testing results of Magic Album
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testing results of Magic Album
by charmer » 12 Apr 2010, 15:32
Hi.
Firstly, I really like Magic Album. Even now in early development phase it looks better than MWS or Suitcase I've been using. I'm giving it a big thumbs up.
I also wanted to ask - where do you get up-to-date text data for printed texts and Oracle texts for Magic Album? I could use that source too for a search engine I am helping to improve.
Now, I've tested version v.1.0.2 on WinXP and then I noticed new is up and added some points to it before posting. Whether each point is bug report or feature request I leave up to you.
Finally, I've noticed 1.0.5 is up but I haven't had an opportunity to look at it yet. Sorry about that.
Individual issues are in a form of brief bullet points below. I hope that helps.
1.0.4
Startup is a little slow, Album could use a splash screen.
Function to present rendered card and card image in a single window (as in Suitcase).
Open a window with card image window with a double click or Enter.
F5 shortcut did not not work for me.
Tooltips for 'sort by' should contain full text.
Implement (maybe slightly redundant) quantifiers => and <=.
Function to filter X-spells - 'contains X' to fieldset
1.0.2
Port to Linux?
Keyboard shortcuts? (quick find, filter, save deck, cycle between database/inventory/deck, ...)
Rendered card window did not show any card for me
All filters should be visible - imho there's no need to hide some of what I want to filter to tabs
Card type autocomplete - for creatures.
Search history for input fields
Precise card cost search (i.e. includes "WW")
Function to lock/unlock database for edits
Drag and drop between decks, inventories and database
F4 key (remove filter) should revert to default (or Clear to default)
Keys Enter/Esc should work in dialogs as commands to submit/close
Settings for custom filter presets - Ext, T1, promo, expansion only, ...
"Nontraditional" is a kinda weird word, why not "Special" ?
What about localization capabilities? (I can help)
search dialog help? - examples, or tooltips
Sort manager - also add 'last modified' category to show newest cards in inventory for example
Context menu for cards in inventory/database (such as move,delete,copy,edit...)?
Loyalty filter is missing
Hybrid filter is missing
Active column should be highlighted
Support for colorless spells (Ghostfire, mana symbols in card cost might not correspond to card color)
'Phantom Nishoba' is found in WRU filter
Deck statistics function?
What about documentation? (for example I didn't get at once that custom toolbars require restart)
I'd use a better icon set, namely Silk (I can help with custom icons)
sets structure? -> expansions vs special products - timeline or structured view; (duel decks are not sets)
function to clear P/T search subform
I'm not sure if Planechase belongs to Eternal filter
Thanks for the great work
Firstly, I really like Magic Album. Even now in early development phase it looks better than MWS or Suitcase I've been using. I'm giving it a big thumbs up.
I also wanted to ask - where do you get up-to-date text data for printed texts and Oracle texts for Magic Album? I could use that source too for a search engine I am helping to improve.
Now, I've tested version v.1.0.2 on WinXP and then I noticed new is up and added some points to it before posting. Whether each point is bug report or feature request I leave up to you.
Finally, I've noticed 1.0.5 is up but I haven't had an opportunity to look at it yet. Sorry about that.
Individual issues are in a form of brief bullet points below. I hope that helps.
1.0.4
Startup is a little slow, Album could use a splash screen.
Function to present rendered card and card image in a single window (as in Suitcase).
Open a window with card image window with a double click or Enter.
F5 shortcut did not not work for me.
Tooltips for 'sort by' should contain full text.
Implement (maybe slightly redundant) quantifiers => and <=.
Function to filter X-spells - 'contains X' to fieldset
1.0.2
Port to Linux?
Keyboard shortcuts? (quick find, filter, save deck, cycle between database/inventory/deck, ...)
Rendered card window did not show any card for me
All filters should be visible - imho there's no need to hide some of what I want to filter to tabs
Card type autocomplete - for creatures.
Search history for input fields
Precise card cost search (i.e. includes "WW")
Function to lock/unlock database for edits
Drag and drop between decks, inventories and database
F4 key (remove filter) should revert to default (or Clear to default)
Keys Enter/Esc should work in dialogs as commands to submit/close
Settings for custom filter presets - Ext, T1, promo, expansion only, ...
"Nontraditional" is a kinda weird word, why not "Special" ?
What about localization capabilities? (I can help)
search dialog help? - examples, or tooltips
Sort manager - also add 'last modified' category to show newest cards in inventory for example
Context menu for cards in inventory/database (such as move,delete,copy,edit...)?
Loyalty filter is missing
Hybrid filter is missing
Active column should be highlighted
Support for colorless spells (Ghostfire, mana symbols in card cost might not correspond to card color)
'Phantom Nishoba' is found in WRU filter
Deck statistics function?
What about documentation? (for example I didn't get at once that custom toolbars require restart)
I'd use a better icon set, namely Silk (I can help with custom icons)
sets structure? -> expansions vs special products - timeline or structured view; (duel decks are not sets)
function to clear P/T search subform
I'm not sure if Planechase belongs to Eternal filter
Thanks for the great work
Re: testing results of Magic Album
by FrontLineFodder » 12 Apr 2010, 16:33
Hello charmer,
I agree with you regarding superiority to MWS, active development helps (MWS hasnt been developed for years).
There is a Wishlist thread for any development requests, i suggest you put your feature requests there, I for one would second your X in mana cost filter request.
as for greater than or equal to, that would be the equivalent of > N-1 ie. => 3 is the same as > 2.
the F5 bug has been fixed in 1.05.
I agree with you regarding superiority to MWS, active development helps (MWS hasnt been developed for years).
There is a Wishlist thread for any development requests, i suggest you put your feature requests there, I for one would second your X in mana cost filter request.
as for greater than or equal to, that would be the equivalent of > N-1 ie. => 3 is the same as > 2.
the F5 bug has been fixed in 1.05.
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Re: testing results of Magic Album
by Goblin Hero » 12 Apr 2010, 17:19
Several comments:
1. My only data source is gatherer.wizards.com
2. Port to linux is impossible. Use Wine.
3. Support for colorless spells should be ok.
4. Phantom Nishoba will be fixed.
5. Nontraditional keyword is used in official rulings.
6. Loyalty filter = Toughness filter (I'll add help text to filter window)
7. Rendered card doesn't work yet.
8. "Tooltips for 'sort by' should contain full text." Do not understand what you want.
charmer, pls, move the rest of your wishes to the special thread.
1. My only data source is gatherer.wizards.com
2. Port to linux is impossible. Use Wine.
3. Support for colorless spells should be ok.
4. Phantom Nishoba will be fixed.
5. Nontraditional keyword is used in official rulings.
6. Loyalty filter = Toughness filter (I'll add help text to filter window)
7. Rendered card doesn't work yet.
8. "Tooltips for 'sort by' should contain full text." Do not understand what you want.
charmer, pls, move the rest of your wishes to the special thread.
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Re: testing results of Magic Album
by charmer » 12 Apr 2010, 18:04
OK, I'll try to put my FRs elsewhere. But first, do you know Trac? It's really well-arranged, lightweight easy to install Open Source request tracking system for small projects to keep track of bugs, FRs, long-term tickets or milestones. I have a great experience with it and I really think Album deserves to have something like this to provide a good overview of tasks to be done for anyone interested. Here's a demo:
http://trac.edgewall.org/demo-0.12/report
Next question - how do you efficiently gather text data from Gatherer?
And about documentation, localization (I could do it for Czech, English and possibly Slovak and icons - are you interested in these enough to provide support for potential helpers or do these things just have low priority for you right now?
Thanks again
http://trac.edgewall.org/demo-0.12/report
Next question - how do you efficiently gather text data from Gatherer?
And about documentation, localization (I could do it for Czech, English and possibly Slovak and icons - are you interested in these enough to provide support for potential helpers or do these things just have low priority for you right now?
Thanks again
Re: testing results of Magic Album
by Goblin Hero » 12 Apr 2010, 18:46
I'm not sure I need it now.charmer wrote:easy to install Open Source request tracking system
for small projects to keep track of bugs
Self-made semi-automatic tools which download hundreds of pages and parse them. It's not perfect and manual work is still required for basic lands, split cards and other unusual stuff. For latest rulings it is possible to download one big (>20MB) web page with all the cards.charmer wrote:Next question - how do you efficiently gather text data from Gatherer?
Documentation - you're welcome. I hate writing documentation.charmer wrote:And about documentation, localization (I could do it for Czech, English and possibly Slovak and icons
Localisation - i have to add multilanguage support to MA first.
Icons? It is debatable. You suggests this http://www.famfamfam.com/lab/icons/silk/previews/index_abc.png if I'm not mistaken.
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Re: testing results of Magic Album
by charmer » 12 Apr 2010, 20:52
The thing is that if you only let people to write random thoughts to a special thread - one post per person - it's very easy to lose track when an old post gets edited in some way, when a list is long and contains invalid requests etc. One issue - one ticket approach with proper flags if it is high priority feature request, regular bug or a different task helps a lot, I'm glad to report. Maybe when MA becomes more popular you could give it a chance...I'm not sure I need it now.
Fortunately, this is not a commercial project (I hope) so full-fledged docs is not so necessary. But I would structure and compile useful things to do while searching, configuring and maintaining data in MA as I will be using latest versions of it.Documentation - you're welcome. I hate writing documentation.
Yes and it's not only this lot but there are additional two companion sets and I've made another and can make more custom icons. I've been using this set a lot and I know it's one of the best and most popular out there. I thought the current icons were a little too contrasted and sometimes a bit off (for example the funnel icon). Anyway I'd get to it if you were interested, otherwise no big deal.Icons? It is debatable. You suggests this http://www.famfamfam.com/lab/icons/silk ... ex_abc.png if I'm not mistaken.
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