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If I remember correctly, Ad Nauseam isn't in forge because the AI can't handle it properly right? I'm still very new to programming and AI, but wouldn't it be kind of impossible to get the AI to play this card properly? It's one big gamble. There's already a good many cards in forge that the AI can't play properly, and the addition of this card would really only hurt random or drafting. I think it would be worth it to have it added and deal with the AI not being able to use it, then to not have it at all.

/*That is if it is actually unavailable for that reason. If it's another reason ignore the above lol.*/

No Ad Nauseam isn't in Forge because we can't script looping.

friarsol wrote:No Ad Nauseam isn't in Forge because we can't script looping.

Ah okay, must have had it confused with another card.

Dungeon Geist ????

I believe Ward Sliver isnt in forge. I dont know if you can do it but it definatelly will be a great adittion to sliver´s deck´s.

RevivedPicard wrote:Dungeon Geist ????

Added a while back by Sloth. Next beta will have it.

Is Breakthrough doable? Now that we have Lion's Eye Diamond, Cabal Therapy, and Serum Powder (awesome job on that one by the way) it's the last card needed to forge a tournament caliber dredge deck.

AndyTron wrote:Is Breakthrough doable? Now that we have Lion's Eye Diamond, Cabal Therapy, and Serum Powder (awesome job on that one by the way) it's the last card needed to forge a tournament caliber dredge deck.

The problem with Breakthrough is the part "choose X cards in your hand and DISCARD the rest." The AB Discard allows for the chosen cards to be discarded, but not the other way around right now.

jeffwadsworth wrote:

AndyTron wrote:Is Breakthrough doable? Now that we have Lion's Eye Diamond, Cabal Therapy, and Serum Powder (awesome job on that one by the way) it's the last card needed to forge a tournament caliber dredge deck.

The problem with Breakthrough is the part "choose X cards in your hand and DISCARD the rest." The AB Discard allows for the chosen cards to be discarded, but not the other way around right now.

We might be able to do the math, although I'm sure the text would be weird.

max(CardsInHand - X, 0)

friarsol wrote:

jeffwadsworth wrote:

AndyTron wrote:Is Breakthrough doable? Now that we have Lion's Eye Diamond, Cabal Therapy, and Serum Powder (awesome job on that one by the way) it's the last card needed to forge a tournament caliber dredge deck.

The problem with Breakthrough is the part "choose X cards in your hand and DISCARD the rest." The AB Discard allows for the chosen cards to be discarded, but not the other way around right now.

We might be able to do the math, although I'm sure the text would be weird.

max(CardsInHand - X, 0)

The cards are specifically chosen...how would you handle that part?

jeffwadsworth wrote:The cards are specifically chosen...how would you handle that part?

If you have 7 cards in your hand, and you have to choose to discard 2, is it any different than choosing 5 cards to not-discard, and then discarding the rest?

friarsol wrote:

jeffwadsworth wrote:The cards are specifically chosen...how would you handle that part?

If you have 7 cards in your hand, and you have to choose to discard 2, is it any different than choosing 5 cards to not-discard, and then discarding the rest?

We'll see. Testing this to find out.

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Name:Breakthrough
ManaCost:X U
Types:Sorcery
Text:no text
A:SP$ Draw | Cost$ X U | NumCards$ 4 | SubAbility$ DBDiscard | SpellDescription$ Draw four cards, then choose X cards in your hand and discard the rest from it.
SVar:DBDiscard:DB$ Discard | Defined$ You | Mode$ TgtChoose | NumCards$ Z
SVar:X:Count$xPaid
SVar:Y:Count$InYourHand
SVar:Z:SVar$Y/Minus.X
SVar:Rarity:Uncommon
SVar:Picture:http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/general/breakthrough.jpg
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Edit: It works. Thanks for the clarity. I was looking at it in a literal sense.

.Tree of Redemption
Sisters of Stone Death
Gaze of the Gorgon
Flash Foliage
Patron of the Orochi
Jaddi Lifestrider
Gather Specimens
Epochrasite
AEther Spellbomb

These cards are doable?

Iran wrote:.Tree of Redemption
Sisters of Stone Death
Gaze of the Gorgon
Flash Foliage
Patron of the Orochi
Jaddi Lifestrider
Gather Specimens
Epochrasite
AEther Spellbomb

These cards are doable?

Some of them are doable.

.Dichotomancy
Stomping Slabs