 2013, 23:20... you shouldn't actually shuffle them into your library...friarsol wrote:10/1/2009: Tokens are permanents but not cards. They'll count toward the number of permanents shuffled into your library, so you'll get a card back for each token you owned. But the tokens themselves should be ignored while you're revealing *cards* from your library. In practice, you shouldn't actually shuffle them into your library since they'll cease to exist as soon as Warp World finishes resolving. Note that a token's owner is the player under whose control it first entered the battlefield; this is a change from previous rules.timmermac wrote:It probably shouldn't do that. When tokens leave the battlefield, they are considered to have simply disappeared, if I'm not mistaken.
Posted: 18 Aug 2013, 01:40Posted: 18 Aug 2013, 02:58You cut off the important context. "In practice" as in, a real actual, live game of Magic. Forge is not one of those. It is exactly correct that the tokens are in your library during this time, they have yet to cease to exist and should count for the amount of permanents moved. It just shouldn't count as "cards in your library" since tokens are not cards.correioalternativo wrote:... you shouldn't actually shuffle them into your library...
Apparently Forge shuffles them.
Posted: 18 Aug 2013, 06:28Posted: 18 Aug 2013, 11:54SpiderBrigade wrote:Teysa, Orzhov Scion with Darkest Hour, Blasting Station, and any other white creature
Sacrificing the white creature causes Teysa's token ability to trigger since Darkest Hour makes it black. It should be possible to sacrifice the generated token and get another token, ad infinitum, since the token is also black. In Forge this does not work.
cc-drake wrote:When AI uses Dinrova Horror to return my creature token to my hand, I'm able to discard the token before it vanishes. It this right? BTW AI doesn't cast Recoil when the only nonland permanent I control is that token.
cc-drake wrote:- When I attack with Exalted Dragon, I have to pay 0 instead of sacrificing a land.
These are fixed! Thanks SpiderBrigade, cc-drake and Xitax.
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