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Re: Forge Beta Release: 02-20-2017 ver. 1.5.60

PostPosted: 10 Mar 2017, 20:37
by rifforama
Nekoatl wrote:The reason the {C} symbol was introduced is to mark mana costs that can only be paid with colorless mana.
When you take an opponent's card with Gonti, you're supposed to be able to cast it with the mana you've got. From the oracle text - "...you may spend mana as though it were mana of any type to cast it."

Re: Forge Beta Release: 02-20-2017 ver. 1.5.60

PostPosted: 11 Mar 2017, 05:03
by Agetian
CokedUpZombie wrote:So I just updated to this version and every time I open the game it soft crashes. I can click continue but none of my decks load. The error log specifically mentions problems with my Atraxa commander deck. I tried to copy the URL but I am too new to post it apparently as it considers it spammy.

Any suggestions?
Well, there are two options - one would be to remove the deck so that it doesn't cause whatever problem it is causing, the other would be to post the contents of that deck file here so that I or some other dev can check it out and see if we can help ;) Without seeing what's inside the deck file it's hard to help though.

- Agetian

Re: Forge Beta Release: 02-20-2017 ver. 1.5.60

PostPosted: 11 Mar 2017, 05:09
by Agetian
rifforama wrote:
Nekoatl wrote:The reason the {C} symbol was introduced is to mark mana costs that can only be paid with colorless mana.
When you take an opponent's card with Gonti, you're supposed to be able to cast it with the mana you've got. From the oracle text - "...you may spend mana as though it were mana of any type to cast it."
I think for this to work, we need to add MayPlayIgnoreType similar to MayPlayIgnoreColor, or some other flag that would help distinguish "...as though it were mana of any color" from "...as though it were mana of any type". MayPlay requires some updates on top of that, so hopefully when those updates are made, MayPLayIgnoreType can also be properly distinguished in the code. Sadly, this month is too busy for me to look into it, but if someone is available, feel free to take a look into it (please also see the Aluren known issue in CHANGES.txt to understand what other modification to MayPlay is also needed).

- Agetian

Re: Forge Beta Release: 02-20-2017 ver. 1.5.60

PostPosted: 11 Mar 2017, 18:08
by schnautzr
Not a bug, but with the release of Kaladesh, the titles of all previously released cards with the word "AEther" were officially changed to use "Aether" without the AE ligature.

Re: Forge Beta Release: 02-20-2017 ver. 1.5.60

PostPosted: 12 Mar 2017, 08:39
by CokedUpZombie
Agetian wrote:
CokedUpZombie wrote:So I just updated to this version and every time I open the game it soft crashes. I can click continue but none of my decks load. The error log specifically mentions problems with my Atraxa commander deck. I tried to copy the URL but I am too new to post it apparently as it considers it spammy.

Any suggestions?
Well, there are two options - one would be to remove the deck so that it doesn't cause whatever problem it is causing, the other would be to post the contents of that deck file here so that I or some other dev can check it out and see if we can help ;) Without seeing what's inside the deck file it's hard to help though.

- Agetian
This deck worked perfect prior to this update. I was able to post the error log. Were you able to view that? I can still post the deck list if needed though.

Re: Forge Beta Release: 02-20-2017 ver. 1.5.60

PostPosted: 12 Mar 2017, 12:10
by onderzeeboot
Waxmane Baku doesn't tap the targets of its activated ability.

Re: Forge Beta Release: 02-20-2017 ver. 1.5.60

PostPosted: 12 Mar 2017, 13:35
by friarsol
CokedUpZombie wrote:This deck worked perfect prior to this update. I was able to post the error log. Were you able to view that? I can still post the deck list if needed though.
The error doesn't actually say what is wrong. We'd need the decklist to either a) try it locally or b) look to see what might be wrong.

Re: Forge Beta Release: 02-20-2017 ver. 1.5.60

PostPosted: 12 Mar 2017, 14:39
by CokedUpZombie
friarsol wrote:
CokedUpZombie wrote:This deck worked perfect prior to this update. I was able to post the error log. Were you able to view that? I can still post the deck list if needed though.
The error doesn't actually say what is wrong. We'd need the decklist to either a) try it locally or b) look to see what might be wrong.
Okay here is the deck list (no judging! HA)

1 Abzan Falconer
1 Arcane Sanctum
1 Astral Cornucopia
1 Azorius Chancery
1 Bred for the Hunt
1 Cancel
1 Canopy Vista
1 Cathars' Crusade
1 Champion of Lambholt
1 Citadel Siege
1 Command Tower
1 Commander's Sphere
1 Corpsejack Menace
1 Corrupted Conscience
1 Creakwood Liege
1 Crystalline Crawler
1 Cytoplast Manipulator
1 Cytoplast Root-Kin
1 Darksteel Ingot
1 Darkwater Catacombs
1 Deepglow Skate
1 Disdainful Stroke
1 Dreadship Reef
1 Drowned Catacomb
1 Duneblast
1 Enduring Scalelord
1 Evolving Wilds
1 Exotic Orchard
1 Fate Transfer
1 Fathom Mage
1 Fellwar Stone
1 Forest
1 Forest
1 Forest
2 Forest
1 Forgotten Ancient
1 Ghave, Guru of Spores
1 Golgari Rot Farm
1 Golgari Signet
1 Hardened Scales
1 Hero's Downfall
1 Inexorable Tide
1 Inspiring Call
1 Ishai, Ojutai Dragonspeaker
1 Island
1 Island
1 Island
1 Juniper Order Ranger
1 Languish
1 Lumbering Falls
1 Managorger Hydra
1 Master Biomancer
1 Merciless Eviction
1 Mortify
1 Murkfiend Liege
1 Negate
1 Nissa's Renewal
1 Noble Hierarch
1 Oath of Ajani
1 Ob Nixilis Reignited
1 Opal Palace
1 Opulent Palace
1 Orzhov Signet
1 Overgrown Tomb
1 Plains
1 Plains
1 Prairie Stream
1 Primordial Hydra
1 Psychic Barrier
1 Putrefy
1 Redirect
1 Reyhan, Last of the Abzan
1 Royal Assassin
1 Sandsteppe Citadel
1 Scavenging Ooze
1 Seaside Citadel
1 Simic Manipulator
1 Simic Signet
1 Skyship Plunderer
1 Sleep
1 Sol Ring
1 Solidarity of Heroes
1 Sorin, Lord of Innistrad
1 Spitting Image
1 Sungrass Prairie
1 Swamp
1 Swamp
1 Temple of Mystery
1 Terramorphic Expanse
1 Tezzeret's Gambit
1 Turn to Frog
1 Tuskguard Captain
1 Underground River
1 Unmake
1 Venser, the Sojourner
1 Vorel of the Hull Clade
1 Vulturous Zombie
1 Wall of Denial
SB: 1 Atraxa, Praetors' Voice

Re: Forge Beta Release: 02-20-2017 ver. 1.5.60

PostPosted: 12 Mar 2017, 15:08
by friarsol
CokedUpZombie wrote:
friarsol wrote:
CokedUpZombie wrote:This deck worked perfect prior to this update. I was able to post the error log. Were you able to view that? I can still post the deck list if needed though.
The error doesn't actually say what is wrong. We'd need the decklist to either a) try it locally or b) look to see what might be wrong.
Okay here is the deck list (no judging! HA)

1 Abzan Falconer
1 Arcane Sanctum
1 Astral Cornucopia
1 Azorius Chancery
1 Bred for the Hunt
1 Cancel
1 Canopy Vista
1 Cathars' Crusade
1 Champion of Lambholt
1 Citadel Siege
1 Command Tower
1 Commander's Sphere
1 Corpsejack Menace
1 Corrupted Conscience
1 Creakwood Liege
1 Crystalline Crawler
1 Cytoplast Manipulator
1 Cytoplast Root-Kin
1 Darksteel Ingot
1 Darkwater Catacombs
1 Deepglow Skate
1 Disdainful Stroke
1 Dreadship Reef
1 Drowned Catacomb
1 Duneblast
1 Enduring Scalelord
1 Evolving Wilds
1 Exotic Orchard
1 Fate Transfer
1 Fathom Mage
1 Fellwar Stone
1 Forest
1 Forest
1 Forest
2 Forest
1 Forgotten Ancient
1 Ghave, Guru of Spores
1 Golgari Rot Farm
1 Golgari Signet
1 Hardened Scales
1 Hero's Downfall
1 Inexorable Tide
1 Inspiring Call
1 Ishai, Ojutai Dragonspeaker
1 Island
1 Island
1 Island
1 Juniper Order Ranger
1 Languish
1 Lumbering Falls
1 Managorger Hydra
1 Master Biomancer
1 Merciless Eviction
1 Mortify
1 Murkfiend Liege
1 Negate
1 Nissa's Renewal
1 Noble Hierarch
1 Oath of Ajani
1 Ob Nixilis Reignited
1 Opal Palace
1 Opulent Palace
1 Orzhov Signet
1 Overgrown Tomb
1 Plains
1 Plains
1 Prairie Stream
1 Primordial Hydra
1 Psychic Barrier
1 Putrefy
1 Redirect
1 Reyhan, Last of the Abzan
1 Royal Assassin
1 Sandsteppe Citadel
1 Scavenging Ooze
1 Seaside Citadel
1 Simic Manipulator
1 Simic Signet
1 Skyship Plunderer
1 Sleep
1 Sol Ring
1 Solidarity of Heroes
1 Sorin, Lord of Innistrad
1 Spitting Image
1 Sungrass Prairie
1 Swamp
1 Swamp
1 Temple of Mystery
1 Terramorphic Expanse
1 Tezzeret's Gambit
1 Turn to Frog
1 Tuskguard Captain
1 Underground River
1 Unmake
1 Venser, the Sojourner
1 Vorel of the Hull Clade
1 Vulturous Zombie
1 Wall of Denial
SB: 1 Atraxa, Praetors' Voice
Its a commander deck? You can't put the commander in your side board. It won't work with forge. Can you attach the actual .dck file?

Re: Forge Beta Release: 02-20-2017 ver. 1.5.60

PostPosted: 12 Mar 2017, 15:14
by CokedUpZombie
It says I am not aloud to attach a dck file but that is a direct copy of the DCK file opened with notepad. I want to stress that I have changed nothing...this is the same deck that I have used for the last few versions...

Re: Forge Beta Release: 02-20-2017 ver. 1.5.60

PostPosted: 12 Mar 2017, 16:40
by CokedUpZombie
That's weird...here is a copy of the dck file for my other commander deck and its formatted differently...
[metadata]
Name=Oloro, Ageless Ascetic
[Commander]
1 Oloro, Ageless Ascetic|C13
[Main]
1 Aetherflux Reservoir|KLD
1 Ajani's Mantra|DDH
1 Ajani's Pridemate|M15
1 Ajani, Caller of the Pride|M14
1 Angelic Shield|DDI
1 Archangel of Thune|M14
1 Blackcleave Goblin|SOM
1 Blighted Agent|NPH
1 Blind Obedience|GTC
1 Boon Reflection|SHM
1 Cancel|KTK
1 Cathars' Crusade|C14
1 Caves of Koilos|ORI
1 Celestial Ancient|C15
1 Chalice of Life|DKA
1 Choking Fumes|MBS
1 Command Tower|C15
1 Contagious Nim|SOM
1 Corrupted Conscience|MBS
1 Counterlash|DKA
1 Cradle of Vitality|C13
1 Dawnray Archer|ALA
1 Diabolic Tutor|KLD
1 Dismember|MM2
1 Dissolve|THS
1 Doomwake Giant|C15
1 Drowned Catacomb|M13
1 Essence Scatter|M14
1 Evil Twin|ISD
1 Flensermite|MBS
1 Fuel for the Cause|MBS
1 Glorious Anthem|10E
1 Grim Affliction|MM2
8 Island|SOI|1
1 Isolated Chapel|ISD
1 Karlov of the Ghost Council|C15
1 Languish|ORI
1 Mikaeus, the Lunarch|ISD
1 Mirror-Sigil Sergeant|CFX
1 Mother of Runes|EMA
1 Murder|EMN
1 Necropede|SOM
1 Obelisk of Esper|C13
1 Oblivion Ring|MM2
1 Phyresis|MBS
1 Phyrexian Arena|C15
1 Plague Myr|MBS
1 Plague Stinger|SOM
10 Plains|SOI|1
1 Prairie Stream|EXP
1 Priests of Norn|MBS
1 Pristine Talisman|C14
1 Rebuke|DDQ
1 Recumbent Bliss|DDH
1 Reliquary Tower|C15
1 Remove Soul|10E
1 Revoke Existence|BNG
1 Royal Assassin|M12
1 Scoured Barrens|EMA
1 Seal of Cleansing|EMA
1 Sejiri Refuge|C13
1 Serra Ascendant|M11
1 Shimmering Wings|10E
1 Sigiled Paladin|ALA
1 Sol Ring|C15
1 Spread the Sickness|MM2
1 Sublime Archangel|M13
1 Sunken Hollow|EXP
8 Swamp|SOI|1
1 True Conviction|C14
1 Unsummon|M13
1 Utter End|KTK
1 Viral Drake|NPH
1 Wall of Denial|DDI
1 Wall of Reverence|C13
1 Watery Grave|EXP

Re: Forge Beta Release: 02-20-2017 ver. 1.5.60

PostPosted: 12 Mar 2017, 18:17
by tjtillman
Bad bug on Daredevil Dragster:

On CPU's turn, I blocked with Daredevil Dragster, and it got one velocity counter. Then on my next turn, I attacked with some creatures, but NOT the Daredevil Dragster, but at the end of combat, it was sacrificed and I drew two cards.

Re: Forge Beta Release: 02-20-2017 ver. 1.5.60

PostPosted: 12 Mar 2017, 18:47
by tjtillman
This is more of an AI request. Generally, unless a creature card is marked that the AI should play it in the first main phase, the AI will play creatures in the 2nd main phase. However, would there be a way to, if the CPU has a vehicle on the battlefield (that didn't come out that same turn) to prioritize the AI to play creatures in the first main phase?

Re: Forge Beta Release: 02-20-2017 ver. 1.5.60

PostPosted: 12 Mar 2017, 23:38
by Conductor
schnautzr wrote:Not a bug, but with the release of Kaladesh, the titles of all previously released cards with the word "AEther" were officially changed to use "Aether" without the AE ligature.
I guess that might explain why since installing this new release, any time I try to view the AEther Hub card my game crashes.

Re: Forge Beta Release: 02-20-2017 ver. 1.5.60

PostPosted: 12 Mar 2017, 23:59
by schnautzr
Conductor wrote:
schnautzr wrote:Not a bug, but with the release of Kaladesh, the titles of all previously released cards with the word "AEther" were officially changed to use "Aether" without the AE ligature.
I guess that might explain why since installing this new release, any time I try to view the AEther Hub card my game crashes.
Forge's copy doesn't use the ligature. Did you type it with the ligature when you made your decklist?