New quest decks
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Re: New quest decks
by Chris H. » 07 May 2011, 12:32
`Sloth wrote:Yup nice deck, nice synergies, thumbs up Chris. If you're willing to tinker around some more I would suggest more Winter Orbs and maybe a single Kismet, but it looks quite tuned already. Level 3 is appropriate I think.
EDIT: Uh and Seedborn Muse can be a monster here.
We have a Winter Orb deck and I was hopping to use the Hokori, Dust Drinker card instead but it is legendary. This is why the deck has two of each.
We also have decks with Kismet and I like the fact that this deck is using cards that we generally do not see in the other quest decks.
Seedborn Muse is a nice idea. We can replace one of the four Sunscape Master cards with your suggestion.
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Re: New quest decks
by Corwin72 » 09 May 2011, 18:32
Not to push the issue but was the Vampire burn deck from a few pages ago killed?
This is a different deck with different cards and different methods of attack that just happens to share a creature type.
Can't we all just get along...
with Vampires.
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This is a different deck with different cards and different methods of attack that just happens to share a creature type.
Can't we all just get along...
with Vampires.
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Re: New quest decks
by Corwin72 » 09 May 2011, 18:36
What about the White Knight decks.
They need a better name...
Maybe they could take over the Wyatt Earp decks.
Those look weak
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Re: New quest decks
by Sloth » 09 May 2011, 19:28
Wyatt Earp is the white one in the series of mono colored decks that care about color. I will try to make the hard one more powerfull.Corwin72 wrote:What about the White Knight decks.
They need a better name...
Maybe they could take over the Wyatt Earp decks.
Those look weak
I think we can have a mono white knight deck in addition to the GW King Arthur.
White Knight 1 is a little bit too strong: most Knight of Meadowgrain and Path to Exile should be replaced with weaker versions.
White Knight 2 is weird: most of the card are at the highest power level (Baneslayer Angel, Serra Avenger, Stoneforge Mystic with swords, Sun Titan, Honor of the Pure) and only very few bad apples (at least in the hand of the AI): Umezawa's Jitte, Scepter of Dominance, Mirror Entity, Glory. Fighting this deck at medium is insane.
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Re: New quest decks
by Corwin72 » 09 May 2011, 19:59
Lets take a look at White Knight 1
I liked Path because it accelerated you to your high drops that would over power the smaller knights.
How about Oust?
Perhaps Iona's Judgment instead?
Or Path of Peace?
Knight of Meadowgrain is good but I thought that without pump it would be outclassed pretty quickly by a Hill Giant.
Skyhunter Prowler as a weak clock?
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I liked Path because it accelerated you to your high drops that would over power the smaller knights.
How about Oust?
Perhaps Iona's Judgment instead?
Or Path of Peace?
Knight of Meadowgrain is good but I thought that without pump it would be outclassed pretty quickly by a Hill Giant.
Skyhunter Prowler as a weak clock?
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Re: New quest decks
by Sloth » 09 May 2011, 20:08
Yes much better. Oust is nice, because if your limited pool contained one bomb you can be sure to replay it. Skyhunter Prowler (while being no terrible card at all) is much easier to overcome.Corwin72 wrote:Lets take a look at White Knight 1
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I liked Path because it accelerated you to your high drops that would over power the smaller knights.
How about Oust?
Perhaps Iona's Judgment instead?
Or Path of Peace?
Knight of Meadowgrain is good but I thought that without pump it would be outclassed pretty quickly by a Hill Giant.
Skyhunter Prowler as a weak clock?
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Re: New quest decks
by Sloth » 09 May 2011, 20:34
The decks look good now. What about the name of the opponent?
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Re: New quest decks
by timmermac » 09 May 2011, 20:51
I'd like to propose the addition of some Arzakon-type decks to quest mode. I already have some decks in mind, as they're decks I've been using myself for the past while. The multiple versions of some do not reflect difficulty, they simply reflect updates to the deck as more cards have been released. I've looked them over in the deck editor, and I'm aware that a lot of the land seems to have AI issues, but I don't think that'll harm the decks too much.
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Deck Type=constructed
Name=BurningElves
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4 Plateau
4 Taiga
4 Temple Garden
4 Coat of Arms
4 Glorious Anthem
4 Skyshroud Elf
4 Stomping Ground
4 Elvish Champion
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Gaea's Anthem
4 Blaze
4 Savannah
4 Priest of Titania
4 Beastmaster Ascension
4 Fireball
4 Llanowar Elves
[sideboard]
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Deck Type=constructed
Name=BurningElvesII
[main]
4 Plateau
4 Taiga
4 Temple Garden
4 Coat of Arms
4 Skyshroud Elf
4 Stomping Ground
4 Elvish Champion
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Gaea's Anthem
4 Blaze
4 Savannah
4 Beastmaster Ascension
4 Fireball
4 Priest of Titania
4 Doubling Season
4 Llanowar Elves
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- Dragons | Open
- DragonsII | Open
- DragonsIII | Open
- DragonsIV | Open
- DragonsV | Open
- GoblinHorde | Open
- MultipleWaysToWin | Open
- Slivers | Open
- SliversII | Open
- SliversIII | Open
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Re: New quest decks
by Corwin72 » 09 May 2011, 20:56
I had always thought of the opponent as the White Knight. Terrible I know. I have been watching A Game of Thrones recently and Joffrey might work. I can't find a good icon that works for him.I think that the deck is annoying and I will want to punch the icon in the face. Seems about right.
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Re: New quest decks
by friarsol » 09 May 2011, 21:00
Just so. (Careful there are spoilers for those who haven't read the wonderful books) http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Joffrey_BaratheonCorwin72 wrote:I have been watching A Game of Thrones recently and Joffrey might work. I can't find a good icon that works for him.I think that the deck is annoying and I will want to punch the icon in the face. Seems about right.
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Re: New quest decks
by Sloth » 10 May 2011, 10:42
We're are aiming at more quality than quantity at the moment, but I think we can have one of those giant decks. If you want, you can tune your Sliver deck and it can become a medium quest opponent.timmermac wrote:I'd like to propose the addition of some Arzakon-type decks to quest mode. I already have some decks in mind, as they're decks I've been using myself for the past while. The multiple versions of some do not reflect difficulty, they simply reflect updates to the deck as more cards have been released. I've looked them over in the deck editor, and I'm aware that a lot of the land seems to have AI issues, but I don't think that'll harm the decks too much.
Cards that have to go because of AI problems are Basal Sliver, the fetchlands and the Urzatron.
Cards that don't fit the theme: the Avatars, Reliquary Tower, Mirror Gallery, Doubling Season, Beastmaster Ascension, Venser's Journal should go too.
Possible cards to add: Better Mana fixing (Fetchlands, Forbidden Orchard, Reflecting Pool, Darksteel Ingot,...)
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Re: New quest decks
by Sloth » 10 May 2011, 11:08
Sorry, but i'm still not sold on this deck, Corwin. The red splash for burn could have been added to any tribal deck (see ElvesWithBurn by timmermac). And the AI won't play this deck more aggressively than Bela Lugosi 3. I'm still in favor of updating Bela Lugosi 3 to feature the full palette of tribal cards (together with a medium version).Corwin72 wrote:Not to push the issue but was the Vampire burn deck from a few pages ago killed?
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This is a different deck with different cards and different methods of attack that just happens to share a creature type.
Can't we all just get along...
with Vampires.
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Re: New quest decks
by friarsol » 10 May 2011, 12:08
What? Fetchlands have to go and Fetchlands should go in? AI should be fine with the Fetchlands.Sloth wrote:Cards that have to go because of AI problems are Basal Sliver, the fetchlands and the Urzatron.
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Possible cards to add: Better Mana fixing (Fetchlands, Forbidden Orchard, Reflecting Pool, Darksteel Ingot,...)
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