Several rules/combo questions
Posted: 01 Apr 2012, 23:49
Maybe I'm just retarded and couldn't find the forum where these types of questions should be asked, but since this is the "miscellaneous crap" subforum, I figured I should be safe.
Anyway, I've been playing around with some ideas and I have a few questions that weren't addressed on the Gatherer. If anyone has definitive answers, that'd be awesome. I may come back in and throw extra questions down as well, because I'm sifting through a lot of concepts to work with.
So my first question, and I'm pretty sure the answer is 'no': Does Animar, Soul of Elements put a +1/+1 counter on himself? I'm thinking that his ability triggers and resolves before he actually ETBs, meaning he can't receive a +1/+1 counter, but if someone could back me up (or refute me) on that, I'd be happier.
Second: I have Aluren and Confusion in the Ranks in play, and Cavern Harpy in my hand. Could I cast Cavern Harpy for free using Aluren, exchange Cavern Harpy for an opponent's creature using the effect of Confusion in the Ranks, bounce Cavern Harpy using its own first ability, then rinse and repeat to steal all my opponent's creatures? This one is kind of convoluted...
Third: I have two Knight Exemplar s on the battlefield, and my opponent has no Knights. I cast Knight of the Mists. Since paying its mana cost is optional and there are no Knights that can be destroyed, is his ETB ability essentially negated? This one seems kind of obvious to me, but I wanted to make sure.
Fourth: Lethal Vapors is on the battlefield. I cast Cavern Harpy. Is Cavern Harpy destroyed, or can I use its own ability to bounce itself before Lethal Vapors' effect resolves? Since both of these effects are ETB effects, I'm not sure how to determine which one gets put on the stack first.
Anyway, I've been playing around with some ideas and I have a few questions that weren't addressed on the Gatherer. If anyone has definitive answers, that'd be awesome. I may come back in and throw extra questions down as well, because I'm sifting through a lot of concepts to work with.
So my first question, and I'm pretty sure the answer is 'no': Does Animar, Soul of Elements put a +1/+1 counter on himself? I'm thinking that his ability triggers and resolves before he actually ETBs, meaning he can't receive a +1/+1 counter, but if someone could back me up (or refute me) on that, I'd be happier.
Second: I have Aluren and Confusion in the Ranks in play, and Cavern Harpy in my hand. Could I cast Cavern Harpy for free using Aluren, exchange Cavern Harpy for an opponent's creature using the effect of Confusion in the Ranks, bounce Cavern Harpy using its own first ability, then rinse and repeat to steal all my opponent's creatures? This one is kind of convoluted...
Third: I have two Knight Exemplar s on the battlefield, and my opponent has no Knights. I cast Knight of the Mists. Since paying its mana cost is optional and there are no Knights that can be destroyed, is his ETB ability essentially negated? This one seems kind of obvious to me, but I wanted to make sure.
Fourth: Lethal Vapors is on the battlefield. I cast Cavern Harpy. Is Cavern Harpy destroyed, or can I use its own ability to bounce itself before Lethal Vapors' effect resolves? Since both of these effects are ETB effects, I'm not sure how to determine which one gets put on the stack first.