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Re: New quest decks

Postby Sloth » 10 May 2011, 12:18

friarsol wrote:
Sloth wrote:Cards that have to go because of AI problems are Basal Sliver, the fetchlands and the Urzatron.
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Possible cards to add: Better Mana fixing (Fetchlands, Forbidden Orchard, Reflecting Pool, Darksteel Ingot,...)
What? Fetchlands have to go and Fetchlands should go in? AI should be fine with the Fetchlands.
Duh, I meant painlands had to go.
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Re: New quest decks

Postby Corwin72 » 10 May 2011, 13:31

Sloth wrote:Sorry, but i'm still not sold on this deck, Corwin. The red splash for burn could have been added to any tribal deck (see ElvesWithBurn by timmermac). And the AI won't play this deck more aggressively than Bela Lugosi 3. I'm still in favor of updating Bela Lugosi 3 to feature the full palette of tribal cards (together with a medium version).
Ok. I will drop it.
Consider this deck dead.
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Re: New quest decks

Postby Corwin72 » 10 May 2011, 15:13

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Re: New quest decks

Postby Corwin72 » 10 May 2011, 15:17

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Re: New quest decks

Postby Corwin72 » 10 May 2011, 15:31

Faeries 3

| Open
[metadata]
Name=Faeries 3
Deck Type=constructed
[main]
4 Scion of Oona|LRW
4 Drowned Catacomb|M11
4 Bitterblossom|MOR
4 Wasp Lancer|SHM
8 Island|MBS
4 Glen Elendra Liege|SHM
4 Secluded Glen|LRW
8 Swamp|MBS
1 Vendilion Clique|MOR
4 Despise|NPH
2 Jace Beleren|M11
4 Violet Pall|MOR
4 Sower of Temptation|LRW
1 Wydwen, the Biting Gale|LRW
4 Faerie Trickery|LRW
[sideboard]
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Re: New quest decks

Postby Sloth » 10 May 2011, 15:57

The Faerie decks are looking good already. Comments:
- A card that i'm unsure if the AI is able to use is Wydwen, the Biting Gale.
- Vendilion Clique is not very strong in the hands of the AI.
- Faeries 1 is too powerful (at least Sower of Temptation has to go).
- Cards that should appear in one deck or another: Spellstutter Sprite, Cloud of Faeries and Sprite Noble.
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Re: New quest decks

Postby Corwin72 » 10 May 2011, 16:05

I made these decks because Spellstutter Sprite was now available.
I am just not sure how the AI will play that card. Has anyone tested with it yet?
I mostly included Wydwen, the Biting Gale as a 3/3 flyer that can be pumped by the lords for 4. Not being able to use the ability is fine.
3/1 flyer for 3 is still good for Vendilion Clique.
Sower is rough for Faeries 1.
How about:
| Open
[metadata]
Name=Faeries
Deck Type=constructed
[main]
2 Briarberry Cohort|SHM
2 Faerie Swarm|SHM
2 Nightshade Schemers|MOR
1 Dire Undercurrents|SHM
1 Biting Tether|SHM
3 Ringskipper|LRW
8 Swamp|MBS
1 Puppeteer Clique|SHM
3 Oona's Gatewarden|SHM
2 Violet Pall|MOR
3 Dewdrop Spy|MOR
2 Zephyr Net|LRW
2 Faerie Trickery|LRW
4 Drowned Catacomb|M11
1 Scion of Oona|LRW
2 Faerie Harbinger|LRW
2 Nightshade Stinger|LRW
1 Wasp Lancer|SHM
8 Island|MBS
4 Secluded Glen|LRW
1 Glen Elendra Liege|SHM
2 Familiar's Ruse|LRW
1 Final-Sting Faerie|MOR
1 Spellstutter Sprite|LRW
1 Wydwen, the Biting Gale|LRW
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Edit: I could not find Sprite Noble in forge
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Re: New quest decks

Postby Sloth » 10 May 2011, 16:34

Corwin72 wrote:I made these decks because Spellstutter Sprite was now available.
I am just not sure how the AI will play that card. Has anyone tested with it yet?
No, but i guess it should be alright.
Corwin72 wrote:I mostly included Wydwen, the Biting Gale as a 3/3 flyer that can be pumped by the lords for 4. Not being able to use the ability is fine.
Maybe the AI will use the ability. All the time :shock:

Corwin72 wrote:3/1 flyer for 3 is still good for Vendilion Clique.
Sower is rough for Faeries 1.
How about:
| Open
[metadata]
Name=Faeries
Deck Type=constructed
[main]
2 Briarberry Cohort|SHM
2 Faerie Swarm|SHM
2 Nightshade Schemers|MOR
1 Dire Undercurrents|SHM
1 Biting Tether|SHM
3 Ringskipper|LRW
8 Swamp|MBS
1 Puppeteer Clique|SHM
3 Oona's Gatewarden|SHM
2 Violet Pall|MOR
3 Dewdrop Spy|MOR
2 Zephyr Net|LRW
2 Faerie Trickery|LRW
4 Drowned Catacomb|M11
1 Scion of Oona|LRW
2 Faerie Harbinger|LRW
2 Nightshade Stinger|LRW
1 Wasp Lancer|SHM
8 Island|MBS
4 Secluded Glen|LRW
1 Glen Elendra Liege|SHM
2 Familiar's Ruse|LRW
1 Final-Sting Faerie|MOR
1 Spellstutter Sprite|LRW
1 Wydwen, the Biting Gale|LRW
[sideboard]

Looks good.

Corwin72 wrote:Edit: I could not find Sprite Noble in forge
I will add it.
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Re: New quest decks

Postby Corwin72 » 10 May 2011, 16:57

I made a test deck with Wydwen, the Biting Gale and the computer did not use the ability at any time.
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Re: New quest decks

Postby Sloth » 10 May 2011, 17:02

Corwin72 wrote:I made a test deck with Wydwen, the Biting Gale and the computer did not use the ability at any time.
Good to hear. In the meantime i've added Sprite Noble and three other faerie cards (of which only one is usable for the AI). Sprite Noble should be medium stuff.
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Re: New quest decks

Postby Corwin72 » 10 May 2011, 17:50

How bad is this deck?
Kithkin 3

| Open
[metadata]
Name=Kithkin 3
Deck Type=constructed
[main]
2 Burrenton Bombardier|MOR
4 Arid Mesa|ZEN
4 Wizened Cenn|LRW
3 Kinsbaile Borderguard|MOR
1 Worship|9ED
3 Knight of Meadowgrain|LRW
3 Ballyrush Banneret|MOR
3 Kithkin Zephyrnaut|MOR
2 Mosquito Guard|MOR
3 Mistmeadow Skulk|SHM
16 Plains|MBS
3 Ballynock Cohort|SHM
3 Cenn's Heir|LRW
3 Honor of the Pure|M11
4 Rustic Clachan|MOR
3 Inspired Charge|M11
[sideboard]
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Re: New quest decks

Postby Corwin72 » 10 May 2011, 18:23

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Re: New quest decks

Postby Sloth » 10 May 2011, 18:34

Corwin72 wrote:Here is another terrible one.
Numot 3

| Open
[metadata]
Name=Numot 3
Deck Type=constructed
[main]
2 Volcanic Island|3ED
6 Mountain|MBS
1 Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind|GPT
3 Razorfin Hunter|APC
1 Brion Stoutarm|LRW
2 Plateau|3ED
1 Noggle Bandit|EVE
3 Cerodon Yearling|ARB
1 Augury Adept|SHM
1 Suffocating Blast|APC
1 Glory of Warfare|ARB
2 Tundra|3ED
1 Scourge of the Nobilis|EVE
1 Crag Puca|EVE
4 Lightning Angel|TSB
1 Noggle Bridgebreaker|EVE
2 Numot, the Devastator|PLC
1 Mindwrack Liege|EVE
1 Electrolyze|GPT
1 Thistledown Liege|SHM
1 Sunhome Enforcer|RAV
1 Absorb|INV
1 Nobilis of War|EVE
6 Island|MBS
1 Balefire Liege|EVE
2 Lightning Helix|RAV
6 Plains|MBS
1 Hearthfire Hobgoblin|EVE
3 Deft Duelist|ALA
1 Magefire Wings|ARB
1 Dominus of Fealty|EVE
[sideboard]
Abraham Lincoln 3 is extremely similar.
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Re: New quest decks

Postby Corwin72 » 10 May 2011, 18:38

So it is. and I just looked at that deck today too. I just saw Numot in my pics folder and could not think of a UWR deck with it.
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Re: New quest decks

Postby Sloth » 10 May 2011, 18:39

Corwin72 wrote:How bad is this deck?
Kithkin 3

| Open
[metadata]
Name=Kithkin 3
Deck Type=constructed
[main]
2 Burrenton Bombardier|MOR
4 Arid Mesa|ZEN
4 Wizened Cenn|LRW
3 Kinsbaile Borderguard|MOR
1 Worship|9ED
3 Knight of Meadowgrain|LRW
3 Ballyrush Banneret|MOR
3 Kithkin Zephyrnaut|MOR
2 Mosquito Guard|MOR
3 Mistmeadow Skulk|SHM
16 Plains|MBS
3 Ballynock Cohort|SHM
3 Cenn's Heir|LRW
3 Honor of the Pure|M11
4 Rustic Clachan|MOR
3 Inspired Charge|M11
[sideboard]
Deck theme is good. I don't think the AI uses Reinforce though.
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