New quest decks

[moomarc]

Thanks for that Chris. The "Repressed Magic.jpg" image has been up since I first uploaded the avatars. At that time someone had just posted an option for it and I thought it worked well (I've attached again for easy reference). Its not a character avatar, but rather a themed one which I think suits the deck well.

[Sloth]

Thanks for that Chris. The "Repressed Magic.jpg" image has been up since I first uploaded the avatars. At that time someone had just posted an option for it and I thought it worked well (I've attached again for easy reference). Its not a character avatar, but rather a themed one which I think suits the deck well.

That pic was used by another quest challenge (and the someone who posted it was Chris himself). I used it again, because i think the challenge avatars don't have to be so memorable .

[Chris H.]

At some point in the past it was decided to have the duel opponent decks represented by an avatar picture of some person.

The special quests were meant to be different and they were given a non-person avatar picture. These could be a place/object/symbol/ etc.

[Chris H.]

I finally found an interesting picture for quest27.dck

The Icon= line in this deck would have to be changed to:

Icon=The Torpor Orb.jpg

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[moomarc]

I finally found an interesting picture for quest27.dck

Uploaded and linked (download links and the deck's icon line.)

[Doublestrike]

Finally made it over to the regular Forge forum and @Roujin had a comment about repeatable quests.

From when I was working on this a while back, I seem to remember all quests were repeatable, so I had removed that line of text ("this quest is not repeatable").

If non-repeat quests are "in the cards" (heh) I'll make this fix in the near future...what's the story on this?

[Sloth]

Finally made it over to the regular Forge forum and @Roujin had a comment about repeatable quests.

From when I was working on this a while back, I seem to remember all quests were repeatable, so I had removed that line of text ("this quest is not repeatable").

If non-repeat quests are "in the cards" (heh) I'll make this fix in the near future...what's the story on this?

Of the 27 challenges we have, about 10 have the line "Repeat=true" the others have "Repeat=false". I thought you enabled the option for quests to not be repeatable back then, Doublestrike.

[Chris H.]

Finally made it over to the regular Forge forum and @Roujin had a comment about repeatable quests.

From when I was working on this a while back, I seem to remember all quests were repeatable, so I had removed that line of text ("this quest is not repeatable").

If non-repeat quests are "in the cards" (heh) I'll make this fix in the near future...what's the story on this?

Of the 27 challenges we have, about 10 have the line "Repeat=true" the others have "Repeat=false". I thought you enabled the option for quests to not be repeatable back then, Doublestrike.

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When Dennis first added the special quest opponents we only had a few of them, far less than 27.

The plan was to add in additional special quest opponents and to then activate the "Repeat=false" option when we had enough of them available to make it worthwhile.

I'm with Sloth, I think that we should enable this option now.

[Sloth]

Here are two missing avatar pics:

[Doublestrike]

I thought you enabled the option for quests to not be repeatable back then, Doublestrike.

My recollection seems to be that they weren't repeatable at the time, so I left them that way. Can't remember, but doesn't matter, since...

I'm with Sloth, I think that we should enable this option now.

*passes hand over code*

...it shall be done.

[moomarc]

Here are two missing avatar pics:

Thanks. I've replaced Edna with this new one and added Mortivore. (I see you already did the links list, thanks)

[abyssaldesignatorify]

I made some modern decks for my quest AI to use, however I am not sure what cards it can/can't properly run or even buggy. I know the AI is horrible using "pay 2 life" lands such as Breeding Pool. Suggestions are welcome. Thanks.

BR Liliana | Open

[metadata]
Name=BR Liliana
[main]
2 Abyssal Nocturnus|GPT
1 Big Game Hunter|PLC
4 Blackcleave Cliffs|SOM
3 Blightning|ALA
1 Blood Crypt|DIS
4 Dragonskull Summit|M10
1 Graven Cairns|FUT
1 Lightning Bolt|M11
1 Liliana of the Veil|ISD
4 Liliana's Caress|M11
4 Liliana's Specter|M11
1 Mindstab|TSP
1 Needle Specter|EVE
1 Okiba-Gang Shinobi|BOK
4 Oona's Blackguard|MOR
4 Oona's Prowler|LRW
2 Quest for the Nihil Stone|WWK
4 Ravenous Rats|10E
1 Sangromancer|MBS
2 Sulfurous Springs|10E
10 Swamp|10E
4 Terminate|ARB
[sideboard]

BR Sorin | Open

[metadata]
Name=BR Sorin
[main]
1 Anowon, the Ruin Sage|WWK
4 Blackcleave Cliffs|SOM
1 Blightning|ALA
1 Blood Crypt|DIS
1 Blood Seeker|ZEN
1 Bloodline Keeper|ISD
2 Child of Night|M10
4 Dragonskull Summit|M10
1 Drana, Kalastria Bloodchief|ROE
4 Falkenrath Aristocrat|DKA
1 Feast of Blood|ZEN
1 Gatekeeper of Malakir|ZEN
2 Godless Shrine|GPT
4 Isolated Chapel|ISD
1 Kalastria Highborn|WWK
1 Markov Patrician|ISD
1 Mortify|GPT
1 Olivia Voldaren|ISD
1 Quag Vampires|WWK
4 Rakish Heir|ISD
1 Ruthless Cullblade|WWK
1 Sangromancer|MBS
1 Sorin, Lord of Innistrad|DKA
4 Stromkirk Captain|DKA
8 Swamp|ISD
4 Terminate|ARB
3 Unmake|EVE
1 Vampire Nocturnus|M10
[sideboard]

R Goblin | Open

[metadata]
Name=R Goblin
[main]
4 Auntie's Hovel|LRW
1 Bonfire of the Damned|AVR
4 Dragonskull Summit|M10
1 Ember Hauler|M11
4 Goblin Chieftain|M10
4 Goblin Guide|ZEN
3 Goblin King|10E
3 Goblin Wardriver|MBS
1 Knucklebone Witch|LRW
4 Lightning Bolt|M11
1 Lightning Crafter|MOR
4 Mad Auntie|LRW
13 Mountain|AVR
1 Murderous Redcap|SHM
1 Quest for the Goblin Lord|WWK
1 Siege-Gang Commander|M10
2 Spikeshot Elder|SOM
3 Terminate|ARB
1 Tuktuk the Explorer|ROE
3 Warren Instigator|ZEN
1 Wort, Boggart Auntie|LRW
[sideboard]

WRG Avacyn | Open

[metadata]
Name=WRG Avacyn
[main]
1 Avacyn, Angel of Hope|AVR
1 Baneslayer Angel|M10
4 Clifftop Retreat|ISD
1 Darksteel Ingot|COM
1 Gisela, Blade of Goldnight|AVR
1 Herald of War|AVR
1 Linvala, Keeper of Silence|ROE
9 Plains|AVR
1 Quicksilver Amulet|M12
1 Rebuff the Wicked|PLC
1 Scuttlemutt|SHM
1 Sigarda, Host of Herons|AVR
1 Sol Ring|COM
4 Sunpetal Grove|M10
1 Swiftfoot Boots|M12
4 Unmake|EVE
4 Wall of Omens|COM
1 Wall of Reverence|CFX
2 Windborn Muse|10E
[sideboard]

[Chris H.]

Two decks contain cards which the AI can not use effectively and you should consider replacing them. These decks are the BR Liliana and the WRG Avacyn decks.

The constructed mode deck editor has an AI column and any cards that contain the label "AI" should be avoided.

[Sloth]

Your decks look good, abyssaldesignatorify. Some notes:

I know the AI is horrible using "pay 2 life" lands such as Breeding Pool.

Yes Shocklands shouldn't be used in AI decks. Painlands can also be suboptimal (but genrally ok). The Graven Cairns cycle can't be used at all.

BR Liliana | Open

[metadata]
Name=BR Liliana
[main]
2 Abyssal Nocturnus|GPT
1 Big Game Hunter|PLC
4 Blackcleave Cliffs|SOM
3 Blightning|ALA
1 Blood Crypt|DIS
4 Dragonskull Summit|M10
1 Graven Cairns|FUT
1 Lightning Bolt|M11
1 Liliana of the Veil|ISD
4 Liliana's Caress|M11
4 Liliana's Specter|M11
1 Mindstab|TSP
1 Needle Specter|EVE
1 Okiba-Gang Shinobi|BOK
4 Oona's Blackguard|MOR
4 Oona's Prowler|LRW
2 Quest for the Nihil Stone|WWK
4 Ravenous Rats|10E
1 Sangromancer|MBS
2 Sulfurous Springs|10E
10 Swamp|10E
4 Terminate|ARB
[sideboard]

We already have a dedicated Liliana's Caress deck in Saruman 2/3 and James T Kirk 3. We have a specter deck
in The Spectre 3.

BR Sorin | Open

[metadata]
Name=BR Sorin
[main]
1 Anowon, the Ruin Sage|WWK
4 Blackcleave Cliffs|SOM
1 Blightning|ALA
1 Blood Crypt|DIS
1 Blood Seeker|ZEN
1 Bloodline Keeper|ISD
2 Child of Night|M10
4 Dragonskull Summit|M10
1 Drana, Kalastria Bloodchief|ROE
4 Falkenrath Aristocrat|DKA
1 Feast of Blood|ZEN
1 Gatekeeper of Malakir|ZEN
2 Godless Shrine|GPT
4 Isolated Chapel|ISD
1 Kalastria Highborn|WWK
1 Markov Patrician|ISD
1 Mortify|GPT
1 Olivia Voldaren|ISD
1 Quag Vampires|WWK
4 Rakish Heir|ISD
1 Ruthless Cullblade|WWK
1 Sangromancer|MBS
1 Sorin, Lord of Innistrad|DKA
4 Stromkirk Captain|DKA
8 Swamp|ISD
4 Terminate|ARB
3 Unmake|EVE
1 Vampire Nocturnus|M10
[sideboard]

We currently only have a mono black vampire deck in Bela Lugosi 3. A BR or WBR vampire deck is wanted, but should try to cover the whole red vampire tribe. Suggestions:
- Drop Vampire Nocturnus and add more mono red vampires for mono black ones.
- The AI is not so good with Falkenrath Aristocrat (drop to 1 or 0 copies).

...more comments later.

[Sloth]

R Goblin | Open

[metadata]
Name=R Goblin
[main]
4 Auntie's Hovel|LRW
1 Bonfire of the Damned|AVR
4 Dragonskull Summit|M10
1 Ember Hauler|M11
4 Goblin Chieftain|M10
4 Goblin Guide|ZEN
3 Goblin King|10E
3 Goblin Wardriver|MBS
1 Knucklebone Witch|LRW
4 Lightning Bolt|M11
1 Lightning Crafter|MOR
4 Mad Auntie|LRW
13 Mountain|AVR
1 Murderous Redcap|SHM
1 Quest for the Goblin Lord|WWK
1 Siege-Gang Commander|M10
2 Spikeshot Elder|SOM
3 Terminate|ARB
1 Tuktuk the Explorer|ROE
3 Warren Instigator|ZEN
1 Wort, Boggart Auntie|LRW
[sideboard]

We have a BR Goblin deck in C3PO.

WRG Avacyn | Open

[metadata]
Name=WRG Avacyn
[main]
1 Avacyn, Angel of Hope|AVR
1 Baneslayer Angel|M10
4 Clifftop Retreat|ISD
1 Darksteel Ingot|COM
1 Gisela, Blade of Goldnight|AVR
1 Herald of War|AVR
1 Linvala, Keeper of Silence|ROE
9 Plains|AVR
1 Quicksilver Amulet|M12
1 Rebuff the Wicked|PLC
1 Scuttlemutt|SHM
1 Sigarda, Host of Herons|AVR
1 Sol Ring|COM
4 Sunpetal Grove|M10
1 Swiftfoot Boots|M12
4 Unmake|EVE
4 Wall of Omens|COM
1 Wall of Reverence|CFX
2 Windborn Muse|10E
[sideboard]

We don't have an angel deck, mainly because no tribal cards were released before AVR. I guess it's a tough nut to build. Mana curve and all. If you want to try, i would like to see more tribal cards included (Bladed Bracers, Defy Death, Herald of War, Seraph Sanctuary) and maybe Adaptive Automaton to really enforce the tribal theme, otherwise it would feel like a bomb lottery (Baneslayer Angel, Gisela, Blade of Goldnight or Sigarda, Host of Herons) with some random cards around.

Testing is needed