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Re: New quest decks

Postby moomarc » 26 Mar 2013, 08:29

myk wrote:
  • ravnica
    • Iseria.jpg
This one is already up. It's just that the deck should be looking for Isperia.jpg

As for the rest, I'll try source the images and upload within the next few days. Unfortunately I have to squash some work first. I'll also upload those booster packs when I can, but my internet is throttled to a crawl because the main cable used by my ISP has been damaged.
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Re: New quest decks

Postby myk » 26 Mar 2013, 20:04

moomarc wrote:
myk wrote:
  • ravnica
    • Iseria.jpg
This one is already up. It's just that the deck should be looking for Isperia.jpg
fixed in r20606
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Re: New quest decks

Postby Sloth » 03 Apr 2013, 06:56

Nordos wrote:I personally disliked, for some reason, the tribal cards which needs to tap a cleric. There is only one exception: The Ancestor's Prophet.
I thought about that the combination of Rotlung Animator, Starlit Sanctum, Skirsdag High Priest, Order of Whiteclay and any cleric as sacrifice could be quite powerful (he sacs a cleric, gets a 2/2 token, gets a 5/5 flying token, tapped Order of Whiteclay in the process and uses it's ability to untap it and bring his creature back to life).
Since the whole deck has nearly nothing else but clerics, Doubtless One is a very powerful card. When I played with another 'hard' opponent deck against him, he was able to quickly getting past any point of return. At the end he aquired about 385 life, having 22/22 Doubtless One and such thing. Dealing damage against him or his clerics was impossible (they had kind of absorb 4 thanks to the passive abilities, and he could prevent 44 damage against a player...)
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Code: Select all
3 Ancestor's Prophet
3 Battletide Alchemist
2 Cathedral Sanctifier
2 Celestial Gatekeeper
4 Doubtless One
4 Edgewalker
4 Hedron-Field Purists
2 High Priest of Penance
2 Order of Whiteclay
12 Plains
1 Profane Prayers
3 Rotlung Reanimator
2 Skirsdag High Priest
4 Starlit Sanctum
7 Swamp
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
2 Vile Deacon
2 Weathered Wayfarer
IMO it is a hard opponent (especially since it hasn't any moxes/duals yet). Hedron-Field Purists is no doubt a very powerful card...
The AI does use Starlit Sanctum only when it's about to die. I removed them, 2 Rotlung Reanimator and one copy of Skirsdag High Priest and Order of Whiteclay each for 2 Moxen, 4 Scrubland, 1 Akroma's Devoted, 1 Battlefield Medic, 1 Syndic of Tithes, 1 Temple Acolyte.

Preacher 3 | Open
1 Akroma's Devoted
3 Ancestor's Prophet
1 Battlefield Medic
3 Battletide Alchemist
2 Cathedral Sanctifier
2 Celestial Gatekeeper
4 Doubtless One
4 Edgewalker
4 Hedron-Field Purists
2 High Priest of Penance
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Pearl
1 Order of Whiteclay
12 Plains
1 Profane Prayers
1 Rotlung Reanimator
4 Scrubland
1 Skirsdag High Priest
5 Swamp
1 Syndic of Tithes
1 Temple Acolyte
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
2 Vile Deacon
2 Weathered Wayfarer
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Re: New quest decks

Postby Chris H. » 03 Apr 2013, 21:54

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Re: New quest decks

Postby Nordos » 04 Apr 2013, 11:30

Hard - very hard opponent, based on equipment.
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4 Ancient Den
1 Argentum Armor
2 Auriok Glaivemaster
3 Auriok Steelshaper
2 Batterskull
4 Darksteel Citadel
3 Dispatch
3 Dispense Justice
2 Leonin Den-Guard
2 Loxodon Warhammer
16 Plains
4 Puresteel Paladin
2 Sunspear Shikari
3 Sword of Feast and Famine
3 Sword of Fire and Ice
3 Sword of Light and Shadow
3 Sword of War and Peace
I intended to make this one as a Mirrodin quest deck, yet I think with some modifications, it should be powerful enough to be a regular one ...
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Re: New quest decks

Postby Nordos » 05 Apr 2013, 07:01

True. Yet I think due to Dispatch Dispense Justice (in combination with the artifact lands) I found it stronger. Adding some Stoneforge Mystics and a mox (maybe even the metalcraft one?) should buff it yet again - That was my impression anyway.
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Re: New quest decks

Postby moomarc » 05 Apr 2013, 09:30

myk wrote:There appear to be a number of icons missing on the server:
  • default world
    • Cave Troll.jpg
    • Cipher.jpg
    • Dead Girl.jpg
    • Denethor.jpg
    • Gollum.jpg
    • Green Nelson Muntz.jpg
    • InuYasha.jpg
    • Jesse James.jpg
    • Jubilee.jpg
    • Kane.jpg
    • Master Splinter.jpg
    • Nagini.jpg
    • Niv Mizzet.jpg
    • Odysseus.jpg
    • Peregrin Took.jpg
    • Riptide.jpg
    • Robin Hood.jpg
    • The Nac Mac Feegle.jpg
    • The Shade.jpg
    • Tombstone.jpg
    • Tweedledum.jpg
  • ravnica
    • Iseria.jpg

I went through this thread and gathered together the few I saw from this list, corrected the spelling of a few of the files, and attached them below. @moomarc: could you add the files to fpics/questAvatars? Once they're up, I'll update res/lists/quest-opponent-icons.txt.
Okay, I've gathered some images for the missing icons. Dead Girl, InuYasha, Jubilee, the Mac Nac Feegle, The Shade and Tombstone have multiple options so let me know your preferences. Majority wins. Then for Tweedledum, I wasn't sure whether the Alice in Wonderland character Tweedledum or the DC Comics character Tweedle Dum. So let me know (same if you'd rather have a two-shot with the twin).
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Re: New quest decks

Postby Sloth » 05 Apr 2013, 10:48

moomarc wrote:Okay, I've gathered some images for the missing icons. Dead Girl, InuYasha, Jubilee, the Mac Nac Feegle, The Shade and Tombstone have multiple options so let me know your preferences. Majority wins. Then for Tweedledum, I wasn't sure whether the Alice in Wonderland character Tweedledum or the DC Comics character Tweedle Dum. So let me know (same if you'd rather have a two-shot with the twin).
Thanks a lot marc! I think you can just pick what you want in the future.

But for now, here are my picks:
- Dead Girl.jpg
- InuYasha.jpg
- Jubilee2.jpg
- The Mac Nac Feegle2.jpg
- The Shade.jpg
- Tombstone.jpg
- Tweedledum.jpg

EDIT: Uploaded and url list updated!
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Re: New quest decks

Postby Sloth » 05 Apr 2013, 11:43

Nordos wrote:True. Yet I think due to Dispatch Dispense Justice (in combination with the artifact lands) I found it stronger. Adding some Stoneforge Mystics and a mox (maybe even the metalcraft one?) should buff it yet again - That was my impression anyway.
Ok, i tried to turn it into a very hard deck. Here is what i came up with:
Wonder Woman 4 | Open
10 Plains|MBS
4 Ancient Den
1 Darksteel Citadel
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Opal
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Sol Ring
4 Kitesail Apprentice
4 Kor Duelist
3 Auriok Steelshaper
4 Stoneforge Mystic
4 Puresteel Paladin
3 Sword of Feast and Famine
3 Sword of Fire and Ice
3 Sword of Light and Shadow
3 Sword of War and Peace
1 Loxodon Warhammer
1 Batterskull
4 Dispatch
1 Swords to Plowshares

I think it will be one of the weakest tier 4 decks, but its powerlevel is clearly above tier 3.
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Re: New quest decks

Postby Chris H. » 05 Apr 2013, 12:10

moomarc wrote:Okay, I've gathered some images for the missing icons. Dead Girl, InuYasha, Jubilee, the Mac Nac Feegle, The Shade and Tombstone have multiple options so let me know your preferences. Majority wins. Then for Tweedledum, I wasn't sure whether the Alice in Wonderland character Tweedledum or the DC Comics character Tweedle Dum. So let me know (same if you'd rather have a two-shot with the twin).
 
Good job Marc! :wink:

It is not very easy at times trying to pick that "perfect" image.
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Re: New quest decks

Postby Sloth » 06 Apr 2013, 14:32

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Re: New quest decks

Postby Chris H. » 06 Apr 2013, 16:59

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Re: New quest decks

Postby Nordos » 15 Apr 2013, 15:34

I thought about a deck which is based around multicolors and Coalition Victory.
Interesting cards (as far as I am concerned) are following:
Bant Sureblade , Bloom Tender , Coalition Victory , Conflux , Deathrite Shaman , Defiler of Souls , Dryad Militant , Esper Stormblade , Figure of Destiny , Grixis Grimblade , Judge's Familiar , Jund Hackblade , Knight of New Alara , Maelstrom Archangel , Maelstrom Nexus , Naya Hushblade , Nip Gwyllion , Oona's Gatewarden , Pillar of the Paruns , Prismatic Omen (very impoertent :P) , Progenitus , Rakdos Cackler , Scuzzback Scrapper , Slippery Bogle , Sliver Legion , Sliver Overlord , Sliver Queen , Spirit of Resistance , Stream Hopper , Transguild Courier.

My main Problem is, that there is a huge gap (nearly no CMC 3/4 cards)... Another thing: It needs a lot of different mana. I would mainly focus on green mana (Prismatic Omen and Bloom Tender should be quite helpful...)
I don't know if that idea is even worth pursuiting it. Coalition Victory needs a lot of time to kick in, and even though the CMC 1-2 Spells can be quite powerful, it may happen, that you miss the needed mana.
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Re: New quest decks

Postby Sloth » 15 Apr 2013, 16:38

Nordos wrote:I thought about a deck which is based around multicolors and Coalition Victory.
I once tried to build a similar deck based on Prismatic Omen and Last Stand. Here is the start of the list:
| Open
1 Bayou
1 Savannah
1 Taiga
4 Tropical Island
1 Tundra
1 Underground Sea
1 Volcanic Island
4 Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth

4 Realmwright
4 Prismatic Omen

4 Last Stand

I think a Coalition Victory deck in the hands of the AI will not really do what it's supposed to. Getting just one of the requirements is hard enough.

We already have a deck that tries to have very colorful creatures:
Jubilee 2 | Open
Name=Jubilee 2
Title=Jubilee
Difficulty=medium
Description=WUBRG multicolored creature Deck with Blessing of the Nephilim and Knight of New Alara
Icon=Jubilee.jpg
Deck Type=constructed
[main]
1 Tropical Island
3 Tundra
3 Savannah
4 Flooded Strand
1 Windswept Heath
2 Vivid Creek
1 Vivid Grove
2 Vivid Meadow
4 Seaside Citadel
2 Reflecting Pool
1 Pillar of the Paruns
4 Blessing of the Nephilim
4 Civic Saber
4 Jaded Response
4 Knight of New Alara
4 Pledge of Loyalty
4 Bant Sureblade
4 Esper Stormblade
1 Fusion Elemental
2 Naya Hushblade
1 Horde of Notions
4 Transguild Courier
[sideboard]

I saw Spirit of Resistance in your list and will try it here.
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