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Sloth wrote:I found another list that should be revamped: Scotty 2 - WBG Pestilence deck with Castle, Penumbra Kavu, Spider and Wurm but no pro black

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3 Penumbra Spider
3 Eternal Witness
2 Swamp
2 Plains
3 Penumbra Wurm
2 Nevinyrral's Disk
3 Penumbra Bobcat
3 Caller of the Claw
2 Castle
3 Darksteel Ingot
2 Harmonize
1 Enlightened Tutor
3 Penumbra Kavu
2 Guiltfeeder
2 Forest
4 Scrubland
4 Bayou
1 Marble Diamond
1 Charcoal Diamond
3 Gravedigger
4 Life Burst
2 Pestilence
4 Savannah
1 Moss Diamond

There are only two copies of Pestilence and the AI will only use it if the next point of damage can kill more of the opponents creatures than yours. Nevinyrral's Disk has the same problems and Enlightened Tutor is mostly a wasted card.

The deck will practicaly never do what its supposed to. Has anyone ideas how to fix it or what to replace it with?

Chris H. wrote:

Sloth wrote:I found another list that should be revamped: Scotty 2 - WBG Pestilence deck with Castle, Penumbra Kavu, Spider and Wurm but no pro black

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3 Penumbra Spider
3 Eternal Witness
2 Swamp
2 Plains
3 Penumbra Wurm
2 Nevinyrral's Disk
3 Penumbra Bobcat
3 Caller of the Claw
2 Castle
3 Darksteel Ingot
2 Harmonize
1 Enlightened Tutor
3 Penumbra Kavu
2 Guiltfeeder
2 Forest
4 Scrubland
4 Bayou
1 Marble Diamond
1 Charcoal Diamond
3 Gravedigger
4 Life Burst
2 Pestilence
4 Savannah
1 Moss Diamond

There are only two copies of Pestilence and the AI will only use it if the next point of damage can kill more of the opponents creatures than yours. Nevinyrral's Disk has the same problems and Enlightened Tutor is mostly a wasted card.

The deck will practicaly never do what its supposed to. Has anyone ideas how to fix it or what to replace it with?

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I thought about it but I can not come up with a Penumbra deck that makes much sense. Combining pro form black creatures and Festering Evil with a few Famine type sorcery type spells might do the trick. We would still need some sort of life gaining to make it balanced.

Sloth wrote:This sounds good. Sphere of Grace can be included if most of the damage sources hit players too.

Scotty 2 | Open

Scotty 2
[general]
constructed
[main]
2 Death Speakers
3 Auriok Champion
2 White Knight
1 Hand of Honor
2 Mirran Crusader
3 Plague Spitter
2 Great Sable Stag
2 Mystic Enforcer
2 Chameleon Colossus
1 Scalebane's Elite
1 Melesse Spirit
1 Oversoul of Dusk
3 Dry Spell
1 Last Laugh
3 Evincar's Justice
1 Sphere of Grace
3 Festering Evil
3 Famine
1 Darksteel Ingot
1 Forest
1 Plains
1 Swamp
4 Bayou
4 Savannah
4 Scrubland
4 Graypelt Refuge
4 Piranha Marsh
[sideboard]

Chris H. wrote:

Sloth wrote:This sounds good. Sphere of Grace can be included if most of the damage sources hit players too.

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Scotty 2 | Open

Scotty 2
[general]
constructed
[main]
2 Death Speakers
3 Auriok Champion
2 White Knight
1 Hand of Honor
2 Mirran Crusader
3 Plague Spitter
2 Great Sable Stag
2 Mystic Enforcer
2 Chameleon Colossus
1 Scalebane's Elite
1 Melesse Spirit
1 Oversoul of Dusk
3 Dry Spell
1 Last Laugh
3 Evincar's Justice
1 Sphere of Grace
3 Festering Evil
3 Famine
1 Darksteel Ingot
1 Forest
1 Plains
1 Swamp
4 Bayou
4 Savannah
4 Scrubland
4 Graypelt Refuge
4 Piranha Marsh
[sideboard]

Sloth wrote:Looks good Chris. Some suggestions:
- Reduce the number of Plague Spitter s. The AI might refrain using Famine or Evincar's Justice to not destroy them. Maybe some copies of Pestilence can be added instead, to be a little closer to the original.
- Mirran Crusader is at the highest power level. Maybe replace one copy with something smilar (Paladin en-Vec?). The deck is already quite powerful I think.

Chris H. wrote:I think that with a few mox and a minor adjustment we might be able to get a tier 2 and a tier 3 deck out of this one.

Scotty 3 | Open

Scotty 3
[general]
constructed
[main]
3 Auriok Champion
3 White Knight
1 Hand of Honor
3 Mirran Crusader
1 Noxious Field
2 Plague Spitter
2 Great Sable Stag
2 Mystic Enforcer
2 Chameleon Colossus
1 Scalebane's Elite
1 Melesse Spirit
1 Oversoul of Dusk
3 Dry Spell
1 Last Laugh
3 Evincar's Justice
1 Sphere of Grace
3 Festering Evil
3 Famine
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Jet
4 Bayou
4 Savannah
4 Scrubland
3 Godless Shrine
3 Graypelt Refuge
3 Piranha Marsh
[sideboard]

Scotty 2 | Open

Scotty 2
[general]
constructed
[main]
4 Death Speakers
2 Auriok Champion
2 Duskrider Falcon
1 Llanowar Knight
1 Valeron Outlander
2 Dry Spell
1 Nightwind Glider
1 Mystic Crusader
1 Paladin en-Vec
1 Stillmoon Cavalier
2 Plague Spitter
1 Last Caress
1 Lifegift
1 Voice of Grace
1 Phantom Centaur
1 Mystic Enforcer
1 Chameleon Colossus
1 Last Laugh
2 Evincar's Justice
1 Nihilistic Glee
1 Scalebane's Elite
1 Melesse Spirit
1 Karmic Guide
2 Festering Evil
2 Famine
1 Darksteel Ingot
3 Forest
4 Plains
4 Swamp
2 Bayou
2 Savannah
2 Scrubland
2 Godless Shrine
1 Arcane Sanctum
2 Graypelt Refuge
2 Piranha Marsh
[sideboard]

Sloth wrote:They look balanced. Good work Chris.

Corwin72 wrote:I really think that the Medium Cave Troll deck is over powered. I recommend removing the Ensnaring Bridge s from the deck.

friarsol wrote:

Corwin72 wrote:I really think that the Medium Cave Troll deck is over powered. I recommend removing the Ensnaring Bridge s from the deck.

That's kind of the whole point of the deck. What's a Troll without a Bridge?

It might be too powerful for level 2 (as I suggested when I posted the decks) we can probably place them both at level 3 with slightly differing names.

King Arthur 3 | Open

King Arthur 3
[general]
constructed
[main]
3 Ezuri's Archers
2 Thornweald Archer
2 Stun Sniper
2 Elvish Hunter
2 Longbow Archer
2 Femeref Archers
2 Jagged-Scar Archers
2 Lys Alana Bowmaster
2 Tajuru Archer
1 Centaur Archer
2 Ranger en-Vec
1 Taurean Mauler
3 Avian Changeling
1 Chameleon Colossus
1 Changeling Berserker
1 War-Spike Changeling
4 Greatbow Doyen
1 Changeling Hero
2 Changeling Titan
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Ruby
4 Plateau
4 Savannah
4 Taiga
2 Temple Garden
3 Naya Panorama
1 Stomping Ground
3 Grasslands
[sideboard]